Diet Coke vs Water??-- 0 cals vs 0 cals
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faithsstaircase wrote: »I posted this on another thread and it wasn't super popular, but I'll post it here too. I went from drinking 64 ounces of diet coke a day to drinking 1/4 of that a day at most and the rest water and I dropped 6 lbs in a week.
My thought - if you really want to know if diet coke has an effect on your weight loss or not, do a little experiment. Track your food intake for a week with diet coke as your drink of choice, then the following week reduce it and drink water and diary the results. If you feel no different, see no difference, then hey, you're lucky enough to get to drink as much diet coke as you want to without it affecting you.
Only you know what's right for your body. For me, diet coke makes me crave sweets, so I don't drink it nearly as much as I used to. But damn, it's so gooood.
Correlation does not equal causation. There's no way you dropped 6 pounds of fat in a week by removing a zero-calorie drink.
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Oh boy, you're one of those.
I reduced my intake of diet coke and started drinking more water *which caused me to stop craving sweets as much* which reduced my calorie intake and caused me to have better energy, which caused me to drop six pounds in a week.
Once again, as I stress in pretty much all of my posts, what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. There's no magical formula. If there was, none of us would be here. Do what's right FOR YOU based off your gut feeling and your information gathering.0 -
I quit drinking diet coke because it was causing bloating and migraines...if it doesn't for you, by all means keep drinking it. I will always miss it but it's not worth it. I splurge and have a regular coke once in awhile.0
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faithsstaircase wrote: »Oh boy, you're one of those. Ok let me try this again for those of you who can't put two and two together.
I reduced my intake of diet coke and started drinking more water *which caused me to stop craving sweets as much* which reduced my calorie intake and caused me to have better energy, which caused me to drop six pounds in a week.
Once again, as I stress in pretty much all of my posts, what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. There's no magical formula. If there was, none of us would be here. Do what's right FOR YOU based off your gut feeling and your information gathering.
so you removed calorie dense foods and dropped weight? Great..
diet coke had nothing to do with it0 -
faithsstaircase wrote: »Oh boy, you're one of those. Ok let me try this again for those of you who can't put two and two together.
I reduced my intake of diet coke and started drinking more water *which caused me to stop craving sweets as much* which reduced my calorie intake and caused me to have better energy, which caused me to drop six pounds in a week.
Once again, as I stress in pretty much all of my posts, what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. There's no magical formula. If there was, none of us would be here. Do what's right FOR YOU based off your gut feeling and your information gathering.
But that is not what you said in your previous post.0 -
faithsstaircase wrote: »Oh boy, you're one of those. Ok let me try this again for those of you who can't put two and two together.
I reduced my intake of diet coke and started drinking more water *which caused me to stop craving sweets as much* which reduced my calorie intake and caused me to have better energy, which caused me to drop six pounds in a week.
Once again, as I stress in pretty much all of my posts, what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. There's no magical formula. If there was, none of us would be here. Do what's right FOR YOU based off your gut feeling and your information gathering.
so you removed calorie dense foods and dropped weight? Great..
diet coke had nothing to do with it
I quit drinking diet coke and since I always bought it at McDonalds I quit eating burgers and fries every meal. I lost so much weight. Quitting diet coke worked for me.0 -
If diet coke causes you problems (headaches, bloating, cravings, etc) then you should probably consider cutting it out of your diet. I think that's been said a dozen times in this thread and those defending diet soda haven't disputed it. But apparently it needs to be said again.0
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PatrickCahill1 wrote: »In terms of raw calories- yes. Having said that, the sweeteners in pretty much every diet soda sold in the USA and UK are recognised by your body as a sugar (although one that your body can't metabolise), which still triggers a release of insulin which can cause weight gain from other food and drink you've had. On top of that, caffeine can seriously disrupt your circadian rhythm which will alter energy levels and when you're likely to put on weight.
TL/DR: just drink water instead, you'll lose more weight that way.
I'm pretty sure the digestive system recognizes the components of food, and not just the sweet taste.
Aspartame is made up of 2 amino acids - the body knows how to break those down. After all, it does it on a regular basis when those aa's are in other foods.
