The January 2016 Running Challenge
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I got 3 miles more miles in yesterday. My back wasn't hurting for a change so it felt great!
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@snha - Get thee to a sports doc. That pain in the heel could be related to the achilles pain as the achilles connects at the heel. Could be tendinitis. If so, you need to rest it and let it heal. Best to have a professional diagnosis and recovery plan for an achilles in my opinion.
@runner_girl83 - My DW is kind of like that. She has seen me have success via diet and exercise and asks me to help her do the same because she currently isn't ready to do it on her own (therein is the real problem anyone will have). Problem is she counters all my advice giving reasons why she can't do those things. So it typically ends with me pointing out that I can only advise from my experience because I'm not a professional dietician/trainer/etc.0 -
DATE...............MILES...............TOTAL
1/1....................REST...................0.00
1/2.....................16.00.................16.00
1/3.......................5.00.................21.00
1/4....................REST.................21.00
1/5.......................7.00.................28.00
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A quick 5km during dinner at work
1/1 - 3.36
2/1 - 3.08
5/1 - 3.08
Total 9.52/350 -
@snha If the pain persists, definitely see a doc ASAP to get a diagnosis. I've had issues with my achilles, but never pain. Just some dull tightness that I had to work through. But pain afterwards is a bad sign; achy: OK, pain: bad. Definitely give yourself a couple days to let them rest and hopefully it's a one time thing.
@MorningGhost14 You are a beast. If it was cold enough to turn my hat into ice, I would have definitely treadmilled it. Hope you still have all your toes!0 -
1-Rest day
2-Flare/rest day
3-13.13mi The first six had me convinced i was going to turn around. the rest was nice.
4-rest day
5-pain day
maybe I'll get in 3 tomorrow
RACES:
Jan 16-Frosty 5k
Feb 13-Steve Cullen Run
?Mar 14-Great Pi Run?
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runner_girl83 wrote: »I can't find who originally posted on the hydration/fueling question earlier but I did want to share my experiences as I have struggled with this and with the horrid GI distress. I have always taken something with me on longer runs greater than an hour (water and or Bloks or gummy bears and something for the pup). I followed the same practice for all my HMs and typically would fuel at the halfway point but I have been having some real stomach/intestinal issues that I could not figure out. My daughter is convinced it is all hydration related so before my HM last weekend I made sure I was very well hydrated. During the race I sipped water (only) at each hydration point and at mile 4 I had some gummy bears - only I didn't eat them, I let them dissolve slowly in my mouth. Same with the Blok at mile 6. I had NO stomach issues at all, not even a grumble. I also did not run out of steam, finished strong with a PR, placing higher than I thought I could in my AG. Having it work once doesn't mean it is the solution I know, but I was thrilled not to have any issue. I also don't really know if it was the hydration or not getting the gummies/bloks into my stomach to digest. The point is though that you have to keep trying things until you figure out what works for you.
It was me!
Someone mentioned eating jelly beans the other day too.. I actually really want to try the gummy bears though! The thought of having one of those gels (they look so gooey and I've heard they can be messy?) isn't real appealing lol
I will try the gummy bears on my next long run and see how I go!
I also ordered a Spibelt (should arrive later in the week) to carry my phone as I had to keep swapping hands on my 13K. I usually just play my music out loud when I'm running (ear phones bug me) but I know I need to start wearing head phones and get used to them so I'm hoping having the phone in the spibelt will be easier to manage the swaying headphone cords (I hate how they bounce around when I run - even if I lead the cords up my shirt) Will have to work on a more comfortable approach! And I also like the thought of ordering a water bottle for the spibelt in the future if holding a water bottle doesn't feel right
Also.. My New Year (virtual) 10k run is this Saturday! Just looked up the transit timetable and looks like my medal is only days away from arriving!! Yay!!
This running shizz is getting serious now!
