If I hear Oprah say she loves bread one more time.....
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blues4miles wrote: »
Well, I am only like 16 lbs down from my heaviest weight ever. Which was 30 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. Which was 20 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. etc. So not gonna judge her for regaining. True, I don't do anything 'extreme' but even doing things the 'right' way several times, well, here I am again. I gotta respect her professional rise from nothing to media mogul, empress, and great success. Sure not for everyone, but I feel like she takes a lot more crap than a lot of guys who came from better circumstances and made less.
I don't have a problem with her regaining. That's human. Even with the money to buy her own chef and trainer, she still has to have the willpower to say "no" to any food that crosses her outside of those two sources - and as a former binge eater, I also understand how that can be difficult, even being the richest of the rich.
But I do have a problem with her purporting to find "the one, true answer to weight loss" every time she's down 10 or 20 lbs. When she goes back up, that really hurts the credibility of the program, and yet, the next time she finds some new bandwagon to jump on, millions of women follow her. One would think people would begin looking at her track record of success and stop buying whatever she happens to be selling on that particular day, but that doesn't happen.
I also have a problem with her giving Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz a platform to stand on. Seriously, people should stop looking at that woman like an expert for anything physical or mental health related.
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ManiacalLaugh wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »
Well, I am only like 16 lbs down from my heaviest weight ever. Which was 30 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. Which was 20 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. etc. So not gonna judge her for regaining. True, I don't do anything 'extreme' but even doing things the 'right' way several times, well, here I am again. I gotta respect her professional rise from nothing to media mogul, empress, and great success. Sure not for everyone, but I feel like she takes a lot more crap than a lot of guys who came from better circumstances and made less.
I don't have a problem with her regaining. That's human. Even with the money to buy her own chef and trainer, she still has to have the willpower to say "no" to any food that crosses her outside of those two sources - and as a former binge eater, I also understand how that can be difficult, even being the richest of the rich.
But I do have a problem with her purporting to find "the one, true answer to weight loss" every time she's down 10 or 20 lbs. When she goes back up, that really hurts the credibility of the program, and yet, the next time she finds some new bandwagon to jump on, millions of women follow her. One would think people would begin looking at her track record of success and stop buying whatever she happens to be selling on that particular day, but that doesn't happen.
I also have a problem with her giving Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz a platform to stand on. Seriously, people should stop looking at that woman like an expert for anything physical or mental health related.
Yeah, I think it's clear at this point that Oprah (like many of us) is great at finding weight loss methods that get results. She's fantastic at losing weight. This issue is sustaining it and there is no evidence (yet) that she will find WW easier to maintain that anything else she has tried over the decades.0 -
She owns 10 percent of ww now. She has tripled their stock. She has resuscitate this company that was on verge of bankruptcy. She is one of the worlds most influential women. After the first commercial came out ( not the bread one ) how many joined? A lot!
And I thought well that commercial was stupid, you can sway the world with words and that's what you say? I lost 25 lbs eating bread! ( smells like a food lobby ploy to me)0 -
There is a good reason why WW is in trouble. It's expensive, for starters. Secondly, they are always reinventing the wheel and changing the weight loss matrix. Thirdly, there were always long lines to weigh in, and the "weighers" always had to chit chat. The lecture usually started shortly after folks started weighing in, and you were either getting interrupted because new folks were just coming into the room, or you were coming in halfway through the lecture. It can and does work for some people, but I got tired of it. I, personally, don't do well weighing in every week. It messes with my head. I get better results weighing in once a month with my nutritionist.0
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »if she loves bread so much maybe she should become the next subway spokesperson since jared wont be doing it ever again. well at least not on the outside
But he'll still get plenty of footlongs.
oh yeah he will
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I used to love bread, too, when I thought it was "free" but couldn't figure out why my pants didn't fit. Ever since I joined MFP, bread has definitely lost it's allure. I still have it, but I'm much pickier about it because it tends to be high in calories and don't fill me up as much as other foods I can eat for the same calories. So you can have bread once in a while? Yes, we already know that, don't we?0
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I used to love bread, too, when I thought it was "free" but couldn't figure out why my pants didn't fit. Ever since I joined MFP, bread has definitely lost it's allure. I still have it, but I'm much pickier about it because it tends to be high in calories and don't fill me up as much as other foods I can eat for the same calories. So you can have bread once in a while? Yes, we already know that, don't we?
