I do what with butter...?
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »Well I expect to see major results with this then!!
I'll make a post in a few days talking about if it worked for me. I'll entitle it either 'It didn't work' or 'It worked'
So far I'm 125lbs...and have worked hard to get here. So if ya'lls way doesn't work I'm going to be pissed and hold you all accountable for my weight gain.
Thank you ALL for listening to my rant and what maybe seems to be MY possible ignorance.
Please give this more than a few days. It might take 1- 4 weeks to see movement on the scale. I also want to encourage you to read some of the posts from this thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10260517/most-helpful-posts-getting-started-must-reads#latest0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »Well I expect to see major results with this then!!
I'll make a post in a few days talking about if it worked for me. I'll entitle it either 'It didn't work' or 'It worked'
So far I'm 125lbs...and have worked hard to get here. So if ya'lls way doesn't work I'm going to be pissed and hold you all accountable for my weight gain.
Thank you ALL for listening to my rant and what maybe seems to be MY possible ignorance.
I'm concerned that you have unrealistic expectations for how quickly you may see results. As others have pointed out, you may see short term gain followed by the scale starting to go down, but it could take weeks.
What did you put in as your goal, it should be lose 0.5 lbs/week. What calorie target did MFP give you when you entered your new info?
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On MFP I put in a goal of 0.5lbs a week. I currently weight 125.5 and I'm 5'2. My goal is 100lbs (Even though I keep rethinking that) so maybe 110. Depends how I feel/what I look like.
I totally do get that it may take more than a few days to see results. So I'm willing to give it a chance. Though, tbh...I was happy once I started back on the low carb because I was losing 0.5lbs a day(but its only been 4days) So that's 2lbs. From what you're all telling me it's just water weight.
What I think I'm going to do for now is stay on the low carbs til I hit about 120, or 117. I need to give myself a challenge.
Plus, what I forgot to mention was....when I do low carbs. It's not just about the weight, I'm trying to stop my obsessive binge eating. By doing low carbs, I'm teaching myself a lesson that some of you may not understand, or may think could be done another way. But it's about what works personally for me, right? Right.
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Another two cents, if you want to consider them: As well as patience with the weight loss process, OP, I'm going to suggest that you incorporate time during each meal:
You need to be able to appreciate yourself; this in itself will take time and patience; you'll need to learn to take yourself out into the world and be with yourself out there. It took me about 20 years to get where I am. I can still fall back into my old ways, and I'm still learning, but believe me when I say it can be done.
Giving yourself time during portions of the day to be with yourself quietly and positively, I think, may be helpful, and meal times can be such times. Grant yourself permission to choose food you enjoy. Find your 30 minutes, or 60 minutes; eat at peace; taste your food; and appreciate the fact that you have chosen to nourish your body with flavors that make it happy. Maybe keep company over your meal with a book (I have a mini-library on my Kindle app at this point), and absorb new thoughts and new stories at leisure while you make sure you linger over your meal. You may find yourself comfortably both within and outside yourself.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »On MFP I put in a goal of 0.5lbs a week. I currently weight 125.5 and I'm 5'2. My goal is 100lbs (Even though I keep rethinking that) so maybe 110. Depends how I feel/what I look like.
I totally do get that it may take more than a few days to see results. So I'm willing to give it a chance. Though, tbh...I was happy once I started back on the low carb because I was losing 0.5lbs a day(but its only been 4days) So that's 2lbs. From what you're all telling me it's just water weight.
What I think I'm going to do for now is stay on the low carbs til I hit about 120, or 117. I need to give myself a challenge.
Plus, what I forgot to mention was....when I do low carbs. It's not just about the weight, I'm trying to stop my obsessive binge eating. By doing low carbs, I'm teaching myself a lesson that some of you may not understand, or may think could be done another way. But it's about what works personally for me, right? Right.
punishing yourself by doing low carb is in no way healthy and is a great way to develop disordered eating habits.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »On MFP I put in a goal of 0.5lbs a week. I currently weight 125.5 and I'm 5'2. My goal is 100lbs (Even though I keep rethinking that) so maybe 110. Depends how I feel/what I look like.
I totally do get that it may take more than a few days to see results. So I'm willing to give it a chance. Though, tbh...I was happy once I started back on the low carb because I was losing 0.5lbs a day(but its only been 4days) So that's 2lbs. From what you're all telling me it's just water weight.
What I think I'm going to do for now is stay on the low carbs til I hit about 120, or 117. I need to give myself a challenge.