I tried these but found Gu Chomps worked better for me. I felt no assist or recovery with these. i was very sad
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@kristinegift ... it was 3... lol0
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I do single serve packs of welch's fruit snacks. Was not a fan of the sport beans. Clif Bloks or Skratch Fruit Drops are good too, but expensive.0
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Going to try to catch up on this month's posts today
1/1 - 3.5 miles on treadmill
1/2 - Nada
1/3 - 3.75 miles on treadmill + weights
1/4 - First day back to office / school...had to stay home to get kids moving and ready.
1/5 - 4 miles on treadmill + 4.65 miles on stationary bike
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I didn't log yesterday - 4.5 km running drills and easy run. It was supposed to be a recovery run from a 15k the day before which I didn't do so I'll call it a holiday recovery run.
That makes 9.5/50km.
It was my second run in my new Pearl Izumis. I bought them at a half price sale just to try but sadly I don't they are going to work. I haven't been doing a lot of running but my legs feel pretty beat up for an easy 5k. There is some tightness in there, which isn't unusual but it does seem a bit worse.
Upcoming 2016 Races
March - 5 mile Slush Run and/or Bolt run (distance undecided) depending on dates
An undecided Sprint triathlon
April - 8 mile road race
May - Bluenose either half marathon or 10k
Cabot Trail Relay leg (not picked yet)
July - Challenge St Andrews half Ironman
September - Maritime Race Weekend (5k Friday night, 1/2 marathon Saturday)
And lots of other little races along the way.0 -
MorningGhost14 wrote: »@kristinegift ... it was 3... lol
@MorningGhost14 3 degrees?!?! I draw the line at single digits. Too cold for this runner!
@3dogsrunning I hate when a new pair of shoes don't work out. Are they cute enough to wear out and about at least?0 -
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kristinegift wrote: »MorningGhost14 wrote: »@kristinegift ... it was 3... lol
@MorningGhost14 3 degrees?!?! I draw the line at single digits. Too cold for this runner!
@3dogsrunning I hate when a new pair of shoes don't work out. Are they cute enough to wear out and about at least?
Yes. It was the first time in forever I tried a new shoe but made sure if be able to wear them regardless. 0 -
Wow, this group is pretty intimidating, but I need to jump in and "begin" somewhere, right? I completed the c25k program in late 2014, but haven't really done much with running since then. So I'm trying to get into running more and my January RUNNING goal is 20 miles! I have a virtual 5k race on the 30th that I want to be able to RUN the entire thing without having to stop and walk any of it!
1/1 - 1 mile running (9 more walking)
1/2 - 5 miles walking
1/3 - 2 miles running (3.4 more walking) (total running=3)
1/4 - 3.5 miles walking
1/5 - 3.5 miles walking0 -
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MorningGhost14 wrote: »
Cold this morning. ...
Good lord! You win!.... Its 40's and windy here, I'm such a cry baby...0 -
titianknitter wrote: »Hi, I just found this group/thread today and I'm hopping in. Goal for January is 60 miles. I did 2 yesterday and 2.8 this morning despite feeling crappy. Also starting to wonder if it's time for new shoes, blah.
Welcome to the group! Never pass up new shoes! We love shoes here!0 -
Newbie welcomes to @kandid64 @robmckim2 @refinnej70
@zmcgrandles: I’m confused…are you doing your ticker backwards from goal? Or did you really do a 70 miles run as your first run? (I’m guessing you’re not Stateside and that 3/1 is “3rd of January” rather than “1st day of March”)
@Mrs_Hoffer: I would suggest jumping back into C25K to get to that goal. You already know it works if you’ve done it in 2014. While your goals are your goals, I don’t see anything “bad” about walking part of the 5K if you’re happy with the overall pace. I did my first 5K run/walk and my goal was to get 30:00 or under..I ended up just a little over 32:00 and was happy with that. I still do some walking in my “runs” (although quite a bit less now than when I first started “running”) but I’ve hit the point where it’s mostly running and I’m pretty sure I could easily hit that 30:00 or under goal for a 5K now (but I’m shooting for a half marathon at this point).
