eating 1 whole large pizza and still stay lean.
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blankiefinder wrote: »I just don't understand why people who don't agree with counting calories and that calories matter, come on a calorie counting based site? On any other site that would be called something ending with ing.
I didn't come here to count calories at all. I came to ensure I was getting adequate nutrition to refuel workouts. The only real way to do that without making it more complex is to log food and by nature it spits out calories. I'd be fine if I could set it up to only track a few things and not give me a calorie total.
Some of the UA owned apps have a drop down menu for "nutrition" that leads people to the MFP site. I found it from Endomondo.0 -
longlostyeti wrote: »Again we are all different it does notAlatariel75 wrote: »longlostyeti wrote: »Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... refusing to call it what it is is utterly illogical, but if that's what you want to do in your own head, so be it. But to then insist that your way is right, and better than others is nonsense.
Because when i first started i didnt really enjoy the diet that was given to me and i didnt like it i ended up binge eating and just starve myself. And literally avoiding friends party because i already ate all my calories. And my coach was my friends friend so he didnt really teach that much but just gave me an excel sheet to follow which foods to eat and what not to eat. (Which btw it worked for me because he did all the calculations for me.) The more i got into to it seriously i had to find a better way to sustain my weight lost and still enjoy life.
I know its the same meaning i just dont like using the word calories because some people are already confused with this thing. Like its all the secret to loosing weight and its all about the calories and not concentrating on the nutrition part of it and learning how to read food labels. Now im not saying to look at every food labels, what my point here is that i am more into nutritional aspect of the food rather than the calories of it.
Sure you can say calories in and calories out and loose weight on eating Doritos and Twinkies all day, but what nutrition do you get from it? Again im not saying to deprive yourself from it we just have to eat them in moderation. For me on weekdays/workweek i have 90% of my foods are coming from whole nutritional foods to support my weight training and the other 10% i just eat whatever i desire, mostly are pizzas and pastries. I am lean enough and i have figured out whats my body's magic number either if im bulking or cutting.
Where did anyone post saying to eat Twinkies and Doritos?0 -
longlostyeti wrote: »Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.
So your argument is counting calories is bad because it leads to eating disorders but you count macros and that is somehow better.
Logic fail.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »longlostyeti wrote: »Again we are all different it does notAlatariel75 wrote: »longlostyeti wrote: »Yes tracking macros is counting calorie. I just dont use that word. And correction I'm not doing just hiit cardio I'm doing fasted weight training and just minimal cardio.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... refusing to call it what it is is utterly illogical, but if that's what you want to do in your own head, so be it. But to then insist that your way is right, and better than others is nonsense.
Because when i first started i didnt really enjoy the diet that was given to me and i didnt like it i ended up binge eating and just starve myself. And literally avoiding friends party because i already ate all my calories. And my coach was my friends friend so he didnt really teach that much but just gave me an excel sheet to follow which foods to eat and what not to eat. (Which btw it worked for me because he did all the calculations for me.) The more i got into to it seriously i had to find a better way to sustain my weight lost and still enjoy life.
I know its the same meaning i just dont like using the word calories because some people are already confused with this thing. Like its all the secret to loosing weight and its all about the calories and not concentrating on the nutrition part of it and learning how to read food labels. Now im not saying to look at every food labels, what my point here is that i am more into nutritional aspect of the food rather than the calories of it.
Sure you can say calories in and calories out and loose weight on eating Doritos and Twinkies all day, but what nutrition do you get from it? Again im not saying to deprive yourself from it we just have to eat them in moderation. For me on weekdays/workweek i have 90% of my foods are coming from whole nutritional foods to support my weight training and the other 10% i just eat whatever i desire, mostly are pizzas and pastries. I am lean enough and i have figured out whats my body's magic number either if im bulking or cutting.
Where did anyone post saying to eat Twinkies and Doritos?
This.
And to add - your original OP is all about adjusting your eating to allow you to eat an entire pizza. Some would argue that is just as bad as eating twinkies and doritos.
Many of us who count calories do the same thing - set and follow macros and adjust our eating to fit in what we like to eat as well.0 -
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fasted training is a personal choice. there are no major benefits of training fasted.. the whole fasted cardio thing that competitors LOVE is a myth - it doesn't make a difference!0
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I think you're on the wrong damn website if you disagree with counting calories... If you're just here to harass everyone who finds calorie counting effective then go away.0
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longlostyeti wrote: »People do ask when i eat 1 large whole pizza and still managed to stay lean? how the hell i do it? Its not a secret at all its just a mixture of Intermittent fasting/Fasted training/Weights. The way i do it when i know over the weekend im going to eat some copious amounts of food, i literally save all my Macros in the morning and only eat protein/veggies and watch my carbs and fat intake. Because you are saving that later in the day, that's how i am able to eat 1 large whole pizza or anything i like and still able to maintain and stay lean. Plus i only eat 2 large fulfilling meals, Try it and you will never go back to a traditional diet, but then again we are all different. It does not mean what works for me will work for you.
I'm glad you found something that works for you. Bad Things happen when I let myself get too hungry, so I don't do that. But there are many paths up the mountain and I realize what doesn't work for me does work for others.
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this blew up really fast lol but then again its my preference and working well for me. and all of your views are good points. And yes i know counting macros it is counting calories.0
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That's bananas!0
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Op, just do you. If eating a whole pizza helps with your goals, that's all that matters. However you get to your health goals is pointless as long as you get there. Have an extra pizza tonight to celebrate your own success. No one deserves it more than you. Add 20 wings just for the heck of it too.0
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Shaking my head at OP who clearly claims to know so much and still confuses BMR with TDEE.