Plus, what I forgot to mention was....when I do low carbs. It's not just about the weight, I'm trying to stop my obsessive binge eating. By doing low carbs, I'm teaching myself a lesson that some of you may not understand, or may think could be done another way. But it's about what works personally for me, right? Right.
If doing low carb is the thing you need to get your sugar cravings in check, go for it. But it seems like you're of the mindset that you need to punish yourself to learn a lesson, which simply isn't the case, and is the start of a dark road towards an eating disorder.0 -
OP I agree with others that continuing with a plan you find incredibly restrictive, to "teach yourself a lesson" doesn't sound like a healthy mindset toward weight loss. This doesn't need to feel like a punishment.0
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »So you're saying for example:
If my daily calorie goal is 1300, and I eat 60g of Carbs, 80g Fat and 50g protein, and my calories say '1100' I'll still lose weight even with such high carbs AND fat?
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I didn't mean a lesson in a bad way. You'd have to be me to really understand. It's nothing bad, it's a good thing. I'm just teaching myself something new and to kick my binge eating in the butt.0
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »@64crayons
If you eat too much protein it gets converted into glucose, glucose goes up and that will make fat store. Basically if you eat too much of it it'll turn into sugar/carbs that you didn't mean to put in your body.
If that's part of what your ex taught you, he lied to you about a lot more than just seeing other girls.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »I didn't mean a lesson in a bad way. You'd have to be me to really understand. It's nothing bad, it's a good thing. I'm just teaching myself something new and to kick my binge eating in the butt.
With regards to your binge eating, would you mind elaborating on what kinds of foods you binge on, and what triggers you to do this, and what constitutes a binge in your mind? Because there have been so many points about food and nutrition that you have misunderstood up to this point, I'm curious if correcting some of those by eating a sensible diet in moderation may ultimately nip the binging issue in the bud to begin with. Are you binging because you were restricting so hard, due to the extremely flawed recommendations of your ex? If so, and you just start eating a variety of foods at a reasonable calorie deficit and allow room for the foods that you tend to binge on, maybe you wouldn't actually binge on them?
Please note - I am not a binge eater so I don't have direct experience with this, however, I feel like some additional details about this may help others who have struggled with this give you help on how to control it. I'm just not convinced that continued radical elimination of a certain food group is the best solution for you, based on the information you've already provided.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »In order to bring up my calories and fat intake, I eat straight up butter and salt it. I get it's not the healthiest, but I'm under strict low carb diet.
Question: Does anyone else do this? Do you think I should stop, or do you have a better alternative?
I buy Breton butter with special sel de guerande expressly for this purpose. No salting necessary.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »You have a problem if you're eating less than 1000 calories from actual food and fill the rest up with eating straight butter.
Like, a serious problem.
Why? (in other words, what's the substance to your scare tactics? )0 -
What about avocado? I used to do Atkins. For yearssssssssssss. Loved it! Loved BACON! Until I went in for my annual one year and out of the blue - my cholesterol jumped to 266. YIKES. Now, I eat a balanced diet. Boring. LOL0
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stevencloser wrote: »You have a problem if you're eating less than 1000 calories from actual food and fill the rest up with eating straight butter.
Like, a serious problem.
Why? (in other words, what's the substance to your scare tactics? )
First and foremost would be the lack of appropriate amounts of micronutrients.0 -
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OP, there are lots of people on this site that are binge eaters as well (I'm not one). Posts I've seen from them indicate being overly restrictive is one of the major triggers for later binges.
I'm sure there is a group on this board for binge eaters - why not join that group and get some advice from people who are successfully (and not-so-successfully) managing it?0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I'm on a lowish carb diet, just try to stay below 100g. I started this because i was sick of constantly being hungry and counting down the minutes to my next meal, even though I was eating what is thought of as the most satiating carb choices.
Now I am happy and full and don't have the burden of thinking about food, food, food all day long. My cravings for sweets has also dramatically diminished.
I would think that eating approximately 500 calories more a day over your previous intake has more to do with your satiety than your macro ratio.0 -
I will say my ex is right, I don't really have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
Binge for me goes like this: I eat well, then I am done. I start thinking about other food that tastes better, even though I'm full. Then it turns into a stressful situation where my craving is fighting with the rest of me. Then I give in and cramp in a bunch of food that wasn't supposed to be in my diet. Then I promise to do better the next day, but that doesn't happen. The cycle ends up repeating itself til I gain 3-5lbs because of it.
