Calling all Exercise Haters
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JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »lynnstrick01 wrote: »This is an Idea I got from another discussion I was In:
I hate exercise, my mantra why on earth would you run unless someone is chasing you?
How many ways can we find to burn calories without the dreaded "exercise routine".. there is a website https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc that calculates number of calories burned doing daily activites. some of the numbers will surprise you. Lets see if we can find enough of them that we don't have to do those boring workout routines
If you don't exercise how can you expect to be able to run from someone chasing you? Flawed logic there.
That is kind of the whole point, I am exercising, just not in a regimented form. I spent 2 hours mucking out my horses stall yesterday, rather than paying the neighborhood kid to do it, that was a whopping 780 calories burned.. much more than I would have burned at the gym and got something accomplished that needed to be done anyway.0 -
You're basically speaking of NEAT (non exercise activity thermogenisis) here and lots of lean people who don't intentionally exercise burn calories from it. Many people who have laborous jobs stay fit from just working.lynnstrick01 wrote: »Love all the responses guys. I know some of you LOVE the gym, running, walking, exercise in general, for for you all that is GREAT. we SHOULD all feel that way, but unfortunately some of us don't. I Like for my exercise to feel more like i am actually accomplishing something other than that daily burn. I do a lot of things (the hard way) to make myself burn more calories, and was hoping others might add to my list or maybe incorporate mine into their own programs if they want.
Sweep (don't) vacuum (then vacuum if still needed)
Mop often
skip the car wash (wash and especially hand wax the car yourself)
Don't use the bagger on the lawn mower (rake and pick up those leaves and grass)
Load and unload your own groceries instead of delegating it to the bag boy or the kids
Iron your own clothes instead of taking to the cleaners
park as far away from the store or office as possible
stairs vs elevator
forget multitasking, make separate trips to the car, or up the stairs or to the other side of the house
Don't hire a painter, do it yourself
Lift hand weights while watching tv
add ZIP to your sex life.. (more benefits than just burning calories)
take out the garbage instead of delegating it to the kids
walk to your colleagues desk instead of phoning
I am a stay at home wife with no kids, so I understand that for some of you who work long hours some of these things are just not possible..And I live in Florida, so some of the things I do would be out of the question in the northern states this time of year, (but summer is coming) but for me, by forgetting all MOM ever taught me about being efficient and doing many tasks in a manner that is a little harder and a little more time consuming I am burning tons of calories without even thinking about it.. so if anyone else has some items to add to the list feel free I LOVE this kind of exercise.
Being able to do all the above though may not enhance your health. Wouldn't hurt it either though unless it hurt to do certain things (like lift something wrong and it tweaks your back, rake and your shoulder hurts, etc.)
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There is proof all around us that today's lifestyles are making us fat. Things that are meant to make life easier are also making us lazy. Many years ago people didn't need to go to they gym because they mowed and kept their own lawns (with push mowers, rakes, and bending over to pull weeds), They washed, folded, ironed their own clothes instead of taking them to the cleaners. They got up to change the channel on the tv rather than use the remote. etc etc.. no one thing seems like a lot, but it sure adds up at the end of the week.0
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Exercise = my sanity, my health, my muscles, oh yeah did I mention my sanity!
Oh yeah, if I am ever chased, I can out run them, no problem.0 -
Yes that activity helped, but the average person just doing NEAT would likely burn about 500 calories a day more than one who sedentary. We're fat because of calorie dense foods and over consumption.lynnstrick01 wrote: »There is proof all around us that today's lifestyles are making us fat. Things that are meant to make life easier are also making us lazy. Many years ago people didn't need to go to they gym because they mowed and kept their own lawns (with push mowers, rakes, and bending over to pull weeds), They washed, folded, ironed their own clothes instead of taking them to the cleaners. They got up to change the channel on the tv rather than use the remote. etc etc.. no one thing seems like a lot, but it sure adds up at the end of the week.
Realize that one could exercise hard every day, overeat more than they need and still get fat. It's no different if someone was physically active at home and over consumed.
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How did you measure that?lynnstrick01 wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »lynnstrick01 wrote: »This is an Idea I got from another discussion I was In:
I hate exercise, my mantra why on earth would you run unless someone is chasing you?
How many ways can we find to burn calories without the dreaded "exercise routine".. there is a website https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc that calculates number of calories burned doing daily activites. some of the numbers will surprise you. Lets see if we can find enough of them that we don't have to do those boring workout routines
If you don't exercise how can you expect to be able to run from someone chasing you? Flawed logic there.
