Do you eat the calories you are burning from exercise?
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biggsterjackster wrote: »
I just go for the number on the scale. Working to build muscle back later.biggsterjackster wrote: »No, cause I want to lose weight fast.
There's one big trade-off with fast weight loss.........
Do you want fat loss....or just a number on the scale? Moderate paced weight loss supports existing lean muscle mass. This is WHY MFP gives you back exercise calories. Google skinny-fat, only the scale looks good.
You're probably young, but I gotta say for others' consideration: For us middle-aged & older women, this can be a quicker ticket to assisted living. Don't wanna go there.0 -
biggsterjackster wrote: »
I just go for the number on the scale. Working to build muscle back later.biggsterjackster wrote: »No, cause I want to lose weight fast.
There's one big trade-off with fast weight loss.........
Do you want fat loss....or just a number on the scale? Moderate paced weight loss supports existing lean muscle mass. This is WHY MFP gives you back exercise calories. Google skinny-fat, only the scale looks good.
You're probably young, but I gotta say for others' consideration: For us middle-aged & older women, this can be a quicker ticket to assisted living. Don't wanna go there.
I wish, no, 46, middle aged and in great health. But thanks for the concerns and great advices.0 -
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I eat back some of my calories if I feel like I need to. I don't usually feel like I need to.
I use cardio as a tool for heart health, not for weight loss.0 -
The only reason I do cardio is so I can eat more food while in a deficit. I can almost double my daily calorie allowance on the days when I do my longest runs.0
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No. I do not lose weight when I eat them back, despite having properly set up my account.0
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No. I do not lose weight when I eat them back, despite having properly set up my account.
You may be overestimating your burns in that case. MFP's calorie allowance is based on your activity level before exercise. If you stop losing weight when eating back your exercise calories, that means you are eating both the exercise calories and the calorie deficit MFP has calculated for you. Try eating back half your exercise calories, especially if you're using MFP to calculate how much you burn with exercise.0 -
middlehaitch wrote: »I bank calories, too. Of course, sometimes, like tonight, things happen, like, you know, opening my oven and finding a rat,ElizabethOakes2 wrote: »It must be the night for it. My cat,that never hunts, just brought in a rodent. I had to chase out of the house at 3am!!
Cheers, h.
I had to comment because I both would find rats in places, like, oh, dead in my toilet (imagine getting up at 3:00 a.m. to pee and finding that waiting for you. Yeah.) or living in my kid's dresser drawer, where it would store food that it stole off of my counter that day. And I had a cat that not only hunted, it would bring me the dead thing's skin, splayed out like a barbie doll house carpet, right on my counter top. My cat could have been a surgeon, it was so precise. I'm not kidding. I do NOT miss living in an old country farm house on a riverbank. At all. LOL Today, I just have to deal with gigantic palmetto bugs creeping around at night. (Just a fancy name for huge cockroach that flies.)
Back on topic, though, I only eat my exercise calories back if I do more than 3 miles. Pretty much my only form of exercise at the moment is on my treadmill, and I can either do a couple leisurely miles or some intense uphill, fast walking. Depending on what I do dictates whether I eat them back or not. I've done 3 moderate miles so far today. I probably will not eat them back.0 -
MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.0 -
Darned tootin' I do. No way I could not be hungry on my maintenance if I suddenly broke both my legs and couldn't walk anymore for exercise (which would probably be about 1200 or 1300 calories).0
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MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I would go to IIFYM website and use the TDEE/IIFYM calculator and go from those numbers.0 -
MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I'm pretty sure he's saying that the MFP calorie calculation does not include exercise calories. I've seen him advocating using the TDEE method, which is a model that factors in your exercise activity, so you don't eat your calories back (as they are already included in your calorie goal). It's just a different way to get to the same place.0 -
MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I would go to IIFYM website and use the TDEE/IIFYM calculator and go from those numbers.
This always cracks me up because TDEE and eating exercise calories back are pretty much just different ways of doing the same thing.0 -
MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I would go to IIFYM website and use the TDEE/IIFYM calculator and go from those numbers.
This always cracks me up because TDEE and eating exercise calories back are pretty much just different ways of doing the same thing.
Except most people who take lifting serious/contest preps use TDEE methods. MFP exercise calorie burns are always inflated as well.0 -
MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I would go to IIFYM website and use the TDEE/IIFYM calculator and go from those numbers.
You realize TDEE is just a different way to eat back exercise calories, right?0 -
It's garbage jane0
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MFP isn't where I would gather my deficit from in the first place.
I'm not sure if you are trying to be helpful or not. Please explain in your own words why you insist that MFP is not the right way for people to lose weight. And if you think it's wrong, perhaps this isn't the place for comments that might derail other people's progress. Overall, some are losing when eating back all their exercise calories, some eat back a percentage and lose, some don't eat back any and lose. Whatever works for each person.
I would go to IIFYM website and use the TDEE/IIFYM calculator and go from those numbers.