And regarding Stevia as being better because it's "more natural" -- how do you account for all the processing required in order for that plant to be considered safe for use?? Last I saw, the raw, base plant is not considered safe and cannot legally be used in any food products.0 -
faithsstaircase wrote: »Oh boy, you're one of those. Ok let me try this again for those of you who can't put two and two together.
I reduced my intake of diet coke and started drinking more water *which caused me to stop craving sweets as much* which reduced my calorie intake and caused me to have better energy, which caused me to drop six pounds in a week.
Once again, as I stress in pretty much all of my posts, what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for another. There's no magical formula. If there was, none of us would be here. Do what's right FOR YOU based off your gut feeling and your information gathering.
It wasn't at all clear from your post that you were saying the reason for your weight loss was the reduction in sweets (calorie dense foods) versus the diet soda. Congrats on your weight loss and finding a way to manage your calorie intake.0 -
Drink water!
Sure, drink water. Oh, and other drinks, including diet soda, if you enjoy them. I'm drinking coffee right now, but it doesn't mean I don't also drink water.Diet drinks have artificial sweetners and makes your body crave more and more.
Nothing terrible about artificial sweeteners, and they absolutely do not make my body crave more and more. If that's so for you, act accordingly, but don't insist it's true for others.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »PatrickCahill1 wrote: »In terms of raw calories- yes. Having said that, the sweeteners in pretty much every diet soda sold in the USA and UK are recognised by your body as a sugar (although one that your body can't metabolise), which still triggers a release of insulin which can cause weight gain from other food and drink you've had. On top of that, caffeine can seriously disrupt your circadian rhythm which will alter energy levels and when you're likely to put on weight.
TL/DR: just drink water instead, you'll lose more weight that way.
If this were so, nobody who drinks coffee or tea or ordinary soda would lose weight - which clearly isn't so..
However if one is affected by caffeine and wants to avoid it, one could still drink diet sodas - just like regular sodas, it is only the cola ones that have caffeine.
Diet lemon etc do not, just like regular lemon etc do not.
Your logic and common sense is not welcome here...
Sorry,Miss.
Artificial sweeteners!!!!!
Caffeine!!!!!!
Oh no oh no panic panic all gonna get fat and die
Is that better?
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paperpudding wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »PatrickCahill1 wrote: »In terms of raw calories- yes. Having said that, the sweeteners in pretty much every diet soda sold in the USA and UK are recognised by your body as a sugar (although one that your body can't metabolise), which still triggers a release of insulin which can cause weight gain from other food and drink you've had. On top of that, caffeine can seriously disrupt your circadian rhythm which will alter energy levels and when you're likely to put on weight.
TL/DR: just drink water instead, you'll lose more weight that way.
If this were so, nobody who drinks coffee or tea or ordinary soda would lose weight - which clearly isn't so..
However if one is affected by caffeine and wants to avoid it, one could still drink diet sodas - just like regular sodas, it is only the cola ones that have caffeine.
Diet lemon etc do not, just like regular lemon etc do not.
Your logic and common sense is not welcome here...
Sorry,Miss.
Artificial sweeteners!!!!!
Caffeine!!!!!!
Oh no oh no panic panic all gonna get fat and die
Is that better?
Much.
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FunkyTobias wrote: »For calorie counting purposes I count them both as 0, but I don't count soda towards my water intake. I feel pretty confident saying that the two clearly do not have the same effect on your body, but everything in moderation and all that. I drink diet soda a couple of times a week. In a perfect world I'd drink it less but my diet is far from perfect.
What "different effects" do you imagine they have (apart from caffeine)
I get bad heart burn when I drink too much soda. I used to sometimes get it from other things but diet soda was by far the biggest individual culprit. It also makes me sluggish and I always want to kick myself when I drink too much of it when I'm going to the gym later.
I'm sure all artificial sweeteners have some problematic effects and I know it wouldn't kill me to stop putting Splenda in my coffee. But I think with soda it's more about the acid or carbonation because I don't have the same problem with Splenda or sweeteners in other situations that I've had with diet soda.
That said... I still drink it sometimes. I'm not disciplined or motivated enough to really be good at the whole clean eating thing.
