Planet Fitness
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Anyone notice the homeless are joining their 24 hr $10, a month gyms? Read somewhere this is getting more common. Showers, warm, cool sometimes food 24/7 access, wifi, tv, etc not a bad deal.2
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Personally I lost roughly 110 pounds between June of 2014, and June of 2015 by visiting Planet Fitness. I am a Black Card member and have been since I joined.
It's not a "Gym" gym by any stretch but it's one of the few places you get to test your mental state of how bad you want to lose your weight. Because everything is based on you. No one to push, no one to encourage, no one to motivate it's you and you alone.7 -
You know I heard all kinds of bad things, then when I went there anyway 'cause I'm broke but still needed a gym, none of them were true. I've never heard the lunk alarm at my current location. not once. It is very clean, friendly, and well maintained. Machines always in excellent condition. Just don't go to the pizza thing whenever the heck that is (I don't even know lol). By all means go to PF and work out without breaking the bank!5
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If you never want to progress than pf is great...
I'm sorry, what where you saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of all this progress
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I'm surprised that more Americans don't take offence at a marketing campaign that brings others down to sell your product
They do that so people do don't go to muscle houses don't feel intimidated.
But over all I agree with you, If you need to make others look bad, then how good are you really?1 -
I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.3
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Sassie_Lassie wrote: »
The operative word there is "IF." It's common knowledge that your typical American already consumes way too much when it comes to processed, highly caloric food. Not to mention that your typical out-of-shape joe -- PF's target clientele -- is generally less informed when it comes to calories and the amount of effort required to burn them off.Sassie_Lassie wrote: »thefuzz1290 wrote: »If you can't afford another gym, then do what you need to. However, make sure you ignore the pizza and bagel days, and pass up the free candy at the front desk. Find a smaller, independent gym. I bet you'll find more encouragement there, then PF.
Why does one need to ignore the pizza and bagels? If it fits in your daily calories then have at it.
Please explain what the difference is between having pizza and bagels or getting a big protein shake at the protein bars some gyms have that probably has as many if not more calories than the pizza and bagels. Is it ok because the shake is "healthy"?
Do you seriously not understand how protein works in building muscle, and how eating bagels (unless they are smothered in piles of lox) is not terribly helpful for hitting a high protein macro level? This kind of proves people's points about PF.1 -
I am a PF member. A brand new one just opened near me. Haven't been other than the tour because I broke my ankle right after I joined. Can't wait until I can drive again!! My plan is to go 3 days a week for resistance training. Maybe do their circuit thing. Might even go to some of the classes.
After all the talk here I researched carefully before joining. I decided that it is fine for me. Every business should have the right to cater to the clientele they wish. Why should a gym be required to have dead lift equipment? If you want to dead lift, go to a gym that allows it.
I wonder if their insurance is less expensive because they don't have heavy weights. That may be why it's only 10 bucks a month.
Many businesses have dress codes. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" signs are around. Isn't that the same thing?
There are gyms that don't allow unfit people to join. Is there the same outrage about that?
If you judge by some of the weightlifters on MFP, I can see their point in not wanting them. They chase people away with agressive behavior. That's bad for business.
PF doesn't have a contract. If a person progresses there is no reason they can't move on to a gym that will meet their needs.
I will have no problem saying no thank you to the food provided. My town has terrible pizza. But isn't the mantra here "you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay in a deficit. I eat pizza all the time"?2 -
Those 2 signs posted above are not from any location I have ever visited. I suppose these gyms are like any other chain: Some locations are great, and a few suck, and most are pretty decent. If I went to a location that sucked, then I would transfer to another. Nobody's pizzas, ill thought out marketing campaign, or anything else that won't affect me anyway, will be interfering with my workouts and self motivation. If I did not go to PF I would not be able to go to any gym due to finances. There are times that I work out at home, or do a yoga video, but I like the option to use the machines. They help keep injuries down. I'm arthritic as crap and free weights have not proven a good option for me under the circumstances.1
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I wonder if their insurance is less expensive because they don't have heavy weights. That may be why it's only 10 bucks a month.
The biggest driver of insurance is showers. Most gym liabilities (from the few gym owners I know) are due to slips in the locker rooms. As such, their insurance is unlikely to be less. And, if it is, not very much less.PF doesn't have a contract.