I will say my ex is right, I don't have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
So far I am managing well.0 -
Also a binge eater (working on it). I found that I tried cutting out foods from my diet made me crave them more. All I could think about was the "bad" foods that were no nos, but I had to have them. I'd obsess and think about the at work, on the way home, and they'd be the first things I'd eat when I walk in the door.Mallybear2020 wrote: »I will say my ex is right, I don't really have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
Binge for me goes like this: I eat well, then I am done. I start thinking about other food that tastes better, even though I'm full. Then it turns into a stressful situation where my craving is fighting with the rest of me. Then I give in and cramp in a bunch of food that wasn't supposed to be in my diet. Then I promise to do better the next day, but that doesn't happen. The cycle ends up repeating itself til I gain 3-5lbs because of it.
I will say my ex is right, I don't have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
So far I am managing well.
I've had much better success not labeling any foods as bad or saying I can't have x because it's not "on my diet". I try to eat mostly whole, nutritious foods. when I have room in my day, I work in a treat. I save up calories because my weekends can have a lot of calorie dense foods. I do a lot more cardio now so I can eat more and have more treats.
Personally, this worked far better than a very restrictive diet.0 -
Also a binge eater (working on it). I found that I tried cutting out foods from my diet made me crave them more. All I could think about was the "bad" foods that were no nos, but I had to have them. I'd obsess and think about the at work, on the way home, and they'd be the first things I'd eat when I walk in the door.Mallybear2020 wrote: »I will say my ex is right, I don't really have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
Binge for me goes like this: I eat well, then I am done. I start thinking about other food that tastes better, even though I'm full. Then it turns into a stressful situation where my craving is fighting with the rest of me. Then I give in and cramp in a bunch of food that wasn't supposed to be in my diet. Then I promise to do better the next day, but that doesn't happen. The cycle ends up repeating itself til I gain 3-5lbs because of it.
I will say my ex is right, I don't have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
So far I am managing well.
I've had much better success not labeling any foods as bad or saying I can't have x because it's not "on my diet". I try to eat mostly whole, nutritious foods. when I have room in my day, I work in a treat. I save up calories because my weekends can have a lot of calorie dense foods. I do a lot more cardio now so I can eat more and have more treats.
Personally, this worked far better than a very restrictive diet.
Thank you for sharing this. I think there are others who have had similar success, but since I have not directly had to deal with binge eating, I was hesitant to say that someone who does struggle with this should try introducing the foods in moderation.
OP again, one recurring theme I keep seeing from you are comments about eating foods that aren't supposed to be in your diet, foods that taste better, eating well, etc. If you maybe look at a less restrictive program overall, instead of a certain diet - just open yourself to eating ALL foods in moderation, you won't feel the need to binge, as @auddii has suggested was the situation in her case. With no medical reasons to restrict foods, you can truly eat ANY food you want as long as you are in a calorie deficit and you will lose weight. No special "diet" needed. Promise.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »
Also a binge eater (working on it). I found that I tried cutting out foods from my diet made me crave them more. All I could think about was the "bad" foods that were no nos, but I had to have them. I'd obsess and think about the at work, on the way home, and they'd be the first things I'd eat when I walk in the door.Mallybear2020 wrote: »I will say my ex is right, I don't really have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
Binge for me goes like this: I eat well, then I am done. I start thinking about other food that tastes better, even though I'm full. Then it turns into a stressful situation where my craving is fighting with the rest of me. Then I give in and cramp in a bunch of food that wasn't supposed to be in my diet. Then I promise to do better the next day, but that doesn't happen. The cycle ends up repeating itself til I gain 3-5lbs because of it.
I will say my ex is right, I don't have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
So far I am managing well.
I've had much better success not labeling any foods as bad or saying I can't have x because it's not "on my diet". I try to eat mostly whole, nutritious foods. when I have room in my day, I work in a treat. I save up calories because my weekends can have a lot of calorie dense foods. I do a lot more cardio now so I can eat more and have more treats.
Personally, this worked far better than a very restrictive diet.
Thank you for sharing this. I think there are others who have had similar success, but since I have not directly had to deal with binge eating, I was hesitant to say that someone who does struggle with this should try introducing the foods in moderation.
OP again, one recurring theme I keep seeing from you are comments about eating foods that aren't supposed to be in your diet, foods that taste better, eating well, etc. If you maybe look at a less restrictive program overall, instead of a certain diet - just open yourself to eating ALL foods in moderation, you won't feel the need to binge, as @auddii has suggested was the situation in her case. With no medical reasons to restrict foods, you can truly eat ANY food you want as long as you are in a calorie deficit and you will lose weight. No special "diet" needed. Promise.