I used to drink diet soda all the time. Then I started to notice I was getting heartburn more and more often. When I got serious about losing weight in Feb. I switched to mainly water. No more heartburn. I like Sprite Zero and I think it might have been the citric acid that was causing it. Sometimes I still drink it late at night when I'm out of calories and the cookies I make the kids are crying out for me to eat them, lol.0 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Comparing calories to calories = 0 it's all the same. Just don't do too much googling on the artificial sweetener in the Diet Coke. That will scare you.
Please do do your homework. Such a single mind of weight loss without consideration of healthy lifestyle change (that is Worth sustaining) will have failures that can be devastating. Other than nerve damage, mood swings, cravings, and messed up insulin/hormone regulation...diet soda leads to destruction all the same! Use diet soda as a tool...a baby step to natural water.
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bodybuildchic32 wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Comparing calories to calories = 0 it's all the same. Just don't do too much googling on the artificial sweetener in the Diet Coke. That will scare you.
Please do do your homework. Such a single mind of weight loss without consideration of healthy lifestyle change (that is Worth sustaining) will have failures that can be devastating. Other than nerve damage, mood swings, cravings, and messed up insulin/hormone regulation...diet soda leads to destruction all the same! Use diet soda as a tool...a baby step to natural water.
Care to share some links to scientific studies which back up all that fearmongering?0 -
bodybuildchic32 wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Comparing calories to calories = 0 it's all the same. Just don't do too much googling on the artificial sweetener in the Diet Coke. That will scare you.
Please do do your homework. Such a single mind of weight loss without consideration of healthy lifestyle change (that is Worth sustaining) will have failures that can be devastating. Other than nerve damage, mood swings, cravings, and messed up insulin/hormone regulation...diet soda leads to destruction all the same! Use diet soda as a tool...a baby step to natural water.
Oh dear.
I don't need a tool or a baby step to natural water - I drink plenty of natural water. Every single day.
However I also sometimes drink Pepsi max or coke zero.( and coffee and apple juice and wine and....)
You know, one can have a variety of drinks, just like one has a variety of food.
Just like I don't eat, say, chocolate as a baby step tool to carrots.
I can have both,at different times - (and in sensible portion amounts, of course)
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bodybuildchic32 wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Comparing calories to calories = 0 it's all the same. Just don't do too much googling on the artificial sweetener in the Diet Coke. That will scare you.
Please do do your homework. Such a single mind of weight loss without consideration of healthy lifestyle change (that is Worth sustaining) will have failures that can be devastating. Other than nerve damage, mood swings, cravings, and messed up insulin/hormone regulation...diet soda leads to destruction all the same! Use diet soda as a tool...a baby step to natural water.
Care to share some links to scientific studies which back up all that fearmongering?
Probably an email she got in the 90s that starts with FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »KimberlynMcConville wrote: »Although they both offer zero calories, water will always be the healthier alternative. Try to get in the habit of only drinking water!!
Citation needed
Common Sense, Page 1/i]
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
Having just spent two separate lunch breaks reading through this entire thread, and seeing all of the 'Diet Cancer' posts, my bet is no.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »PatrickCahill1 wrote: »In terms of raw calories- yes. Having said that, the sweeteners in pretty much every diet soda sold in the USA and UK are recognised by your body as a sugar (although one that your body can't metabolise), which still triggers a release of insulin which can cause weight gain from other food and drink you've had. On top of that, caffeine can seriously disrupt your circadian rhythm which will alter energy levels and when you're likely to put on weight.
TL/DR: just drink water instead, you'll lose more weight that way.
If this were so, nobody who drinks coffee or tea or ordinary soda would lose weight - which clearly isn't so..
However if one is affected by caffeine and wants to avoid it, one could still drink diet sodas - just like regular sodas, it is only the cola ones that have caffeine.
Diet lemon etc do not, just like regular lemon etc do not.
Your logic and common sense is not welcome here...
Sorry,Miss.
Artificial sweeteners!!!!!
Caffeine!!!!!!
Oh no oh no panic panic all gonna get fat and die
Is that better?
But what's gonna be the cause, the diabetes or the cancer that Diet soda causes?!?0
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