That is kind of the whole point, I am exercising, just not in a regimented form. I spent 2 hours mucking out my horses stall yesterday, rather than paying the neighborhood kid to do it, that was a whopping 780 calories burned.. much more than I would have burned at the gym and got something accomplished that needed to be done anyway.
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rubyweapon8503 wrote: »marklduncombe wrote: »
For example my wife joined a dog agility club and takes our dog to the weekly meet and some times enters competitions, its exercise for both her and the dog and to boot she made new friends. true, its not burning huge amounts of calories but its better than nothing, every little helps.So if you hate exercise, DON'T DO IT. Just make sure you're in calorie deficit if you want weight loss.
That reminds me! I used to love walking and playing with dogs for the local animal shelter. I got exercise, but because helping out the dogs was meaningful to me, it didn't feel like a waste of time. The shelter where I live now is only open 9-5 M-F though.
In the uk we have a charity called cinnamon trust...they pair up walkers with elderly/disabled/sick owners of dogs....maybe you have something similar?0 -
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[/quote] You're basically speaking of NEAT (non exercise activity thermogenisis) here and lots of lean people who don't intentionally exercise burn calories from it. Many people who have laborous jobs stay fit from just working.
Being able to do all the above though may not enhance your health. Wouldn't hurt it either though unless it hurt to do certain things (like lift something wrong and it tweaks your back, rake and your shoulder hurts, etc.)
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Yes I guess that is what I am speaking of, just did't know the scientific name for it.. My husband is one of those people you are speaking of. He eats like a horse, not a pony but a Clydesdale, Loves sweets, candy, beer and wine, never ever does a regimented exercise and never gains a pound. But I know it is because his job is so physically demanding and even on his days off he is never still.
That is what I am trying to accomplish, I am not physically capable of doing the same high level work that he is, not due to being overweight but more because of back problems, and the fact that I just simply am not as strong as him. but I do truly believe that I can just increase the intensity of daily activities to meet my exercise requirements0 -
How did you measure that?lynnstrick01 wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »lynnstrick01 wrote: »This is an Idea I got from another discussion I was In:
I hate exercise, my mantra why on earth would you run unless someone is chasing you?
How many ways can we find to burn calories without the dreaded "exercise routine".. there is a website https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc that calculates number of calories burned doing daily activites. some of the numbers will surprise you. Lets see if we can find enough of them that we don't have to do those boring workout routines
If you don't exercise how can you expect to be able to run from someone chasing you? Flawed logic there.
That is kind of the whole point, I am exercising, just not in a regimented form. I spent 2 hours mucking out my horses stall yesterday, rather than paying the neighborhood kid to do it, that was a whopping 780 calories burned.. much more than I would have burned at the gym and got something accomplished that needed to be done anyway.
I used the calories burned calculator on health status website, they didn't have mucking stall or course so I used digging spading composting, it is pretty close to same thing except for that mucking the stall also calls for pushing a wheelbarrow full of wet yuk and dumping it, so i actually probably burned a little more than that0 -
arditarose wrote: »I hate running. I hate cardio. But I'm going to need a lot more than "mopping the floor" and taking the stairs to help raise my TDEE[
I am not saying that just mopping the floor will whip you into shape like an hour at the gym. What I am saying is that eveen for those who LOVE their workout routine, but especially those who don't, some small changes can add up to a lot of burned calories at the end of the day/week or month
http://www.prevention.com/sites/prevention.com/files/static/ways-to-calorie-burn-table.jpghttp://www.prevention.com/sites/prevention.com/files/static/ways-to-calorie-burn-table.jpg
ww.prevention.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-tips/100-easy-tricks-move-more-and-lose-weight
And for those who say these things do not replace cardio, I I00% AGREE it does not, But I look at it this way, every little thing you do that moves your body more is just that many more calories burned.
I think everybody knows SOMEONE who just seems to have boundless amounts of nervous energy, they cannot be still, even when they talk on the phone they don't sit, they pace, when they sit in a chair they have to swing their leg or wiggle their foot.. they are just in constant motion... It seems that these people (at least the ones I know) never need to work out, and are almost always reasonably thin. It is because they are ALWAYS moving, thus ALWAYS burning calories in one way or another.0 -
sorry those links didn't work, but the articles are titled, "100 simple ways to lose weight" and "lose 35 lbs without working out" both from prevention.com0
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lynnstrick01 wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »lynnstrick01 wrote: »This is an Idea I got from another discussion I was In:
I hate exercise, my mantra why on earth would you run unless someone is chasing you?