You can have bread daily if you want it. You might not have something else as often, but you can lose/maintain weight while eating bread daily.0 -
I don't think she does that. I'm no expert on her but I don't recall her recommending any diets in the last 30 years besides sharing her own Optifast experience, following trainer Bob Greene and now WW. But when she reads a new book, millions of women read it, mentions a new perfume, etc., etc. They even named it-- the Oprah Effect.ManiacalLaugh wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »
Well, I am only like 16 lbs down from my heaviest weight ever. Which was 30 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. Which was 20 lbs up from my heaviest weight before that. etc. So not gonna judge her for regaining. True, I don't do anything 'extreme' but even doing things the 'right' way several times, well, here I am again. I gotta respect her professional rise from nothing to media mogul, empress, and great success. Sure not for everyone, but I feel like she takes a lot more crap than a lot of guys who came from better circumstances and made less.
I don't have a problem with her regaining. That's human. Even with the money to buy her own chef and trainer, she still has to have the willpower to say "no" to any food that crosses her outside of those two sources - and as a former binge eater, I also understand how that can be difficult, even being the richest of the rich.
But I do have a problem with her purporting to find "the one, true answer to weight loss" every time she's down 10 or 20 lbs. When she goes back up, that really hurts the credibility of the program, and yet, the next time she finds some new bandwagon to jump on, millions of women follow her. One would think people would begin looking at her track record of success and stop buying whatever she happens to be selling on that particular day, but that doesn't happen.
I also have a problem with her giving Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz a platform to stand on. Seriously, people should stop looking at that woman like an expert for anything physical or mental health related.
That footage of her running with a bad sports bra is old footage. The whole commercial is made up of old footage. It's supposed to be a look back at her struggles. She since found and recommended the Enell sports bras, and of course millions of women bought them.
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vivmom2014 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »From this thread:
I have learned about Twix ice cream bars (so excited)
I have been reminded of the musical memories of Bread (wonderful)
I have come to the conclusion that people without TV have less dislike for Oprah than those who do have TV (also no TV here, so I haven't seen the commercials)
Did I miss anything?
Yes. Oprah needs a sports bra.
Thank you! I felt I was leaving something out
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nutmegoreo wrote: »vivmom2014 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »From this thread:
I have learned about Twix ice cream bars (so excited)
I have been reminded of the musical memories of Bread (wonderful)
I have come to the conclusion that people without TV have less dislike for Oprah than those who do have TV (also no TV here, so I haven't seen the commercials)
Did I miss anything?
Yes. Oprah needs a sports bra.
Thank you! I felt I was leaving something out
So was Oprah.
Anyone having flashbacks to her first huge weight loss and how she pulled a red wagon full of meat on stage?
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so ... um ... does WW have a maintenance program (as that appears to be O's problem)?0
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I'm sure this is the 10th time she finally realized it....Lasmartchika wrote: »Hey she finally realized it's ok to eat bread and still be able to lose weight. Good for her!! :drinker:
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There is a good reason why WW is in trouble. It's expensive, for starters. Secondly, they are always reinventing the wheel and changing the weight loss matrix. Thirdly, there were always long lines to weigh in, and the "weighers" always had to chit chat. The lecture usually started shortly after folks started weighing in, and you were either getting interrupted because new folks were just coming into the room, or you were coming in halfway through the lecture. It can and does work for some people, but I got tired of it. I, personally, don't do well weighing in every week. It messes with my head. I get better results weighing in once a month with my nutritionist.
I think sites/apps like MFP have a lot to do with it as well. Why pay a lot of money for something that you can get for free elsewhere?0 -
It's a great business model, advertise that nothing has to be given up or changed..apparently it is what some people want to hear...eat the foods you most love but just control the portion sizes, and have bread everyday.0
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nutmegoreo wrote: »vivmom2014 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »From this thread:
I have learned about Twix ice cream bars (so excited)
I have been reminded of the musical memories of Bread (wonderful)
I have come to the conclusion that people without TV have less dislike for Oprah than those who do have TV (also no TV here, so I haven't seen the commercials)
Did I miss anything?