So much truth here, OP. So much truth.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »
Also a binge eater (working on it). I found that I tried cutting out foods from my diet made me crave them more. All I could think about was the "bad" foods that were no nos, but I had to have them. I'd obsess and think about the at work, on the way home, and they'd be the first things I'd eat when I walk in the door.Mallybear2020 wrote: »I will say my ex is right, I don't really have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
Binge for me goes like this: I eat well, then I am done. I start thinking about other food that tastes better, even though I'm full. Then it turns into a stressful situation where my craving is fighting with the rest of me. Then I give in and cramp in a bunch of food that wasn't supposed to be in my diet. Then I promise to do better the next day, but that doesn't happen. The cycle ends up repeating itself til I gain 3-5lbs because of it.
I will say my ex is right, I don't have a lot of self discipline. However I am working on that. I'm trying to workout extra hard and focus my stress eating onto the workout.
So far I am managing well.
I've had much better success not labeling any foods as bad or saying I can't have x because it's not "on my diet". I try to eat mostly whole, nutritious foods. when I have room in my day, I work in a treat. I save up calories because my weekends can have a lot of calorie dense foods. I do a lot more cardio now so I can eat more and have more treats.
Personally, this worked far better than a very restrictive diet.
Thank you for sharing this. I think there are others who have had similar success, but since I have not directly had to deal with binge eating, I was hesitant to say that someone who does struggle with this should try introducing the foods in moderation.
OP again, one recurring theme I keep seeing from you are comments about eating foods that aren't supposed to be in your diet, foods that taste better, eating well, etc. If you maybe look at a less restrictive program overall, instead of a certain diet - just open yourself to eating ALL foods in moderation, you won't feel the need to binge, as @auddii has suggested was the situation in her case. With no medical reasons to restrict foods, you can truly eat ANY food you want as long as you are in a calorie deficit and you will lose weight. No special "diet" needed. Promise.
I have struggled with binges in the past. Very low calorie diets set me off. Restricting carbohydrates or fat to low levels sets me off. Trying to avoid certain foods dubbed "bad" sets me off.
I've been counting calories for almost a year now and haven't had a binge once. I know my problem wasn't as severe what other people have struggled with, but it's felt like such a blessing to get rid of the secret eating and the guilt and the crying and the sick feelings. I really feel like calorie logging and a moderate approach has changed my life for the better. Hitting goal weight feels like just a bonus. I think about food when I'm logging it, cooking it, eating it, or when I otherwise choose to (reading about food or watching food TV). It feels like food finally has its rightful place in my life.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »You have a problem if you're eating less than 1000 calories from actual food and fill the rest up with eating straight butter.
Like, a serious problem.
Why? (in other words, what's the substance to your scare tactics? )
First and foremost would be the lack of appropriate amounts of micronutrients.
I can't even.
Excuse me while I go pet some puppies to calm down. #petPupsErryday0 -
He lied to you about "EVERYTHING"
INCLUDING HOW TO LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY.0 -
@dalielahdawn
What he was doing is something he said I should try. It works for him, because he is healthy/looks like a model.
It just doesn't work for me.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »You have a problem if you're eating less than 1000 calories from actual food and fill the rest up with eating straight butter.
Like, a serious problem.
Why? (in other words, what's the substance to your scare tactics? )
First and foremost would be the lack of appropriate amounts of micronutrients.
I can't even.
Excuse me while I go pet some puppies to calm down. #petPupsErryday
I'll PM you the deets on our A2PP (addicted to puppy petting) support group.0 -
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »Thanks guys. I'm stuffing in a piece of bologna and fixing a scrambled egg.
Let my gag reflexes commence.
@Mallybear2020 it is not everyone's cup of coffee (could be done with tea, etc) but I have started the day many times with 600 calories from coconut oil (love the stuff) and 200 calories of Heavy Whipping Cream in my first cup of coffee. It is part of my 1300 breakfast. Almonds, coconut flakes and an egg is good for the other 500 calories.
I think I have a mental block to butter because as a kid I milked the cows by hand and my mom churned the butter.0 -
My cousin could be a fitness model for a magazine and I still don't take diet advice from him. He does this slow care crap thing that I feel is completely ridiculous for me. I love pasta, I love bread. I still eat them on a pretty regular basis and continuously weight. No one way of eating works for everyone but. Eating sticks of butter man the idea makes me want to throw up for you. Give just CICO a try for 2 weeks. It will work plus you are already at a healthy weight for your height so weight loss is going to be slow period.
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