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Did You / Would You Vax Your Child?
myheartsabattleground
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I most certainly would! Growing up, you weren't allowed to attend school or participate in intramurals without proof that you "had all your shots."
Is there a link between vax and asd / downs? MAYBE
Has it been 100% Proven? NOPE
Are there blatantly ignorant people wasting air? YESSIR
Is there a link between vax and asd / downs? MAYBE
Has it been 100% Proven? NOPE
Are there blatantly ignorant people wasting air? YESSIR
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Yes, my kids were vaccinated. We're traveling to Colombia in May so they just received their vaccinations for typhoid as well.
I'm pretty sure you still have to show proof of vaccination to attend school these days as well.0 -
I don't have children, but when I do, they'll be vaccinated. I don't see why not, honestly, because if you can prevent diseases/illnesses (ie polio) why not?
ETA My senior year of high school, I wasn't allowed to register for classes without certain vaccines, like HPV.0 -
I kinda wanted her to have an education. Vaccinations are mandatory for that.0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Yes, my kids were vaccinated. We're traveling to Colombia in May so they just received their vaccinations for typhoid as well.
I'm pretty sure you still have to show proof of vaccination to attend school these days as well.
Heck, I was 16 and my dr looked at me like a deer in headlights when I asked for guardasil. Never been sexually active either, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.1 -
myheartsabattleground wrote: »I most certainly would! Growing up, you weren't allowed to attend school or participate in intramurals without proof that you "had all your shots."
Is there a link between vax and asd / downs? MAYBE
Has it been 100% Proven? NOPE
Are there blatantly ignorant people wasting air? YESSIR
Study after study has shown no link to autism. And downs is a chromosomal disorder.
Yes, my kids are vaccinated.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Yes, my kids were vaccinated. We're traveling to Colombia in May so they just received their vaccinations for typhoid as well.
I'm pretty sure you still have to show proof of vaccination to attend school these days as well.
You do have to show proof, but some states have exemptions in place. There are schools in California where 20 to 30 percent are not vaccinated.
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I would get the NECESSARY vaccines. They amount of vaccines given to children has dramatically increased over the last 20 years and I don't think all of them are 100% necessary. But definitely for things like polio and other fatal diseases.1
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CADAVER0USB0N3S wrote: »I would get the NECESSARY vaccines. They amount of vaccines given to children has dramatically increased over the last 20 years and I don't think all of them are 100% necessary. But definitely for things like polio and other fatal diseases.
What about HPV?0 -
Yes my children were vaccinated, as are my grandchildren. The folks I know who won't or don't are scientifically illiterate.4
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Yes, my kids were vaccinated. We're traveling to Colombia in May so they just received their vaccinations for typhoid as well.
I'm pretty sure you still have to show proof of vaccination to attend school these days as well.
You do have to show proof, but some states have exemptions in place. There are schools in California where 20 to 30 percent are not vaccinated.
A new law has basically gotten rid of all exemptions except documented medical ones, i.e. the child in question is currently going through treatment for cancer, for this very reason.
The anti-science crowd is having a heyday with it because something something parental rights, but if they want to not vaccinate, they can home school or send their children to a private school that allows non-vaccinated children to attend.1 -
CADAVER0USB0N3S wrote: »They amount of vaccines given to children has dramatically increased over the last 20 years
This gets thrown around a lot with the implication that it's a bad thing, but I really don't see why. I guess it just sounds bad so people assume it is bad. But ultimately this kind of thinking is dangerous and leads to people being anti-vaccine.
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I line up for any vaccine available. It's the most natural illness prevention method available. After all, all it's doing is priming our body's natural defenses. I get the flu shot every year, got the H1N1, and vaccine to prevent bacterial Pneumonia.
I often wonder what it is about vaccine specifically that scares people. Is it the white lab coats? Approved of by mainstream medicine and science? The very idea of a NEEDLE?4 -
15 Common Anti-Vaccine Arguments and Why They are a Load of Crap
https://thelogicofscience.com/2015/02/01/15-common-anti-vaccine-arguments-and-why-they-are-a-load-of-crap/##9 Vaccines cause autism
How To Argue With The Anti-Vaccine Crazies: A Guide
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/popsci-guide-anti-vaccine-claims
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I don't have kids and never plan to. But I get vaccines for myself.
For the idiots who think it is a bad idea to get their kids vaccinated: Good for you for addressing a problem... the problem of over-population, that is.3 -
I was born in 1956 and was the youngest of 3. My mother had to worry all of the time about polio until the vaccine became readily available that same year (it was licensed in 1955). 35,000 people were infected with polio in 1953, when my eldest brother was born. Only 5,500 people were infected in 1957 and less than 200 in 1961.
MMR was NOT available when I was growing up and I have been partially deaf since I was 4 years old because I had the measles.
Vaccines work, they are perfectly safe for the vast majority of people, and they save lives and prevent diseases that can leave a lasting disability. I am so glad I don't have to go through the worry that my mother did starting a family at the height of an epidemic.19 -
When did we get Like buttons? Those are awesome!!!
Yes I vaccinated my children...I was also vaccinated but still got the measles... (I had been vaccinated for it but 4 out of 5 people in my house got it).0 -
yes. no question.
my Dad has a hand deformity because his mom had rubella when she was pregnant. but at least he lived.0 -
I line up for any vaccine available. It's the most natural illness prevention method available. After all, all it's doing is priming our body's natural defenses. I get the flu shot every year, got the H1N1, and vaccine to prevent bacterial Pneumonia.