Shaking my head at all the poster than can eat a whole pizza in one setting, plus everything else. @rabbitjb how can you eat that much, don't you get sick? (honest question and not judging)0 -
I'm shaking my head at an OP who is basically following a loose version of IIFYM and yet thinks that this is somehow different than, or superior to, counting calories. Also shaking my head at the premise that anyone who is counting calories is either eating nothing but Doritos and Twinkies, OR that they are following such a restrictive diet that they will eventually end up binging.
OP you seem to have a lot of preconceived negative notions about what it means to count calories. If I were you I would spend some time reading the helpful posts at the top of the forum sections...0 -
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
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It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
But that's a small pizza, not a large one. I've had a bunch of pizzas like this too... But I don't think they are more than 900-1000 calories as they are pretty light on the toppings (and delicious!). A large cheese pizza in most places is like 2300 calories... which I guess I could fit if I didn't eat anything else that day and had a good workout... but that doesn't even sound remotely tempting.0 -
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
But that's a small pizza, not a large one. I've had a bunch of pizzas like this too... But I don't think they are more than 900-1000 calories as they are pretty light on the toppings (and delicious!). A large cheese pizza in most places is like 2300 calories... which I guess I could fit if I didn't eat anything else that day and had a good workout... but that doesn't even sound remotely tempting.
In England we don't unnecessarily supersize much food ...to me that's a regular pizza 0 -
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
Great looking pizza rabbit. If you ever make it to Rome, let me know and I'll direct you to a fantastic pizza place (or two, or three).
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It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
But that's a small pizza, not a large one. I've had a bunch of pizzas like this too... But I don't think they are more than 900-1000 calories as they are pretty light on the toppings (and delicious!). A large cheese pizza in most places is like 2300 calories... which I guess I could fit if I didn't eat anything else that day and had a good workout... but that doesn't even sound remotely tempting.
In England we don't unnecessarily supersize much food ...to me that's a regular pizza
Yeah I know, that's the normal size in France too!0 -
I'm surprised you can't eat a pizza in one sitting. I'm not a big eater and I can.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
I'm surprised you can't eat a pizza in one sitting. I'm not a big eater and I can.
In the US a large pizza is 14 inches and 2300+ calories.
There are 16+ inches pizzas too...0 -
http://www.blazepizza.com/ I could eat a basic pizza from here maybe 2-3 times a week and fit it in. I custom build it with loads of veggies and maybe some ham. About 750 calories for the whole thing. So filling.0
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snowflake954 wrote: »
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
Great looking pizza rabbit. If you ever make it to Rome, let me know and I'll direct you to a fantastic pizza place (or two, or three).
Deal
It's on the bucket list0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
I'm surprised you can't eat a pizza in one sitting. I'm not a big eater and I can.
In the US a large pizza is 14 inches and 2300+ calories.
There are 16+ inches pizzas too...
Yummy too.. I would have no problem sitting down eating one of these in a short period of time, heck throw in the garlic and cheese bread too.
And I would run afterwards, probably before too... I would not gain an ounce...
Is the OP for real?0 -
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
But that's a small pizza, not a large one. I've had a bunch of pizzas like this too... But I don't think they are more than 900-1000 calories as they are pretty light on the toppings (and delicious!). A large cheese pizza in most places is like 2300 calories... which I guess I could fit if I didn't eat anything else that day and had a good workout... but that doesn't even sound remotely tempting.
In England we don't unnecessarily supersize much food ...to me that's a regular pizza
Same here in Australia. Rabbits pizza would be classed as large here.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
I'm surprised you can't eat a pizza in one sitting. I'm not a big eater and I can.
In the US a large pizza is 14 inches and 2300+ calories.
There are 16+ inches pizzas too...
Holy crap! A large pepperoni pizza comes in at 1238 calories. Obviously way smaller than you guys, I couldn't eat a whole one though.0 -
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I ate a whole 14" pizza over the course of the weekend, it was dinner Friday, dinner Saturday and the last slice was a snack on Sunday. It was delicious. And also fit both my calories and macros. Seems a fairly sensible way to go to me, and no worries about binging or restriction. Oh, and there was nary a Dorito or Twinkie in sight. I did have ice cream though.0
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
I'm surprised you can't eat a pizza in one sitting. I'm not a big eater and I can.
Nope, I can't. Maybe two slices is my max, and it has to be very thin pizza; since I don't care much for pizza anyway, that amount it is enough. I only eat pizza maybe two or three times a year if my husband is really interested.0 -
It wasn't that much, well not to me anyway ...I like tasty food...breakfast, lunch with pudding, dinner and a couple of snacks? Is that a lot really
Also maybe my whole pizza, from a proper Italian restaurant is different to the size you would expect...mine fit on a dinner plate
This is a google shot from the restaurant but has a hand for perspective
But that's a small pizza, not a large one. I've had a bunch of pizzas like this too... But I don't think they are more than 900-1000 calories as they are pretty light on the toppings (and delicious!). A large cheese pizza in most places is like 2300 calories... which I guess I could fit if I didn't eat anything else that day and had a good workout... but that doesn't even sound remotely tempting.
In England we don't unnecessarily supersize much food ...to me that's a regular pizza
Yeah I know, that's the normal size in France too!
I don't know how you foreigners can get full on barbie sized food! 0
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