Why are so many excluding milk from their diet?
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My husband is lactose intolerant and my kids are little enough that they are still on whole milk. Lactaid milk is super freakin sweet and I don't like it. Whole milk is too calorie dense and hard to fit in my alotment (especially when for the same amount of calories I can have a beer). I really just don't want to buy a 3rd type of milk (and I can't have the nut milks because of allergies). I do eat whole milk yogurt almost daily, though. I have noticed that if I over do it on yogurt or cheese I retain mad water for like 4 days. Not giving it up though.0
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I'm not excluding it but I rarely have it. I found I enjoy almond milk more and it makes me less gassy and bloated.0
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I haven't had cow's milk in 10 years. Only because when I was breastfeeding we found out my daughter was allergic to it. She's never had cow's milk. We've been fine without it. I now have PCOS and starting to cut other dairy products. We're fine without it. There are other sources for protein and calcium. ^_^0
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I drink milk and I lose weight. But my stomach is sensitive to texture so I usually have it as yogurt or Kefir.0
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CurlyCockney wrote: »I drink skimmed milk to add colour to tea or coffee, but I just wanted to comment regarding added sugars. I appreciate that many (most?) users of MFP are in North America, and your systems may be different, but in the UK sugar is not added as part of the skimming process.
No, it's absolutely not added to normal (non flavored) skim or low fat fat in the US either (and I am sure not in Canada). It's something that many seem to believe, without any evidence or reason to do so (and contrary to the label if one were to read it). Drives me crazy.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »CurlyCockney wrote: »I drink skimmed milk to add colour to tea or coffee, but I just wanted to comment regarding added sugars. I appreciate that many (most?) users of MFP are in North America, and your systems may be different, but in the UK sugar is not added as part of the skimming process.
No, it's absolutely not added to normal (non flavored) skim or low fat fat in the US either (and I am sure not in Canada). It's something that many seem to believe, without any evidence or reason to do so (and contrary to the label if one were to read it). Drives me crazy.
Thank you! I shall move this information from my "Fashion" (they do it over there but they don't do it here) folder to my "Woo" folder ;-)
https://youtu.be/GA27aQZCQMk
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Possibly because an 8oz glass of milk is from 125-150 calories? Also some may have issues with digestion of lactose when taken by itself.
People make changes in their diets due to cost too.
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I drink 80 grams/ml with bread meals, and use 100 grams in porridge/pudding/smoothie and 30 grams in potato/sweet potato mash. I use only whole milk and find the taste:satiety:price:macro ratio very reasonable.
Woo is a much more common issue than *real* intolerances.0 -
I don't get it. I can understand not liking milk, but to exclude it solely because of dieting purposes? Am I missing something.
Milk is such an easy way to get in your protein. Fairlife milk provides me with 13 grams of protein per cup. If you love milk, I don't see any reason to stop drinking it.
You don't have to stop drinking it if you love it.
I like to eat my calories not drink them. I find chewing more satisfying than drinking. I choose to drink mostly water or unsweetened tea and save the calories for food.
I don't love drinking milk though. It wasn't something I ever did on a daily basis. If I loved it then I would still include it more often.
This is the main issue for me. If I'm hungry, milk really wouldn't cut it. I'd rather have the calories for something I can actually eat. But if people have the calories to use, why not?
Have to say, I was really surprised to see that milk is considered such a hot-button issue!0 -
i love milk but i don't have to eliminate it for it not to appear in my diary very often. i just don't drink it much regularly. what, are grown adults sitting around the dinner table pouring themselves a tall glass of milk to eat with their steak? i pour it in my Cocoa Pebbles and I use it as an ingredient when I'm cooking pancakes, occasionally i mix my protein powder with chocolate milk. other than that....it just sits in my fridge.
what it is NOT is a convenient way to get protein while you're cutting. full fat milk is calorie dense for the protein it provides and skim milk tastes like sadness. 2% is tolerable....but what's even the point?
Love this @DavPul ! "What adult sits around drinking milk? I put it on my Cocoa Pebbles!"