How many ways can we find to burn calories without the dreaded "exercise routine".. there is a website https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc that calculates number of calories burned doing daily activites. some of the numbers will surprise you. Lets see if we can find enough of them that we don't have to do those boring workout routines
If you don't exercise how can you expect to be able to run from someone chasing you? Flawed logic there.
That is kind of the whole point, I am exercising, just not in a regimented form. I spent 2 hours mucking out my horses stall yesterday, rather than paying the neighborhood kid to do it, that was a whopping 780 calories burned.. much more than I would have burned at the gym and got something accomplished that needed to be done anyway.
If you do that once a week and other strenuous tasks technically you don't need to exercise, I always track activities such as this as I like to know exactly how many calories I burn. My worry is over doing it and not supplementing the extra calories burned. Also walking more frequently, using the stairs and not the lift, popping to the shop they all add up.
One thing I would say though is don't always take MFP word on calories burnt, I commute to work by bike and I use several apps to track. If I input the time and distance on MFP its usually always a good 100kcal more than the other two I would say were more trusted tracking apps.0 -
Thanks for the support, I use the healthstatus web page. I know none of them can be completely accurate. too many variables, How heavy was each shovel full of yuk, how fast were you working at it, did you stop to wipe sweat, but I figure as long as it is pretty close that is good enough for me because there are still a lot of things that NO ONE tracks. how far did you walk to and from the bathroom today, are you that person who constantly wiggles their foot when sitting, the site I use even counts calories for brushing your teeth and driving.. no way I am going to count those.. so I think it pretty much comes out in the end0
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It makes me sad that so many hate to exercise , my solution is to find something that's fun there's so much out there its not only good for you physically but mentally as well
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I do get your point. Slaving away on the dreadmill is not my idea of fun, but I want to eat a whole lot more than sweeping the floor is going to allow me. I found other activities that I really enjoy that burn a ton: martial arts, trampoline, swimming pool (especially those with a slide. I think I got 50 flights of stairs lol), running outside with Zombies!Run which got me up to doing mud runs.... Basically ninja training. Some "chores" are good like shoveling snow or mowing the lawn. Most activities are fun. I wish I had more friends that were into it: kayaking, volleyball, tennis, dodge ball (mentioned above) sounds like so much fun, going out dancing, tag with your kids if you have them, hiking to a new waterfall, biking etc
See the world, grab the bull by the horns, and have a blast! Then there is no gym needed. Needs more time and planning though.0 -
I do get your point. Slaving away on the dreadmill is not my idea of fun, but I want to eat a whole lot more than sweeping the floor is going to allow me. I found other activities that I really enjoy that burn a ton: martial arts, trampoline, swimming pool (especially those with a slide. I think I got 50 flights of stairs lol), running outside with Zombies!Run which got me up to doing mud runs.... Basically ninja training. Some "chores" are good like shoveling snow or mowing the lawn. Most activities are fun. I wish I had more friends that were into it: kayaking, volleyball, tennis, dodge ball (mentioned above) sounds like so much fun, going out dancing, tag with your kids if you have them, hiking to a new waterfall, biking etc
See the world, grab the bull by the horns, and have a blast! Then there is no gym needed. Needs more time and planning though.
Yeah, I wish I liked all that stuff, the truth is I am kind of clumsy and not very good at most sports (even when I was a skinny kid) Now as a 47 year old woman I am still kind of awkward at that stuff and I guess maybe a little emotionally scarred from being made fun of as a kid. If I tried to play a sport I would absolutely DIE from embarrassment, and forget joining a gym and doing aerobics or zumba in front of all those people.
I have some exercise equipment at home, a stair stepper and an elliptical machine, and I try to make myself get on those a little each day, but can't manage to stick with it long enough to even bother to log it.
Mostly though I KNOW MYSELF, I know that I can kick myself in the butt, get on that elliptical, work my way up to 30 mins or more per day .. but I also know that if anything happens to interrupt that routine I will fall off the wagon and won't get back on until I'm back in trouble with weight again.
