People That Think Low-Carb is Good For You are Wrong
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Whenever I say carbs, people automatically think ice cream, cookies, doughnuts, and stuff like that. No, I'm meaning to say vegetables and grains like broccoli, potatoes, spinach, rice, beans.
I ate those things in excess (within my caloric limits). Still have high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?0 -
Runfaster14 wrote: »Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.
Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.
Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.
Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".
ok then. Good luck with that. You don't get to decide what people decide to eat or not. It's not up to you. This is not a dictatorship of some 19 year old who just got all over-excited when he decided to go vegan yesterday. All you are doing is becoming that stereotype (while being grossly misinformed) of those obnoxious vegetarians or vegans that people hate.
This said from the person who has been a vegetarian almost as long as you have been alive. Focus on your own plate kiddo.
^^^^THIS!!
Thank you for pointing out the obvious! People like this make us vegans and vegetarians look bad.
You can -- and should, according to my doctor -- eat a balanced diet as a vegan/vegetarian. 0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Mediterranean diets typically include lean meats like fish, fat, and dairy...
Stop it with your logic. Not allowed in this thread.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
Are you under the impression that vegans eat nothing but fruits and vegetables?0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Mediterranean diets typically include lean meats like fish, fat, and dairy...
Not to mention the olive oil that is typically demonized by proponents of high carbohydrate plant-based diets.
I was in no one endorsing it, never said it was something healthy. All I said was better than the Western diet.
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janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Mediterranean diets typically include lean meats like fish, fat, and dairy...
Not to mention the olive oil that is typically demonized by proponents of high carbohydrate plant-based diets.
I was in no one endorsing it, never said it was something healthy. All I said was better than the Western diet.
If it isn't healthy, why did you say it was the kind of place you'd like to live?0 -
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Mediterranean diets typically include lean meats like fish, fat, and dairy...
Yup--ate a porkchop tonight--oops, not supposed to tell. We eat a little of everything. Quality is the key word here, it doesn't matter if it's carbs or meat.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
Are you under the impression that vegans eat nothing but fruits and vegetables?
And broccoli grains0 -
chunky_pinup wrote: »I would like to apologize for this fool on behalf of all the sane vegans of the world.
THANK YOU!!!!!0 -
Runfaster14 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
Get your blood work done, keep eating the way you are now and get it done again in one year. Then we will see who's life expectancy is longer.
By the way you're looking, probably mine.
mmm gonna have to call bs on that one... have you seen that girl!?!? good lawd
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LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
Are you under the impression that vegans eat nothing but fruits and vegetables?
I'm simply asking a question as to why she has high cholesterol?0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Bunch of moderators defending low carb and keto
Ya gotta laugh
I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but this is what struck me as hilarious... how many of the people who normally are moderation proponents in the LCHF threads, are defending LC and ketogenic diets in the face of someone so extreme...
OP I for one would just like to thank you for bringing so many of us together. Now who is going to lead us in a round of Kumbaya...
That is.. If you have the energy to get up and do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsa05Os3ss
Bahahahahahahahahaa! hahahahaha.
OMG this is precious. Thanks so much for sharing.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
Are you under the impression that vegans eat nothing but fruits and vegetables?
I'm simply asking a question as to why she has high cholesterol?
Okay, but you didn't answer my question.0 -
Even in my mid 30's i'm still learning new things about my nutrition and training every year. by the time I figure it all out, I'll be too efing old to lift. But you figured it all out before it was too late. You're a winner. I don't know what the **** you're selling but I'll take two.0
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Just when you think you've heard it all.
Still in it for entertainment value... getting out the popcorn now...
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LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
The usual.
You put forth the scenario. You don't get to move the goal posts. Please and thank you, why do I have high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder from following the diet you claim leads to only perfect health and no death?0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Me, too. All that authentic gelato and lasagne. And all the great cheeses, olives, and oils. Yummy! Thanks, Italy!0 -
Man, people will say anything to stand by their fats and meats. Read up on Dr. McDougall's studies and what he found with meat, dairy, and eggs. Higher Cholesterol will literally give you a higher chance in being diagnosed with heart disease. Meat, dairy, and eggs have high cholesterol, its facts.
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LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
The usual.
You put forth the scenario. You don't get to move the goal posts. Please and thank you, why do I have high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder from following the diet you claim leads to only perfect health and no death?
You probably did not eat the right things outside of fruits and veggies.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
The usual.
You put forth the scenario. You don't get to move the goal posts. Please and thank you, why do I have high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder from following the diet you claim leads to only perfect health and no death?
You probably did not eat the right things outside of fruits and veggies.
Yeah. She totes didn't eat enough cereal.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--where did your diary go? I wanted to learn to eat correctly by following your example. Sigh.
He locked it after we saw that he eats little more than cereal.
Let's see yours
MINE is always open--I have nothing to hide.
Tbh, not as bad as some people's I've seen. Liking the carb intake, like pasta and such.
I live in Italy, dear.
That's the kind of place I want to live. Mediterranean diets are much better than this Western diet everyone is so caught up on.
Mediterranean diets typically include lean meats like fish, fat, and dairy...
Not to mention the olive oil that is typically demonized by proponents of high carbohydrate plant-based diets.
I was in no one endorsing it, never said it was something healthy. All I said was better than the Western diet.
So despite a lot of science based evidence holding the Mediterranean style diet up as healthy, because it is doesn't fit with exact ideals you have decided that it is unhealthy?
OP you will find most people here are willing to have a rational discussion about different dietary ideas but you have to get your head around the rational bit before that happens!0 -
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This is an excellent poe.
Big thumbs up to OP
8 pages so quickly!
Hats off to you.0 -
I feel so enlightened!0
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Last_mango_in_paradise wrote: »Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.
Ohhhh. So because you said we have to be a vegan/vegetarian we all now must jump on the bandwagon?
Sorry but I'd rather eat steak, bacon, ribs and burgers and still live life to the fullest.
Oh and FYI: you can get high cholesterol on your vegan/vegetarian diet. It has nothing to do with eating meat. A lot of people with high cholesterol have it because of their genetics, not their diet. And also, just because your TOTAL cholesterol numbers are high doesn't mean squat. The LDL/HDL/Tri's are what you should be looking at. If those are in check then there's no issue.
Steak, bacon, ribs, and burgers have ungodly amounts of fats and high cholesterol levels. That can lead to heart disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17364116
So there's this thing called "moderation." Perhaps you've heard of it?
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juggernaut1974 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »
Just trying to prolong it bud.
So ... are you going to explain how my vegetarian, high in fruits and veggies diet led to my high cholesterol and an autoimmune disorder or are you just going to ignore that?
You said "vegetarian", what else were you eating besides fruits and veggies?
Your original post specified vegan or vegetarian. I was vegetarian. Please explain. I ate no meat (including fish). I was a true vegetarian.
What else did you eat besides fruit and veggies?
Are you under the impression that vegans eat nothing but fruits and vegetables?
And broccoli grains
This right here had me tearing up!!! Oh, those broccoli grains.
Wait.... Is that a GMO?0 -
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