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Biggest loser?

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  • Anaris2014
    Anaris2014 Posts: 138 Member
    edited May 2016
    I'm not convinced by that study - it was only based on select participants, and not "all".
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,985 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually likes the show? The only thing that bugs me is when they make those obese people RUN on treadmills (And there's always one who falls off!) Why put such stress on their joints when they could get just as good a workout on an elliptical with low/no impact?
    People say it's too hard and unsustainable. Well, they have nothing else to do all day so working out 4-6 hrs a day for a few months is not unreasonable. Construction workers and other hard manual laborers work all day long for years don't they?
    Well yes it is because when they go back to the real world, they aren't going to workout 4-6 hours a day.
    That's because after dropping to normal weight levels they don't NEED to do that much exercise to maintain the weight loss. I used to exercise a lot more (in volume and intensity) when I was losing. Now, I only need 1hr/day of moderate intensity to maintain.
    Unfortunately, the numbers say different for many who have lost lots of of weight quickly. If you know anything about physiology, muscle loss happens with weight loss. Metabolic rates drop more and more which means eating less is more important than exercise. And like other diets, most BL losers DON'T maintain the way they eat at the ranch. Couple that with less exercise and intensity, and weight regain is pretty much inevitable.
    So, a high volume of exercise is certainly sustainable in the short term duration of the show because the purpose is to lose massive weights quickly. It's a perfectly good strategy that anyone can implement. Just because you can't do it forever doesn't mean you shouldn't do it all for a short time. It's like saying you shouldn't cut calories to 1200 for x months because it's unsustainable for the long term. Of course you can, you'll lose weight faster and then when you increase the calories, you'll either lose slower or maintain.
    Having done this for over 30 years and having it as a profession, I'm sure I have a much better handle on how weight loss should be done. Many times logic sounds right. Implementation with results usually don't show the same.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • derek1237654
    derek1237654 Posts: 234 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually likes the show? The only thing that bugs me is when they make those obese people RUN on treadmills (And there's always one who falls off!) Why put such stress on their joints when they could get just as good a workout on an elliptical with low/no impact?
    People say it's too hard and unsustainable. Well, they have nothing else to do all day so working out 4-6 hrs a day for a few months is not unreasonable. Construction workers and other hard manual laborers work all day long for years don't they?
    Well yes it is because when they go back to the real world, they aren't going to workout 4-6 hours a day.
    That's because after dropping to normal weight levels they don't NEED to do that much exercise to maintain the weight loss. I used to exercise a lot more (in volume and intensity) when I was losing. Now, I only need 1hr/day of moderate intensity to maintain.
    Unfortunately, the numbers say different for many who have lost lots of of weight quickly. If you know anything about physiology, muscle loss happens with weight loss. Metabolic rates drop more and more which means eating less is more important than exercise. And like other diets, most BL losers DON'T maintain the way they eat at the ranch. Couple that with less exercise and intensity, and weight regain is pretty much inevitable.
    So, a high volume of exercise is certainly sustainable in the short term duration of the show because the purpose is to lose massive weights quickly. It's a perfectly good strategy that anyone can implement. Just because you can't do it forever doesn't mean you shouldn't do it all for a short time. It's like saying you shouldn't cut calories to 1200 for x months because it's unsustainable for the long term. Of course you can, you'll lose weight faster and then when you increase the calories, you'll either lose slower or maintain.
    Having done this for over 30 years and having it as a profession, I'm sure I have a much better handle on how weight loss should be done. Many times logic sounds right. Implementation with results usually don't show the same.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Just because your numbers say that it doesnt work for a lot or most people doesnt mean that you shouldnt try to do it. Lots of people try many things that are good and fail....what matters is that you get up again,dust yourself off and do it again.
  • RoteBook
    RoteBook Posts: 171 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually likes the show? The only thing that bugs me is when they make those obese people RUN on treadmills (And there's always one who falls off!) Why put such stress on their joints when they could get just as good a workout on an elliptical with low/no impact?
    People say it's too hard and unsustainable. Well, they have nothing else to do all day so working out 4-6 hrs a day for a few months is not unreasonable. Construction workers and other hard manual laborers work all day long for years don't they?
    Well yes it is because when they go back to the real world, they aren't going to workout 4-6 hours a day.
    That's because after dropping to normal weight levels they don't NEED to do that much exercise to maintain the weight loss. I used to exercise a lot more (in volume and intensity) when I was losing. Now, I only need 1hr/day of moderate intensity to maintain.
    Unfortunately, the numbers say different for many who have lost lots of of weight quickly. If you know anything about physiology, muscle loss happens with weight loss. Metabolic rates drop more and more which means eating less is more important than exercise. And like other diets, most BL losers DON'T maintain the way they eat at the ranch. Couple that with less exercise and intensity, and weight regain is pretty much inevitable.
    So, a high volume of exercise is certainly sustainable in the short term duration of the show because the purpose is to lose massive weights quickly. It's a perfectly good strategy that anyone can implement. Just because you can't do it forever doesn't mean you shouldn't do it all for a short time. It's like saying you shouldn't cut calories to 1200 for x months because it's unsustainable for the long term. Of course you can, you'll lose weight faster and then when you increase the calories, you'll either lose slower or maintain.
    Having done this for over 30 years and having it as a profession, I'm sure I have a much better handle on how weight loss should be done. Many times logic sounds right. Implementation with results usually don't show the same.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Just because your numbers say that it doesnt work for a lot or most people doesnt mean that you shouldnt try to do it. Lots of people try many things that are good and fail....what matters is that you get up again,dust yourself off and do it again.

    That's not how science works. If something has been proven to be harmful to most people then it does, in fact, mean that you shouldn't try to do it.

    This isn't the same as "most people will regain lost weight so you shouldn't try." This is "three + hours daily cardio plus a vlcd will permanently damage most people's bodies, and advocating it as a weight loss method is harmful."
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    I think the show promotes unrealistic and dangerous weight loss. I think the contestants damage themselves and are not healthy role models.
  • therealfitt
    therealfitt Posts: 8 Member
    You with your indivasion calories burnt..... Maybe thats an indication to your question hahahah
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    now there is an article out stating that they were told to take a popular ADD/ADHD med and yellowjackets(a fat burner with ephedrine in it) to lose weight quicker. one person said they were told to say they ate 1500 calories but only ate 800 and a lot of contestants would puke often.
  • tayter_tot7
    tayter_tot7 Posts: 220 Member
    I kinda feel the same was about this as I feel about super models and pageant contestants... when you fit into the mold its ok...but the minute you do you cry foul....
  • antennachick
    antennachick Posts: 464 Member
    Its reality tv people LOL
  • chrislee1628
    chrislee1628 Posts: 305 Member
    What do people think about what they do on the biggest loser?

    it is an entertaining show, something for me to watch when I eat lunch, dinner or when on the exercise bike etc

    damn sight better than say East Enders, Coronation Street for example

    would I personally do what they do? hell no

    were they fat to start with? or did they sign up, put on weight to be on the show?

    regardless, I would not personally go on a tv show to lose weight
  • Study: 13 out of 14 Biggest Loser contestants gain back weight
    http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/Study-13-out-of-14-Biggest-Loser-contestants-gain-back-weight-378467711.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?_r=0
    I believe learning how to eat right is 90% of the battle.
    The show focused too much on exercise.

    I think the show is reality tv and mostly about drama