eating 1 whole large pizza and still stay lean.

longlostyeti

People do ask when i eat 1 large whole pizza and still managed to stay lean? how the hell i do it? Its not a secret at all its just a mixture of Intermittent fasting/Fasted training/Weights. The way i do it when i know over the weekend im going to eat some copious amounts of food, i literally save all my Macros in the morning and only eat protein/veggies and watch my carbs and fat intake. Because you are saving that later in the day, that's how i am able to eat 1 large whole pizza or anything i like and still able to maintain and stay lean. Plus i only eat 2 large fulfilling meals, Try it and you will never go back to a traditional diet, but then again we are all different. It does not mean what works for me will work for you.

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

It works because your eating less calories than you burn. Nothing to do with fasted training etc.

cyronius

I eat one large pizza without putting on weight, and without any other dietary considerations, because I cycle commute to work and run every day...

It's all about the calories... Nothing to do with fasted training or the like...

longlostyeti

I disagree sure you guys can say its about the calories. But for calorie is not a calorie, because I aim for nutrition and not just a calorie for sake. Plus i don't even count calories as long I know my BMR and how much Protein, Carbs and Fat I need and it will just fall into place. Depending on what my goals are. Again I know my body pretty well if I just sit on my *kitten* and eat like this I'll be overweight. And plus i treat this as a my 10% mini cheat since my whole weekday diet consist of nutritional foods to support my training and weightlifting.

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

longlostyeti wrote: »

I disagree sure you guys can say its about the calories. But for calorie is not a calorie, because I aim for nutrition and not just a calorie for sake. Plus i don't even count calories as long I know my BMR and how much Protein, Carbs and Fat I need and it will just fall into place. Depending on what my goals are. Again I know my body pretty well if I just sit on my *kitten* and eat like this I'll be overweight. And plus i treat this as a my 10% mini cheat since my whole weekday diet consist of nutritional foods to support my training and weightlifting.

A calorie is a calorie, it is all it can be. It a unit of energy used by the body. Think about a gram is a gram, it can't be something else just because your weighing apples instead of ice cream.

And if you are tracking carbs/Proteins/fats then you are watching your calories you just might not realise it.
1 gram of protein =4 calories
1 gram of carbs =4 calories
1 gram of fat =9 calories

Fasted works outs aren't proven to do anything more than non fasted. And only eating two meals a day means nothing either, you can eat your calories in one sitting or spread it out over 6 meals, personal choice really and finding what works for you. It all comes down to the amount of calories you take in vs the amount you burn.

sijomial

Calories are units of energy - not units of nutrition.
By definition they are identical.

Yi5hedr3

Yes, although Pizza's bad combination of high carbs with high fat, is about the worst food combination there is.

longlostyeti

People are still in the notion of counting calories because we are bombarded by the media that to loose weight you have to watch and count your calories. But In my own experience it will just lead to bad habits like binge eating and depriving yourself. Especially who categorize food as clean food and bad foods. In reality there is no such thing. You can eat whatever you want as long you know how much macro nutrients that your body needs and in moderation. Again this works for me and it does not mean it will work for anyone. If you like to count your calories and its working for you go continue to do it.

longlostyeti

And yes they are identical in meaning. And yes I do know the basic, but I just dont see it that way. And for fasted training? How did you know it does not work for some people? Do you have the data that supports that argument? And who says eating two meals matters? I just said that because it helps me and its just a preference for me. And as you may notice by now I just don't like the word calories.

janejellyroll

longlostyeti wrote: »

I disagree sure you guys can say its about the calories. But for calorie is not a calorie, because I aim for nutrition and not just a calorie for sake. Plus i don't even count calories as long I know my BMR and how much Protein, Carbs and Fat I need and it will just fall into place. Depending on what my goals are. Again I know my body pretty well if I just sit on my *kitten* and eat like this I'll be overweight. And plus i treat this as a my 10% mini cheat since my whole weekday diet consist of nutritional foods to support my training and weightlifting.

You realize that a macro plan is just another way to count calories, right?

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

longlostyeti wrote: »

And yes they are identical in meaning. And yes I do know the basic, but I just dont see it that way. And for fasted training? How did you know it does not work for some people? Do you have the data that supports that argument? And who says eating two meals matters? I just said that because it helps me and its just a preference for me. And as you may notice by now I just don't like the word calories.

http://alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-part-2-false-hopes-for-fasted-cardio.html

Here is a link for you, the nitty gritty links are at the bottom of the article.