That is why I want to be more realistic, the animals have to be cared for, the grocery shopping has to be done, the house has to be cleaned, I won't make excuses not to do those things, so If I can just burn more calories while I am doing them to keep me in shape I will have it made.0 -
lynnstrick01 wrote: »I do get your point. Slaving away on the dreadmill is not my idea of fun, but I want to eat a whole lot more than sweeping the floor is going to allow me. I found other activities that I really enjoy that burn a ton: martial arts, trampoline, swimming pool (especially those with a slide. I think I got 50 flights of stairs lol), running outside with Zombies!Run which got me up to doing mud runs.... Basically ninja training. Some "chores" are good like shoveling snow or mowing the lawn. Most activities are fun. I wish I had more friends that were into it: kayaking, volleyball, tennis, dodge ball (mentioned above) sounds like so much fun, going out dancing, tag with your kids if you have them, hiking to a new waterfall, biking etc
See the world, grab the bull by the horns, and have a blast! Then there is no gym needed. Needs more time and planning though.
Yeah, I wish I liked all that stuff, the truth is I am kind of clumsy and not very good at most sports (even when I was a skinny kid) Now as a 47 year old woman I am still kind of awkward at that stuff and I guess maybe a little emotionally scarred from being made fun of as a kid. If I tried to play a sport I would absolutely DIE from embarrassment, and forget joining a gym and doing aerobics or zumba in front of all those people.
I have some exercise equipment at home, a stair stepper and an elliptical machine, and I try to make myself get on those a little each day, but can't manage to stick with it long enough to even bother to log it.
Mostly though I KNOW MYSELF, I know that I can kick myself in the butt, get on that elliptical, work my way up to 30 mins or more per day .. but I also know that if anything happens to interrupt that routine I will fall off the wagon and won't get back on until I'm back in trouble with weight again.
That is why I want to be more realistic, the animals have to be cared for, the grocery shopping has to be done, the house has to be cleaned, I won't make excuses not to do those things, so If I can just burn more calories while I am doing them to keep me in shape I will have it made.
I really think you're selling yourself short here, honestly, because that is stuff that most everyone does, not anything that's going to contribute substantially to your improved health (or even to significant calorie burn.) But you're only hurting yourself by not doing the physical activity needed to keep your muscles, bones, and cardiovascular system in the best condition possible, especially as you age.
The bottom line is that increasing your movement during daily activities is a good thing and it will contribute to a slightly higher daily energy expenditure, but if weight loss is your goal then you're better off paying strict attention to your diet than by trying to burn calories by taking the stairs or whatever. If improving your health rather than weight loss is your goal, then you will need to do some real exercise as a part of your day, something where you push your heart rate and your muscles.
Any physical activity is better than none, but having such a defeatist attitude about exercise is holding you back far more than any perceived limitations you think you have.0 -
Though I think looking at calories from brushing teeth or driving is just over the top, certain people don't have to make exercise efforts to stay in shape.
People in quite a few jobs, lifestyles, etc stay in shape without heading to a gym or owning exercise equipment. I actually enjoyed when I was in such positions, and in hindsight was overall more fit most of the time. But is sucks if you are sick or have an injury.0 -
I have cut the calories, and am losing, guess I should have mentioned that0
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lynnstrick01 wrote: »I have cut the calories, and am losing, guess I should have mentioned that
Okay, that's great, if that's all you care about then you certainly don't have to exercise. Weight loss doesn't require it (because, for example, a 5K run for me might only burn 200 calories, which is, what? a latte?) and your calorie deficit is all you need to lose.
I would just be very cautious about thinking about daily activities as "exercise" because for most people, they just aren't and it's not improving your health. Again, if you don't care about that and you just want to lose weight, then this is all pointless, but don't kid yourself into thinking that parking far away or ironing or taking out the garbage is going to have many health benefits unless you're going from literally zero activity.0 -
I don't think my attitude is defeatist, I think it is realistic, How many people get really psyched, go on a crash diet, hit the gym hard for 6 months lose the weight, tone up, get where they want to be, and quit... then 6 months to a year later they are right back where they started from.. this is because they made MAJOR changes that they were not willing or able (for whatever reason) to keep up the lifestyle ... Been there done that..... this time I simply want to make lifestyle changes in both eating habits and exercise that I feel confident I will stick with..