But I agree. I don't avoid milk- I use it in lots of things- just don't drink it all that much. Hard enough for me to get my water in. 0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »Possibly because an 8oz glass of milk is from 125-150 calories? Also some may have issues with digestion of lactose when taken by itself.
People make changes in their diets due to cost too.
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I drink 80 grams/ml with bread meals, and use 100 grams in porridge/pudding/smoothie and 30 grams in potato/sweet potato mash. I use only whole milk and find the taste:satiety:price:macro ratio very reasonable.
Woo is a much more common issue than *real* intolerances.
I assure you that lactose intolerance is both very real and quite common, especially among certain populations0 -
I drink more milk when losing weight than I do when I'm not calorie counting. I used to think I was lactose intolerant but now I do great on the stuff.0
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Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.0 -
My organic is well over $4.00 in Houston TX0
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Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
Anywhere from $3 to $5 here in California0 -
Because many people are into whey protein powder
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Mine is 71 pence per litre. I buy long-life because I only bulk shop once a month http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/longer-life-milk/sainsburys-skimmed-long-life-milk-6x1l0
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kommodevaran wrote: »Possibly because an 8oz glass of milk is from 125-150 calories? Also some may have issues with digestion of lactose when taken by itself.
People make changes in their diets due to cost too.
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I drink 80 grams/ml with bread meals, and use 100 grams in porridge/pudding/smoothie and 30 grams in potato/sweet potato mash. I use only whole milk and find the taste:satiety:price:macro ratio very reasonable.
Woo is a much more common issue than *real* intolerances.
I assure you that lactose intolerance is both very real and quite common, especially among certain populations
While some populations are almost exclusively lactose intolerant, the human population as a whole is not.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
That's pretty good. I think here our walmart has it around $2.50 and Aldi carries it between $1.50 and $2.20.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »Possibly because an 8oz glass of milk is from 125-150 calories? Also some may have issues with digestion of lactose when taken by itself.
People make changes in their diets due to cost too.
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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I drink 80 grams/ml with bread meals, and use 100 grams in porridge/pudding/smoothie and 30 grams in potato/sweet potato mash. I use only whole milk and find the taste:satiety:price:macro ratio very reasonable.
Woo is a much more common issue than *real* intolerances.
I assure you that lactose intolerance is both very real and quite common, especially among certain populations
I can't get the link to load, but if anyone visits the Wikipedia page for lactose intolerance they'll find this in footnotes and the appropriate link to the research paper on it:"Adult-type hypolactasia is characterized by a fall of lactase activity levels to 5 to 10% of birth levels occurring during childhood and adolescence. The condition affects more than 75% of the population worldwide, with regional frequencies ranging from nearly 5% in northern Europe to more than 90% in some Asian and African countries"
That said I am almost entirely descended from northern Europeans but am obviously some genetic throwback due to my lactose intolerance. Though someone earlier said they can't do milk or ice cream anymore but can do cheese and yogurt. I seem to have the opposite, cheese is the worst for me, but I can tolerate small amounts of ice cream and milk.
I use lactaid milk with protein shakes, to dip my Oreos in, and any other milk needs. I used to drink milk every day as a kid but I think I associate drinking it with when I was getting sick and discovered I was intolerant so now I can't really do it by itself, but it's a mental thing since the lactaid stuff doesn't bother me. I do miss pizza. A lot. At least the milk is just regular milk with lactose removed, but the non-dairy cheese is pretty frickin' horrible stuff. They don't make cheese for the lactose intolerant, they are catering to vegans so probably trying to make cheese from vegetable fats or something inefficient.
I agree it shouldn't be on anyone's banned list, but other than vegans I don't see too many people saying it's universally bad. Unlike diet soda, where people use their anecdotal experience to say it's horrible for everyone. I live in pricey California and regular milk is still pretty affordable here (though the lactose free stuff is not). For growing kids it's still a good calorie bang for your buck and as an adult I like the creaminess it can add to my protein shakes. If it fits in your calories and you like it, drink away! If you don't like it, don't worry, no one gonna force you to drink milk. If you are an activist vegan, why not direct your anti-dairy farm concerns to your congressman instead of a bunch of people on a message board.0 -
Because it's gross. I like it in my coffee, but that's it. I can't stand the taste of plain milk.0
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Grew up drinking more milk than anyone (dairy farm kid) I love milk so much BUT I as a rule I don't drink my calories.