@moremonica: If you did zero miles in December, that’s 10 more than then. I would imagine if we did a poll of all the people in this area, there aren’t a whole lot of life-long athletes..most of us had that “a-ha” day where we got tired of being stapled to the couch and decided running might be “worth a try”. Welcome!
@KatEmmaMarie: Congrats on the long run
@MorningGhost14: You sir are nuts..but congrats on doing it anyway in the 3 degrees…
Jan 1: When the run started it was still the 1st..so I'm counting it here.
6.59 cold night miles, slow, around 12:40/mile.
Jan 2: REST DAY
Jan 3: First “official” training day for the HM and first snowfall of the year (on a run day at least). 3.51 miles. Some fast intervals mixed in with slower paced runs. 12:10 average pace, fastest split was mile 2 (11:29).
Jan 4: Wimped out
Jan 5: Ice in my ‘stache at the end of the run…that’s new. 3.2 miles this morning
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I have a group question:
Looking at my Garmin data I'm running 5-10 minutes and walking 2-3 my entire run. Once in a while, I have runs that are better or worse. I can run a race non-stop, 10k done, besides the chafing I had on the HM, I feel like I could have done it (minus the water stations). I nailed the first 10 miles.
My husband thinks its mental. I'll be able to rule out cardiac issues in a few weeks (which really I doubt I have, but who knows).
Lets assume it's mental. What the heck do I do? Could it really be mental?
While there could be a physiological component, an awful lot of distance running is mental. Assuming the walk/run thing is primarily mental, here's an exercise to train yourself to keep running: Instead of doing run/walk intervals, do run/run slower intervals. This will help you get mentally used to doing a couple of things: Running slower to rest instead of walking, and going back to running faster after you've had some recovery while running slower.
If you get scientific about this, Jack Daniels has several paces of different speeds that are used for different training purposes; and the distance or time of the interval varies by what length race you train for and where you are in the training cycle. But the mental aspect is pretty much the same; you get used to the idea that it's okay to run slower, but it's not okay to stop running.
That's a very simplified explanation of speed work. Its primary purpose is to train you to run faster in the race, but it can also help you with the mental effort to keep running and the mental effort to turn it up a notch when you get near the finish line.
Of course, all this needs to be tossed out the window if it turns out there is a real physiological reason you need to back off to walking for your intervals.
If it's simply that you can't keep running longer than 10 minutes, but you can run again after you've walked 3 minutes, chances are there's a simpler cure: Just run slower, to the point where you *can* keep running for however long your planned run is.
Thanks. I'm going to try to go slower. See if it really is mental.
I figure if I'm running a bit at a 8-9 min mile, I just may be overdoing it. I'll ease off the pace and focus on distance and stop trying to out run my husband. I was reading about using HR as a guide. I usually run till its 190-200+ then walk to 150-170 and run/walks again. I may shoot for slower pace that puts me about 160-170-which is a comfortable pace. Kind of a "duh" moment huh? LOL!
Did a stress test today. Unremarkable. I'm ruling out cardiovascular issues.
Wow, those heart rates sound awfully high. On long runs, my heart rate peaks out somewhere between 160 and 185 while I warm up, then settles down to the mid-120s for the bulk of the run. When I let the pace creep faster, it hangs out in the mid 120s to mid 130s. For reference, Garmin puts me into Zone 3 at 129 beats per minute.
Even accounting for the fact that you're probably younger than I am, a continual run with HR in the 190s just blows my mind away. [Pause to check my last race . . .] At Resolution Run last Friday, my HR peaked at 175 because I didn't really have a quite long enough pre-race warm up; then it settled down and spent most of the race around 150. That's at race effort for 7.5 miles, on a tough day to run, in rolling hills. Take a look at Reindeer Run 5K . . . had a good pre-race warm up, and my HR peaked at 164 during the race and averaged 149. I ran Reindeer Run hard enough that I felt like puking when I stopped after crossing the finish line.
