Sugar-free drinks: the good, the bad and the 'we should be aware'!

Mentali

sunnybeaches105 wrote: »

Christine_72 wrote: »

6pkdreamer wrote: »

This has turned into a ping pong session. Your turn ans serve

Yes, it's incredibly aggravating to read. Just a back and forth from either side, when in the end no one is going to change their mind on this anyway...

Which leads me to my favourite gif, which is so apt for these kinds of discussions

There are areas where reasonable minds may disagree such as politics, but this isn't one of them. There isn't a debate in this thread anymore than there is a "debate" about evolution. Unfortunatey, a strong anti-science movement is well underway and it's putting people at risk. The anti-diet soda crowd is largely harmless (does anyone really cares if someone doesn't drink diet soda? Although if the alternative is high-calorie sodas then it does do a bit of damage), but then there are the other areas that do put people at real risk, such as the anti-vaccine portion of the same movement. All of that said, quite a few of these minds won't change and it is largely futile to argue with adult who so clearly refused to learn during their education and is predisposed to listen to crackpots rather than their doctors.

Arguments in public often are there not to persuade the other person, but to persuade the audience. If it's rebuked every time it comes up, someone idly searching/reading won't think it's just a legitimate a claim as any other. That's who the back-and-forth is really for.

ClosetBayesian

NewDeb14 wrote: »

My experience isn't everyone else's, I KNOW that. Since y'all jumped on me so quick i had to go back and read what I wrote. Would I like for everyone not to use them, absolutely. Am I so ignorant that they don't work on everyone the way they did on me, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I do know that my experience isn't meant for everyone, but who knows, it just may help someone. If not you, then ignore and carry on.

If your n=1 experience is not typical, why would you "like for everyone not to use them"? Your conclusion does not follow.

ForecasterJason

sunnybeaches105 wrote: »

Christine_72 wrote: »

6pkdreamer wrote: »

This has turned into a ping pong session. Your turn ans serve

Yes, it's incredibly aggravating to read. Just a back and forth from either side, when in the end no one is going to change their mind on this anyway...

Which leads me to my favourite gif, which is so apt for these kinds of discussions

All of that said, quite a few of these minds won't change and it is largely futile to argue with adult who so clearly refused to learn during their education and is predisposed to listen to crackpots rather than their doctors.

I wouldn't be surprised that if I asked my doctor whether people should be drinking multiple cans of diet soda a day, perhaps he'd say "no".

ReaderGirl3

ForecasterJason wrote: »

sunnybeaches105 wrote: »

Christine_72 wrote: »

6pkdreamer wrote: »

This has turned into a ping pong session. Your turn ans serve

Yes, it's incredibly aggravating to read. Just a back and forth from either side, when in the end no one is going to change their mind on this anyway...

Which leads me to my favourite gif, which is so apt for these kinds of discussions

All of that said, quite a few of these minds won't change and it is largely futile to argue with adult who so clearly refused to learn during their education and is predisposed to listen to crackpots rather than their doctors.

I wouldn't be surprised that if I asked my doctor whether people should be drinking multiple cans of diet soda a day, perhaps he'd say "no".

Mine has no issues with me drinking diet soda, it's something we've actually discussed quite a bit.

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sunnybeaches105

ReaderGirl3 wrote: »

ForecasterJason wrote: »

sunnybeaches105 wrote: »

Christine_72 wrote: »

6pkdreamer wrote: »

This has turned into a ping pong session. Your turn ans serve

Yes, it's incredibly aggravating to read. Just a back and forth from either side, when in the end no one is going to change their mind on this anyway...

Which leads me to my favourite gif, which is so apt for these kinds of discussions

All of that said, quite a few of these minds won't change and it is largely futile to argue with adult who so clearly refused to learn during their education and is predisposed to listen to crackpots rather than their doctors.

I wouldn't be surprised that if I asked my doctor whether people should be drinking multiple cans of diet soda a day, perhaps he'd say "no".

Mine has no issues with me drinking diet soda, it's something we've actually discussed quite a bit.

Same. None of mine have. Of course, I visit real doctors with degrees from good medical schools and who come recommended to me from other professionals who I trust. That said, I'm sure he'd look askance if I suggested I drink more than 2 or 3 a day.

positivepowers

ronjsteele1 wrote: »

Wow. Just wow. There are plenty of studies that indicate exactly what OP is saying. Besides the weight gain factor, the health implications of artificial sweeteners is huge. Nutrasweet nearly killed me when I was pregnant. Literally. 7 days in a hospital on a morphine drip because of the stuff. And no, I'm not allergic to it. It just caused a lot of damage to my organs because I thought diet drinks were okay. I would suggest doing some more in depth research before you poo poo this, but then again, I don't expect it off of this website.

I drink diet sodas literally every day. I've been losing weight steadily since January, when I started the program. I have diabetes but my sugars are controlled now. I'm sorry you went through this but my organs are fine even with the diet soda. If you wish to stop drinking it, that's great but leave my diet sodas alone!

JaneiR36 wrote:

That would be like saying everyone should avoid peanuts because consumption of it could be fatal to some individuals.

Exactly.

KaysKidz

shell1005 wrote: »

I use artificial sweeteners every single day. I have never been in the hospital as a result. Never had one single health complication. I think the fear mongering about artificial sweeteners is ridiculous to be honest.

I do too. I'm 46 and aside from being obese (not from artificial sweeteners), I'm healthy. My son, on the other hand, who doesn't consume artificial sweeteners, was diagnosed with Leukemia last year. Go figure.

Merkavar

Am I just an freak, losing 140lb while drinking coke zero?

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