This always cracks me up because TDEE and eating exercise calories back are pretty much just different ways of doing the same thing.
Except most people who take lifting serious/contest preps use TDEE methods
Most people who are asking this type of question just need to use Myfitnesspal like it is designed. Not everyone here are serious lifters or contest prepping. There are special interest groups for that (both here and elsewhere.) Maybe learn about the Mifflin-St. Jeor calculations that this site uses. It is much more flexible for lifestyles that aren't rigidly trying to achieve some technical goal.
If all you have is a hammer...
I always ate all my exercise calories. It works, it's simple and flexible.
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Eating back cals is just over-complicating things. Find TDEE and subtract 500 to lose weight. Das it mane. Like I said most people are getting bad info back from eating calories back because MFP caloric expenditure numbers are WRONG0
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biggsterjackster wrote: »
I just go for the number on the scale. Working to build muscle back later.biggsterjackster wrote: »No, cause I want to lose weight fast.
There's one big trade-off with fast weight loss.........
Do you want fat loss....or just a number on the scale? Moderate paced weight loss supports existing lean muscle mass. This is WHY MFP gives you back exercise calories. Google skinny-fat, only the scale looks good.
You're probably young, but I gotta say for others' consideration: For us middle-aged & older women, this can be a quicker ticket to assisted living. Don't wanna go there.
That's a big reason why I eat some exercise calories back: because with too big a deficit, I lose muscle. That happened to me last summer: I had lost 5.5 pounds over 6 weeks, but according to before-and-after DEXA scans, 3 of those pounds were muscle. Yikes! My net calories had been going as low as 1000 per day and could not do lower body lifting due to injuries.
1) Why lose weight through diet alone if I go from being a big dumpling to a small dumpling?
2) No way do I want to rely on a walker when I'm in my 70's (I'm 50).0 -
Eating back cals is just over-complicating things. Find TDEE and subtract 500 to lose weight. Das it mane. Like I said most people are getting bad info back from eating calories back because MFP caloric expenditure numbers are WRONG
Which is why you will frequently see the advice to eat back a *portion* of these calories to account for over-estimates, but not to scrap the entire concept of eating to fuel your activity.
If you find your TDEE, you still have to estimate your calorie burn. Either way, you're dealing with estimating calorie burn.0 -
I just think MFP is inferior. Sorry m8z. We will never agree.0
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Eating back cals is just over-complicating things. Find TDEE and subtract 500 to lose weight. Das it mane. Like I said most people are getting bad info back from eating calories back because MFP caloric expenditure numbers are WRONG
You're assuming that people are eating back 100% of their calories. You're assuming that people are using the MFP calorie burns instead of those from more reliable resources. You're assuming no one here has used TDEE in the past. People are correcting you and everyone, simply everyone, has shown you how both models end up at the same place when used appropriately. What more are you looking for?0 -
Eating back cals is just over-complicating things. Find TDEE and subtract 500 to lose weight. Das it mane. Like I said most people are getting bad info back from eating calories back because MFP caloric expenditure numbers are WRONG
But what if your exercise isn't consistent? And you have other ways of estimating calorie burn? You use estimates for both TDEE and eating exercise calories back and then adjust depending on your results. For both methods.
(I can't believe I let myself get sucked into this.)0 -
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biggsterjackster wrote: »
I just go for the number on the scale. Working to build muscle back later.biggsterjackster wrote: »No, cause I want to lose weight fast.
There's one big trade-off with fast weight loss.........
Do you want fat loss....or just a number on the scale? Moderate paced weight loss supports existing lean muscle mass. This is WHY MFP gives you back exercise calories. Google skinny-fat, only the scale looks good.
You're probably young, but I gotta say for others' consideration: For us middle-aged & older women, this can be a quicker ticket to assisted living. Don't wanna go there.
That's a big reason why I eat some exercise calories back: because with too big a deficit, I lose muscle. That happened to me last summer: I had lost 5.5 pounds over 6 weeks, but according to before-and-after DEXA scans, 3 of those pounds were muscle. Yikes! My net calories had been going as low as 1000 per day and could not do lower body lifting due to injuries.
1) Why lose weight through diet alone if I go from being a big dumpling to a small dumpling?
2) No way do I want to rely on a walker when I'm in my 70's (I'm 50).
Big dumpling to small dumpling.....that's perfect, I love it!
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I'm pretty sure one can be both.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »Eating back cals is just over-complicating things. Find TDEE and subtract 500 to lose weight. Das it mane. Like I said most people are getting bad info back from eating calories back because MFP caloric expenditure numbers are WRONG
You're assuming that people are eating back 100% of their calories. You're assuming that people are using the MFP calorie burns instead of those from more reliable resources. People are correcting you and everyone, simply everyone, has shown you how both models end up at the same place when used appropriately. What more are you looking for?
Because these people don't even know how many cals are in a gram of protein. How would they know that the mfp exercise cals are off. The thing is that they're off by a lot in most cases.0
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