If I put that much effort into every run, I'd put myself onto the couch within 3 months.
running slower sounds like the obvious thing for you to try.
Ya, I'm pretty slow anyhow.. But slower run planned today. Here's my last a horrible run.
Not to beat a dead horse- but if there are any other insights as to how i might push past this, please share your unprofessional opinions.
I saw a cardiologist, but he wasn't buying my data. Honestly, he was an *kitten* about it all. Stress test was normal.
Really, I'm leaning to chalk it up to normal physiological differences.
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My blood work is normal too.0 -
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Got a question - maybe for @Stoshew71 or some other more experienced runners: I'm doing my first HM in 11 days. Don't normally worry about supplemental mid-race nutrition or extra hydration (outside of the race's set up water stations), but my races are 5Ks (99%) and almost a couple of 10Ks (1, plus one that was short by about a half-mile). I ran a 10-mile training run Saturday (with a couple 5+ miles on the surrounding days), and didn't feel like I was starving or dehydrated or anything in any of those. I normally have a cup of coffee before my morning training runs, and that's about it.
I've tried using a GU a couple times, and can't say that it did anything for me (aside for the extreme sweetness that left me with a strange mouthfeel for a few minutes). I don't normally feel particularly fatigued or anything, and can't say that I've ever "hit the wall."
If I do need a GU or something, I can do a trial-run this Saturday on my 11.5 mile training run, but my previous experience indicates that GU doesn't upset my stomach or anything.
Does all this mean I don't need to plan on a GU or a bean or anything on the actual race, or am I being stubborn or unwise or something?0 -
Got a question - maybe for @Stoshew71 or some other more experienced runners: I'm doing my first HM in 11 days. Don't normally worry about supplemental mid-race nutrition or extra hydration (outside of the race's set up water stations), but my races are 5Ks (99%) and almost a couple of 10Ks (1, plus one that was short by about a half-mile). I ran a 10-mile training run Saturday (with a couple 5+ miles on the surrounding days), and didn't feel like I was starving or dehydrated or anything in any of those. I normally have a cup of coffee before my morning training runs, and that's about it.
I've tried using a GU a couple times, and can't say that it did anything for me (aside for the extreme sweetness that left me with a strange mouthfeel for a few minutes). I don't normally feel particularly fatigued or anything, and can't say that I've ever "hit the wall."
If I do need a GU or something, I can do a trial-run this Saturday on my 11.5 mile training run, but my previous experience indicates that GU doesn't upset my stomach or anything.
Does all this mean I don't need to plan on a GU or a bean or anything on the actual race, or am I being stubborn or unwise or something?
Not stubborn or unwise. You don't *need* Gu or anything for a half marathon. (I say that as someone who does take it anyway, some people like to or prefer to or feel better if they do and that's fine too).
Generally you practice nutrition during training. You've trained this long without it and feel fine, I don't see a reason to switch.
Personally, I wouldn't try anything new this close to the race. One run isn't enough to convince me my stomach isn't going to revolt.0 -
Mrs_Hoffer wrote: »Wow, this group is pretty intimidating, but I need to jump in and "begin" somewhere, right? I completed the c25k program in late 2014, but haven't really done much with running since then. So I'm trying to get into running more and my January RUNNING goal is 20 miles! I have a virtual 5k race on the 30th that I want to be able to RUN the entire thing without having to stop and walk any of it!
Welcome! Don't be intimidated...I think you will find this group to be super encouraging and supportive and even those that run 200+ miles / month started somewhere. Also, lots of good information that can really help you grow as a runner!
Go get it!
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@9voice9 - I pretty much never eat or drink before or during a HM. Food upsets my stomach a little and too much fluid means I have to stop to pee. Like you, maybe a cup of coffee. If you did your 10-miler without anything, you should be fine, assuming the temperature isn't going to be such that water is necessary to avoid overheating.0
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