And I disagree that we are bombarded by the media to calorie count. I wish that were true, we get told to follow, low carb, zero sugar, low fat, soup diets, grapefruits diets and all matter of woo based carp.

Alatariel75

Fat = 9 cal per gram.
Protein = 4 cal per gram.
Carbs = 4 cal per gram.

Counting macros IS counting calories.

janejellyroll

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »

longlostyeti wrote: »

And yes they are identical in meaning. And yes I do know the basic, but I just dont see it that way. And for fasted training? How did you know it does not work for some people? Do you have the data that supports that argument? And who says eating two meals matters? I just said that because it helps me and its just a preference for me. And as you may notice by now I just don't like the word calories.

http://alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-part-2-false-hopes-for-fasted-cardio.html

Here is a link for you, the nitty gritty links are at the bottom of the article.

And I disagree that we are bombarded by the media to calorie count. I wish that were true, we get told to follow, low carb, zero sugar, low fat, soup diets, grapefruits diets and all matter of woo based carp.

The only time I really hear calorie counting talked about in the media is in the form of really negative messaging about what a pain it is or how it doesn't work (because sugars or whatever).

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

janejellyroll wrote: »

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »

longlostyeti wrote: »

And yes they are identical in meaning. And yes I do know the basic, but I just dont see it that way. And for fasted training? How did you know it does not work for some people? Do you have the data that supports that argument? And who says eating two meals matters? I just said that because it helps me and its just a preference for me. And as you may notice by now I just don't like the word calories.

http://alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-part-2-false-hopes-for-fasted-cardio.html

Here is a link for you, the nitty gritty links are at the bottom of the article.

And I disagree that we are bombarded by the media to calorie count. I wish that were true, we get told to follow, low carb, zero sugar, low fat, soup diets, grapefruits diets and all matter of woo based carp.

The only time I really hear calorie counting talked about in the media is in the form of really negative messaging about what a pain it is or how it doesn't work (because sugars or whatever).

You just hit the nail on the head! I never read about how it is the only scientifically proven way to lose weight, or that you can eat every food type you like only less of it etc.
I just don't get why the governments of the Western world aren't shouting it from the roof tops. You'd think they'd have a vested interest.

Sued0nim

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »

It works because your eating less calories than you burn. Nothing to do with fasted training etc.

I had one whole pizza yesterday too ..anchovies, black olive and capers on sourdough ..yum

I also had a chicken cacciatore and rice for lunch and smoked salmon and cream cheese for breakfast and ice cream and biscuits and snacks

the extra piece of chocolate tipped me over my calories target by 50 calories and my macros were perfectly on point

I will admit to a fasted workout but only because it's January and I wanted to miss the weekend rush at the gym

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

rabbitjb wrote: »

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »

It works because your eating less calories than you burn. Nothing to do with fasted training etc.

I had one whole pizza yesterday too ..anchovies, black olive and capers on sourdough ..yum

I also had a chicken cacciatore and rice for lunch and smoked salmon and cream cheese for breakfast and ice cream and biscuits and snacks

the extra piece of chocolate tipped me over my calories target by 50 calories and my macros were perfectly on point

I will admit to a fasted workout but only because it's January and I wanted to miss the weekend rush at the gym

Sounds lovely, esp the pizza and ice cream!

I eat a whole pizza at least once a month, normally drizzled with chilli oil but hey, it fits my calorie goals.

Francl27

Shaking my head at OP who clearly claims to know so much and still confuses BMR with TDEE.

zoeysasha37

I also occasionally eat a whole pizza. The reason I can do this without gaining is because of calories. I do it when I have enough calories left for it.
Counting macros is counting calories basically.
There's no magic to fasted training.

zoeysasha37

Alatariel75 wrote: »

Fat = 9 cal per gram.
Protein = 4 cal per gram.
Carbs = 4 cal per gram.

Counting macros IS counting calories.

This!!

snowflake954

longlostyeti wrote: »

And yes they are identical in meaning. And yes I do know the basic, but I just dont see it that way. And for fasted training? How did you know it does not work for some people? Do you have the data that supports that argument? And who says eating two meals matters? I just said that because it helps me and its just a preference for me. And as you may notice by now I just don't like the word calories.

