Why do some people feel the need to throw down a barbell?
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They ve managed to bend the dumbells at my gym...
Its always the attention seeking numb nutts that have an "invisible" male member on their foreheads
Lol. Classic ignorance.
Certain exercises require it because you can hurt your back or shoulders. Certain Olympic lifts, such as the snatch, require that when you're finished, you throw down the weight. There's no proper way to finish that lift nicely. If you do, you break form and can get hurt. There are many gyms that allow throwing the weight because its proper.
far from ignorant, and only the kettle calling the pot black would assume the rare example and make a meal of it. ...catch em on you re legs !0 -
Whether or not people realize it, this is not an argument about gym etiquette but about globo gyms that only stock generic equipment vs. gyms that feature higher end, specialized equipment. Globo gyms typically don't have bumper plates or drop flooring. They appeal to a different type of clientele and their rules typically prohibit any sort of lifting that necessitates the possibility of having to drop or throw your weights. But people need to learn that it's a totally different game when they walk into a gym that is equipped with bumper plates and drop flooring. Different class of clientele with typically more hardcore workout regimens. It is acceptable there.
The only time it is unacceptable is when somebody walks into a globo gym that only has iron plates and conventional flooring and started throwing up C&Js and snatches. More than likely then, the person will be asked to leave by gym staff. I've seen it done. My very last day at the gym before I cancelled my membership, which was at a Gold's, I saw a guy start doing C&J's on the carpet with iron plates. He got 2 sets in before the manager walked up to him and basically told him to leave.
That being said, with dumbbells it's a different matter entirely. The "safety" aspect of simply being able to drop dumbbells when you fail vs. having a bar come crashing down on your chest is one of the main reasons for using dumbbells. Even these globo gyms accept it in these cases typically. That is a necessary evil. I've done it myself and I'll do it again if I have to.0 -
Karma?
(Although he is on a platform and using bumper plates)0 -
I used to be judgmental too. Yet, when I begun lifting heavier weights I found myself making a little noise too. Especially with OHP with dumbbells, it is almost impossible not to grunt or breath a little harder...and trust me I try not to! Dropping weights doesn't bother me today as much. Now, talking on your cell phone while blocking the way to a machine, or curling in the squats rack.......0
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And are they lifting at >70%1RM EVERY DAMNED TIME?
Going that heavy isn't an everyday workout kind of thing, and it CERTAINLY isn't an everyday workout kind of thing for people who aren't lifting at that level.
LOL, 70% isn't an every day workout kind of thing? My work set weights are 80% 1RM and above usually for most lifts... so not sure where you got that info.
I'm probably an average guy at the gym... I also do power cleans and snatch to develop power. Using the correct equipment (bumper plates, half decent bar, platform) or even just some bumpers, it's perfectly fine to drop em. In a controlled drop where you keep your hands on it until it's close to the ground, it can even look like you're "throwing" the weight at the ground but as long as you aren't damaging equipment it shouldn't be an issue. If it is, change gyms. If you're launching it horizontally away from your body, then you're just being an *kitten*.
This is like the topic where people ***** about lifters "sitting on the bench" for 3 minutes between sets because they don't understand rest time requirements.
70% 1rm is a volume/warmup set LOL. They must be trolling.
80% for sets of up to 6
or 90% for sets of 3
For the record, I -always- drop the last deadlift in my work set.
And for all other sets, I only control the weight to my knees.
It's not worth the risk to my lower back.0 -
this was the most hilarious thread ever....."Im the lifty lifter of the best lifter and I know how to drop better than you"...wth0
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:flowerforyou: Thanks for those who answered my question.
I lift heavy - for me - and progressively get heavier, but since I often lift alone, too, I err on the side of caution. I'm still happy as a pig in poop with my results.0 -
So I'm in the process of switching from the YMCA to a U.S. Navy gym with a full crossfit system installed. The entire floor is rubberized. There's a monstrous jungle gym with ropes and pull up bars and every plate is a bumper plate. This is one of the places the local seals/UDT folks train. It's exceptionally common to see some guy (or girl) whip out a clean and jerk or a bunch of OHP lifts and drop the weight from full height without even looking at it, then sprint right over to the pullups and whip out like ten, then do some ring work, and run back over to his bar and throw the weight up a few more times to do it all again. It's designed to work that way.