I do have a Vega protein shake daily (25 g protein) but really try to stick to water & green tea.0 -
I'm lactose intolerant, milk giving me the most problems. I break out when I drink too much milk, too. I drink Lactaid sometimes and use that for anything that needs milk, but when it comes to milk or any average beverage pretty much, I don't like drinking my calories.0
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Over the years I have become lactose sensitive although I have never liked milk. As a kid I would eat the cereal and leave the milk and didn't care for mayo or American cheese because it reminded me of milk. And even when I use plant based milks, I never drink them straight (unless chocolate, yum) because the color just reminds me of regular milk. I just use it for coffee and any recipe that calls for milk. That said I adore most cheeses 0
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@rca27801 as you have read the reasons are many. I left it off/limited for years due to IBS before i learned my 40 years of IBS was due to using sugar and grains as food items by elimination dieting.
I still do not do milk very often and if I do I try to do the 3.5% butter fat (whole milk). Most of my milk today to escape most of the sugar is stuff like Heavy Whipping Cream simmerandboil.cookinglight.com/2009/02/17/heavy-cream-vs/ , cheese, half and half, Philidelphia Cream Cheese. What will float to the top in fresh raw cow's milk is low in lactose and sugar as a rule of thumb so those us that may be lactose and or sugar intolerant often do well. Being a LCHF eater these milk products help fill the 80% fats part of my macro.
The half and half at McDonalds is 20 calories of mainly fats per serving so each cup of senior coffee gives me 180 calories per cup so I have many most days. At home I use HWC which adds about 200 calories a cup.
Like in all foods we have many different reasons why eat/do not eat different foods. The above milk items helps those of us get our high fat macros filled.
Thankful there is many "right" ways to eat. 0 -
I don't really have an answer one way or another. I'm just here to say I love drinking buttermilk. It's delicious (to me only, apparently), and has not hindered my weight loss when it fits in my day.
Team buttermilk. And sour cream. And cheese.0 -
I don't like drinking my calories. No problem using it in recipes though.0
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Personally I prefer to not drink my calories unless their in the form of a quality dark beer.0
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Because I don't really like the taste and I have a feeling my skin is a lot happier without it. Nothing to do with calories.0
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I love milk, but I very rarely drink it anymore because it is just too many calories for my to justify it. I keep it around for cooking and cereal, and for taking sips here and there, but I no longer regularly drink a glass of milk. More like a quick swig from the jug if I really want it.0
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Fay84Vegan wrote: »Pus very much is a part of All Dairy ...."Up to 400,000 million somatic (pus) cells are legally allowed in each litre of milk sold in the UK." (Other places may vary but removing all pus from Dairy Products is impossible! It's part of Cows Milk ...Breast Milk)
Dr T Colin Capbell spent 25 years researching Animal Protein & it's effects on the human body in the largest human study ever done 'The China Study'. He himself grew up on a Dairy Farm drinking Milk everyday! Since his findings that "Casesin (The Protein found in Milk) is a Carcinogen (Cancer Promoting).. Him & his Family have changed to follow a strict Plantbased Diet.
During the Research they could literally Start & Stop Cancer Growth by adding or taking away Animal Protein partically 'Casesin Protein' Cows Milk. (Plant proteins had no effect on Cancer Cell Growth)
Dairy is also more likely to cause Osteoporosis rather than prevent it (The opposite of how it is Advertised!)
I don't know why more people don't know about this...!?
I spent 25 years eating Dairy everyday... I haven't eaten any for nearly 6 years & I feel great for it!
If you care about Your Health & the Health of the ones you Love, I'd highly encourage everyone to remove Animal Protein from their Diets... Particularly Dairy Products!
Since it wasn't pointed out clearly enough: Campbell and his china study are crap.
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-china-study-revisited/0
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