You may not like the word "calories" but they are in everything we eat. Do your preference, of course, but it could be a real disaster for others to try it.

callsitlikeiseeit

Francl27 wrote: »

Shaking my head at OP who clearly claims to know so much and still confuses BMR with TDEE.

shhhh you'll confuse them even more...... lololol

larali1980

When I was in college I ate a whole pizza on several occasions. I was a size 0. Yes, it is true.

Then I got older and had kids and stuff. My metabolism changed. I was put on meds which had a side effect of weight gain. I was also much less active.

Problem is, my eating habits had NOT changed. Now I'm dealing with that.

longlostyeti

Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.

20yearsyounger

I eat lots of pizza too and stay lean. How do I do it? I eat less than I burn. Then I fill up the missing macro/nutrient numbers using the MFP diary. Works well for me.

lynn_glenmont

longlostyeti wrote: »

I disagree sure you guys can say its about the calories. But for calorie is not a calorie, because I aim for nutrition and not just a calorie for sake. Plus i don't even count calories as long I know my BMR and how much Protein, Carbs and Fat I need and it will just fall into place. Depending on what my goals are.

By that logic, nutrition is not nutrition. Pizza is not pizza. Protein is not protein. Training is not training.

Again I know my body pretty well if I just sit on my *kitten* and eat like this I'll be overweight. And plus i treat this as a my 10% mini cheat since my whole weekday diet consist of nutritional foods to support my training and weightlifting.

Of course, because you would then be changing the "calories-out" side of the calories-in/calories-out equation.

Alatariel75

longlostyeti wrote: »

Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... refusing to call it what it is is utterly illogical, but if that's what you want to do in your own head, so be it. But to then insist that your way is right, and better than others is nonsense.

arditarose

rabbitjb wrote: »

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »

It works because your eating less calories than you burn. Nothing to do with fasted training etc.

I had one whole pizza yesterday too ..anchovies, black olive and capers on sourdough ..yum

I also had a chicken cacciatore and rice for lunch and smoked salmon and cream cheese for breakfast and ice cream and biscuits and snacks

the extra piece of chocolate tipped me over my calories target by 50 calories and my macros were perfectly on point

I will admit to a fasted workout but only because it's January and I wanted to miss the weekend rush at the gym

I so looked to see if your diary was open. Teach me your ways!

longlostyeti

Again we are all different it does not

Alatariel75 wrote: »

longlostyeti wrote: »

Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... refusing to call it what it is is utterly illogical, but if that's what you want to do in your own head, so be it. But to then insist that your way is right, and better than others is nonsense.

Because when i first started i didnt really enjoy the diet that was given to me and i didnt like it i ended up binge eating and just starve myself. And literally avoiding friends party because i already ate all my calories. And my coach was my friends friend so he didnt really teach that much but just gave me an excel sheet to follow which foods to eat and what not to eat. (Which btw it worked for me because he did all the calculations for me.) The more i got into to it seriously i had to find a better way to sustain my weight lost and still enjoy life.

I know its the same meaning i just dont like using the word calories because some people are already confused with this thing. Like its all the secret to loosing weight and its all about the calories and not concentrating on the nutrition part of it and learning how to read food labels. Now im not saying to look at every food labels, what my point here is that i am more into nutritional aspect of the food rather than the calories of it.

Sure you can say calories in and calories out and loose weight on eating Doritos and Twinkies all day, but what nutrition do you get from it? Again im not saying to deprive yourself from it we just have to eat them in moderation. For me on weekdays/workweek i have 90% of my foods are coming from whole nutritional foods to support my weight training and the other 10% i just eat whatever i desire, mostly are pizzas and pastries. I am lean enough and i have figured out whats my body's magic number either if im bulking or cutting.

longlostyeti

oh an how do you check on someones diary? lol

longlostyeti

Is fasted training in bold letters? it seems like people are hating on that too. But then again i like to be training fasted anyways. Just like intermittent fasting people are just not used to it, but then again i got a good results from it.

blankiefinder

I just don't understand why people who don't agree with counting calories and that calories matter, come on a calorie counting based site? On any other site that would be called something ending with ing.