I often wonder what it is about vaccine specifically that scares people. Is it the white lab coats? Approved of by mainstream medicine and science? The very idea of a NEEDLE?
What scares some people is getting injected with the virus, albeit an inert form.
I was 22 when I learned the university I went to required booster shots for some vaccinations. At least this time I knew what to expect.
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I vaccinated mine. I was a little nervous after reading the informed consent forms. While the risk of an adverse reaction is low, it is horrible if it's your kid.
I would do the same today.0 -
I have a friend who lost her son shortly after a vaccination. While they couldn't prove it was the vaccine that caused his death they did receive a settlement from the fund.
She's had 3 children since then and refuses to vaccinate along with her sister who refuses to vaccinate her 4 children. To me, her and her sister's choice is understandable, but I still vaccinated my children. I'm sure deep down they are thankful for the herd around them that are vaccinated.
Most, if not all states have a religious exemption that allows unvaccinated children in school.0 -
Yes I did vax my kids. The only shots you need for school is two doses of MMR. That's all folks0
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Yes. I did. Had both my boys vaccinated. I consider it very selfish not to vaccinate. The only reason it is a question is because so many do that those who do not are protected. These viruses are not spread around very much. But, if we still had diphtheria, pertussis, and measles, and children died, a lot, I don't think we would be debating vaccination.4
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Yes, I have vaccinated both of my daughters and Lil'bit will be getting vaccinated when the time comes.
Yes, we vaccinate against more things than we did 20 years ago. BUT the amount of antigens actually contained in these immunizations is less now than the amount 20 years ago because of improved methods and technology.
Someone mentioned that they got the crazy eyes when they asked for Gardasil without being sexually active. That is actually how we do it, so I find that weird. We prefer to give it starting at 12, before kids have had sex. Once you've been exposed to HPV it offers no protection. I ask boys, frankly, if they want warts on their penis. So far they have unanimously accepted.5 -
I have a friend who lost her son shortly after a vaccination. While they couldn't prove it was the vaccine that caused his death they did receive a settlement from the fund.
She's had 3 children since then and refuses to vaccinate along with her sister who refuses to vaccinate her 4 children. To me, her and her sister's choice is understandable, but I still vaccinated my children. I'm sure deep down they are thankful for the herd around them that are vaccinated.
Most, if not all states have a religious exemption that allows unvaccinated children in school.
That is a very rare complication, but it does happen. Whatever caused the bad reaction could be genetic so it is wise to not vaccinate siblings. These are the exceptions where the whole "herd immunity" idea helps. If everyone who CAN be vaccinated is, those few who cannot will still be protected because the people around them will not carry the germs by way of vaccination.
It is when a larger portion of the herd is not immune that outbreaks happen.5 -
Mom of 3 here. My daughters were vaccinated following the normal schedule, no issues. With my son, I had gotten involved in the whole 'crunchy' mom movement and was hesitant to vaccinate him, but decided to go ahead with it. And then the little stinker went ahead and had a reaction and we ended up in the ER (severe lethargy, 104 fever, refused to nurse and became dehydrated-and he was already underweight/labeled failure to thrive, so that made it even more of a big deal.) They couldn't for sure pin it on the vaccines and 2 days later he was fine.
Went back in for the next round, same thing happened. My pediatrician recommended we break the vaccines up and only get one at a time. We did this and figured out it was the dtap one that was causing the issues.
We continued with a delayed/select schedule and he was caught up with everything a few months before kindergarten. It was a scary and frustrating thing to go through but I'm still for vaccinations. I've had my adult boosters as well!4 -
My 3 younger children are not fully vaccinated.
My oldest was fully vaccinated...when she recieved her last mmr shot, she had a severe allergic reaction that landed her in the hospital. The reaction triggered the gene she carries for Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. She was 4, and developed JRA in her feet and ankles. While not debilitating, having rheumatoid arthritis from the age of 4 in your feetvand ankles is very limiting. There are day where she is nearly immobile.
Because my other children also carry the gene for JRA, we (along with our ped) have elected to not give the other kids the MMR in the off chance that they also have an allergic reaction. They have a medical exemption, but attend a private school where they would be allowed to attend regardless.
Had no one had a reaction, they would be fully vaccinated.2 -
johnnylakis wrote: »Yes I did vax my kids. The only shots you need for school is two doses of MMR. That's all folks
Not in all states.1 -
I'm a nurse, and will all due respect to Jenny McCarthy (after all, she was intelligent enough to marry Donny Wahlberg) she isn't a physician, nor does she have the medical knowledge she thinks she does. While immunizations may be a risk for a small population (still not proven), the diseases they protect against are an advantage for a large number of people.
From the World Health Organization:
DTP3
115 million
infants vaccinated with 3 doses of DTP
in 2014
DTP3 immunization coverage
Prevention
2–3 million
deaths from diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), and measles averted annually by vaccination
Global immunization coverage, 2014
Mortality
1.5 million
children under the age of 5 died from vaccine-preventable diseases in 2008
Global immunization coverage, 2014
http://www.who.int/gho/immunization/en/
I was vaccinated as a child, and continue as an adult. My children were vaccinated and my grandchildren are vaccinated to protect them from the ignorant non-vaccinators.4 -
What I think is a miracle is the vaccine for chicken pox. Both my sister an I have scars on our faces from when we had chicken pox. But my niece and nephew got the vaccine so they probably won't have to endure that miserable illness! Or long term scarring that can have effects on a persons self esteem.2
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I vaccinated both my kids.
Here in Australia they've brought in a law, no vaccs= no government benefits.
A little baby died here the other week from whooping cough, apparently caught from an unvaccinated child
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