Maybe OP and all the haters should go to a gym like this instead of the super sanitized YMCA's that don't even allow chalk?0 -
I'm just here for the lolz.
Not really, but I'm actually fascinated by both sides of this argument.
One the one side I'm fascinated by the fact that now 90% of the world is doing the classic weightlifting lifts, yet I rarely see this in gyms. Would love it if it were true.
On the other side, the ignorance of bumper plates and platforms from a few people is a bit sad.
Just to add a random fact, the rules of weightlifting, as set out by the IWF require the bar to be returned to the platform under control (not dropped intentionally or accidentally) and the grip can't be released until it passes the waist.0 -
In...
...for ignorance...
...and proper equipment.0 -
In...
...for ignorance...
...and proper equipment.
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In...
...for ignorance...
...and proper equipment.
The ones in my hands probably weigh like... a pound. So if I can throw one and hit someone in the head I earn points.
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hmmm...no barbell, so...0
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In...
...for ignorance...
...and proper equipment.
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Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.0 -
Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
Why are you picking on Carlo? Carlos? He might have different goals than you. Yoga planches are not that easy.
This was not easy for me either.
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Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
Why are you picking on Carlo? Carlos? He might have different goals than you. Yoga planches are not that easy.
I think you missed the joke.0 -
Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
please don't take this the wrong way, it's just my idea of "fit" might differ from yours. I like to do yoga, and swim, play on jungle gyms ,and sail, dance and so on .I'm not weak.0 -
I think you missed the joke.
I guess I did.0 -
Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
please don't take this the wrong way, it's just my idea of "fit" might differ from yours. I like to do yoga, and swim, play on jungle gyms ,and sail, dance and so on .I'm not weak.
This wasn't about you or yoga or saying that those who choose other means of fitness are lesser. This was about throwing/dropping barbells.0 -
I think you missed the joke.
I guess I did.
The joke was that yoga is all about posing on posture. That was the irony.
Get it?0 -
This was not easy for me either.
Neato! Which one are you?
To OP: I've dropped my deadlift, it's heavy and noisy. Nobody died.
It's technically not "allowed" at my gym, but it's really not an issue.0 -
Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
I like what you did there! :laugh: - took me a moment for the penny to drop!
edit: I just read the exchange of posts re: yoga above. I took this in good humour and I'm sure that is how it was meant.
PS: Loving the triple yoga-gymnast posture.
Now, let's get back to throwing barbells please.0 -
I drop when I'm working heavy set deadlifts. I usually only get 5 reps out of my heaviest set, and I am neurotic about my form. I drop every time, reset and pull that back up.
My heavy set is not as much as a man's heavy set, so it doesn't make the same noise. My husband has been yelled at by the gym owner's dad. They haven't yelled at me yet.0 -
I drop when I'm working heavy set deadlifts. I usually only get 5 reps out of my heaviest set, and I am neurotic about my form. I drop every time, reset and pull that back up.
My heavy set is not as much as a man's heavy set, so it doesn't make the same noise. My husband has been yelled at by the gym owner's dad. They haven't yelled at me yet.
Tell them to get bumper plates if it is such an issue.0 -
So the jist I am getting from this thread is generally you only drop a barbell in for example deadlift when you are working at around max weight and the object of the game is to drop it from around knee height or follow the bar down without resisting the weight as it goes? This makes sense.0
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So the jist I am getting from this thread is generally you only drop a barbell in for example deadlift when you are working at around max weight and the object of the game is to drop it from around knee height or follow the bar down without resisting the weight as it goes? This makes sense.
Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)0 -
cuz they're heavy0
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Thank you. This is what puts me off going to the gyms in my neighbourhood - all fancy mirrors, carpeting and piped music. Lifting heavy and having to drop weights would be frowned upon and I would be told to lift within my capabilities.Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)0 -
Thank you. This is what puts me off going to the gyms in my neighbourhood - all fancy mirrors, carpeting and piped music. Lifting heavy and having to drop weights would be frowned upon and I would be told to lift within my capabilities.Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)
I disagree about the part that needing to drop a barbell = not lifting "within your capabilities"...
...but acknowledge that it is, in fact, what you would be told at many gyms...
...(especially since some gyms just aren't equipped for certain kinds of lifting).0
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