Even at about 30 lbs over weight I am still pretty healthy and active. I live in the country where there is LOTS of physical work to be done, mending fences, caring for animals, property maintenance on almost 7 acres, trimming trees and hauling debris, we have lots of trees so lots of work raking a picking up leaves, I do all the mowing and trimming (heavy gas weed eater) buying and unloading multiple 50lb feed bags every week for the animals..and I do it all, because my husband works on his job over 60 hours a week If I were really all that unhealthy I don't think I would be able to maintain this level of activity.
My weight is not stopping me from being healthy at this point, but I know that being over weight for long periods of time can cause a lot of problems that I don't want to deal with. and on the Short Term I just want to LOOK Better.
I didn't get fat because of lack of movement, I got fat because I had TERRIBLE eating habits.. and because I LOVE wine and soda, and because a lot of the "work" mentioned above is not consistent, It is done kind of "as needed" so I am trying to work in some calorie burners that are more routine.0 -
sorry if that sounded like a rant.. It's just that a lot of people seem to be thinking poor lynnstrick, needs encouragement to exercise.. and although I truly do appreciate the encouraging words, that is not really what I was hoping this thread would be.
I wanted it to be a kind of fun way for other like minded people, who aren't really crazy about REGIMENTED exercise to share ways to burn calories without the actual WORK-OUT routine.0 -
I'm not really talking about your weight at all here. When I say "health" it's not meant to be a euphemism for "weight".
If you are doing all that manual labour, I'm not sure why you are worrying about whether or not you're taking the stairs or packing your own groceries. You seem to keep changing what you're stating in your posts each time about your lifestyle and I'm not understanding why. If you spend your whole day doing manual labour then of course you might not need to hit the gym, but that was not AT ALL the impression you were giving in previous posts.
I'm now not really getting what your point is here at all, frankly.0 -
ok.. sorry i gave wrong impression.. the thing is that the manual labor is not consistent day in and day out, It is pretty much "as needed" I may go weeks without having to do much other than caring for the animals, then all at once, there are tons of things to do.
That is why I am looking for the day to day stuff to kind of fill in the blanks when I have spurts of not so much to do ..0 -
Based on human physiology, we didn't need to exercise when first arriving. Agriculture and food abundance changed all that for us along with technology. So I could see how maybe instinctively, exercise is something we don't strive for. Like anything now, most people who love exercise do it because of habitual behavior. Oh and dopamine.It makes me sad that so many hate to exercise , my solution is to find something that's fun there's so much out there its not only good for you physically but mentally as well
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Lol that was me getting ready for every bodybuilding contest. Ah pizza.lynnstrick01 wrote: »How many people get really psyched, go on a crash diet, hit the gym hard for 6 months lose the weight, tone up, get where they want to be, and quit... then 6 months to a year later they are right back where they started from.. this is because they made MAJOR changes that they were not willing or able (for whatever reason) to keep up the lifestyle ...
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lynnstrick01 wrote: »That is why I am looking for the day to day stuff to kind of fill in the blanks when I have spurts of not so much to do ..
I'm a bit baffled about why you're posting in the fitness and exercise forum about how to burn calories without exercising per se.
You stay at home and don't work, which gives you the luxury of being able to do things manually. If it works for you then that's fine.
Personally I work two jobs on a sixty to seventy hour week and have a disabled partner at home. Running and cycling is my headspace. It's not about the calories. If anything the calories are the least important aspect. It helps keep me sane.0 -
Based on human physiology, we didn't need to exercise when first arriving. Agriculture and food abundance changed all that for us along with technology. So I could see how maybe instinctively, exercise is something we don't strive for. Like anything now, most people who love exercise do it because of habitual behavior. Oh and dopamine.It makes me sad that so many hate to exercise , my solution is to find something that's fun there's so much out there its not only good for you physically but mentally as well
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Need the "like" button here.. this is spot on..
Oh yeah and I need my fix! LOL
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MeanderingMammal wrote: »lynnstrick01 wrote: »That is why I am looking for the day to day stuff to kind of fill in the blanks when I have spurts of not so much to do ..
I'm a bit baffled about why you're posting in the fitness and exercise forum about how to burn calories without exercising per se.
You stay at home and don't work, which gives you the luxury of being able to do things manually. If it works for you then that's fine.
Personally I work two jobs on a sixty to seventy hour week and have a disabled partner at home. Running and cycling is my headspace. It's not about the calories. If anything the calories are the least important aspect. It helps keep me same.
Maybe I should have posted in "just for fun" I did it here because I am talking about exercise and fitness, just a different KIND of exercise. I really didn't think that a title "calling all exercise haters" would be taken so seriously0
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