Yes. Oprah needs a sports bra.
Thank you! I felt I was leaving something out
So was Oprah.
Anyone having flashbacks to her first huge weight loss and how she pulled a red wagon full of meat on stage?
Agh! I feel so unsupported :laugh:0 -
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That footage of her running with a bad sports bra is old footage. The whole commercial is made up of old footage. It's supposed to be a look back at her struggles. She since found and recommended the Enell sports bras, and of course millions of women bought them.
Well yes, but in Enell's defense, they are AWESOME bras... I won't even get on a horse without one anymore. I didn't know she had endorsed them till i'd been using them a year though!
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I LOVE BREAD!!!! I love bread!!! Did you know that I LOVE BREAD!!! Um Bread.. Yum Bread.. BREAD BREAD BREAD0
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I hear you on this.. lolsongbird13291 wrote: »And yeah, the fact that Oprah I now their spokesperson is yet another reason I'm glad I quit WW.
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I hate to hear Oprah say anything. Ironic that she has made her fortune telling the rest of us how to live our lives, yet she can't get a handle on her own demons.0
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Weight watchers, slimming world!! Give me your money and I'll tell you what you can't eat arghhh.. It's money for old rope. Just get into the plan, then they change the bloody plan!!! More arghhh!!! Calories, plain and simple calories.
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I also have a problem with her giving Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz a platform to stand on. Seriously, people should stop looking at that woman like an expert for anything physical or mental health related.
You are right I forgot that that's where those two clowns got their start. I don't think people are looking to Oprah as a psychological or medical expert. However, bringing Dr Oz into the limelight feels like a pretty bad sin.It's a great business model, advertise that nothing has to be given up or changed..apparently it is what some people want to hear...eat the foods you most love but just control the portion sizes, and have bread everyday.
I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. That's why we're all here, right? I'm not "giving up" any foods. If I wanna eat bread or ice cream or octopus every day I'm gonna.The high fiber ones are GREAT. I prefer them over the others. They are also marked "Light," though I'm not sure why.
Thanks you've sold me. Definitely gonna find these next time I'm at the grocery store.0 -
Can I take this opportunity to ask if it's bread, magic, dermatology, plastic surgery, or all of the above that makes her skin so freakishly good for her age? Is she bathing in unicorn blood or sacrificing loaves of sourdough under a gibbous moon?0
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OMG - I HATE those commercials!!!! I'm like "uh-huh....I eat bread too. So do thousands of other people." Like someone else said - um yeah - let's pick someone almost known as much for her yo-yo dieting as her media empire - alrighty then. And the first commercial? Counting points is like a game??? ReALLY??? It so the F*** is NOT!!! I DUNNO about anyone else, but my weight loss is not like a game. Maybe other people look at it that way, but I don't. Yeah - I know - lighten up Francis....
Ugh - just not liking the commercials at all. Not inspired much at all by it.0 -
They could have picked someone so much better to be their representative. Someone who publicly lost a lot of weight and is keeping it off, like maybe Melissa Mccarthy. Have you seen her lately? She has made such a transformation! It's almost like some weight watchers executive's pitch was,"Well it's Oprah and women do whatever she says so it's a no brainer"! Right.0
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I really really really hate that commercial. Every time it comes on I yell at the TV "Shut up Oprah!!!" She is a yo yo dieter and what she says IS NOT the gospel contrary to what most think!
I don't hate Oprah but I don't listen to her in regards to losing weight.0 -
70's Bread and Doritos all blast's from the past. I think Doritos were created in the 70's.0
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I wish Oprah the best of luck in trying to lose weight and find a healthy balance in life 0
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What I'm confused about is that from what I hear, the new WW program actually makes it near impossible to indulge and makes it so you are only supposed to eat stereotypically "healthy" foods... So not promoting eating everything in moderation, but only eating the things WW wants you to eat.0
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