Yes, they do. Different terms for different levels - the $10 and $15 plans are year-long contracts. The $20 Black Card is not. But they all have contracts.But isn't the mantra here "you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay in a deficit. I eat pizza all the time"?
Yeah, I'm not sure I really get that complaint, either.
I "hate" the marketing. It's not a place that would work for me, with the dearth of free weights. But, for the average person that just wants to get in better shape, or keep in shape, it's generally fine. Oh, and there's a lot of purple, so that's cool.
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I wonder if their insurance is less expensive because they don't have heavy weights. That may be why it's only 10 bucks a month.
The biggest driver of insurance is showers. Most gym liabilities (from the few gym owners I know) are due to slips in the locker rooms. As such, their insurance is unlikely to be less. And, if it is, not very much less.PF doesn't have a contract.
Yes, they do. Different terms for different levels - the $10 and $15 plans are year-long contracts. The $20 Black Card is not. But they
Maybe I got a special deal because it $9.99 a month, cancel any time.0 -
mochachichi wrote: »thefuzz1290 wrote: »Sassie_Lassie wrote: »
Please explain what the difference is between having pizza and bagels or getting a big protein shake at the protein bars some gyms have that probably has as many if not more calories than the pizza and bagels. Is it ok because the shake is "healthy"?
1 slice of pepperoni pizza from Little Caesars (where the PF near me gets their pizza):
280 calories
31 Carbs
13 Protein
11 Fat
1 14oz Muscle Milk protein shake:
230 calories
11 Carbs
25 Protein
9 Fat
So you're saying that the pizza has the perfect 3:1 Carb to protein post workout nutrition ratio? Cool! I normally have chocolate milk after a workout but glad to know pizza fits the bill too
That's not how things work. While Pizza might be a good mid cycling-ride snack due to the carbs and fat, it makes a HORRIBLE recovery snack. That's not how things work.0 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »Sassie_Lassie wrote: »
The operative word there is "IF." It's common knowledge that your typical American already consumes way too much when it comes to processed, highly caloric food. Not to mention that your typical out-of-shape joe -- PF's target clientele -- is generally less informed when it comes to calories and the amount of effort required to burn them off.Sassie_Lassie wrote: »thefuzz1290 wrote: »If you can't afford another gym, then do what you need to. However, make sure you ignore the pizza and bagel days, and pass up the free candy at the front desk. Find a smaller, independent gym. I bet you'll find more encouragement there, then PF.
Why does one need to ignore the pizza and bagels? If it fits in your daily calories then have at it.
Please explain what the difference is between having pizza and bagels or getting a big protein shake at the protein bars some gyms have that probably has as many if not more calories than the pizza and bagels. Is it ok because the shake is "healthy"?
Do you seriously not understand how protein works in building muscle, and how eating bagels (unless they are smothered in piles of lox) is not terribly helpful for hitting a high protein macro level? This kind of proves people's points about PF.
I don't get your point. When my PF offers, I eat a multi grain bagel and Asiago cheese (they are from Panera) and I have no problem hitting my protein goals for that day. Nutritional needs are very individualized.1 -
I'm surprised that more Americans don't take offence at a marketing campaign that brings others down to sell your product
They do that so people do don't go to muscle houses don't feel intimidated.
But over all I agree with you, If you need to make others look bad, then how good are you really?
Well, people recommend the Stronglifts 5x5 program here all the time, and the "creator" (quotes used because he basically stole the program from someone else) has repeatedly made misogynistic comments in his newsletters and on his Facebook.
PF is hardly the only group in the business who use language which disparages others, but people are willing to excuse that behavior if they feel it will get them the results they want. Humans are willing to overlook a lot of things in general if the feel the person or party involved is benefitting them in some way.2 -
PF is hardly the only group in the business who use language which disparages others, but people are willing to excuse that behavior if they feel it will get them the results they want. Humans are willing to overlook a lot of things in general if the feel the person or party involved is benefitting them in some way in general.
I don't contest that. I just don't agree with any-business putting down any other business, to make them look better.
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I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.
sorry, but if you are lifting heavy weight some level of grunting is going to happen ...you can't deadlift 300+ pounds in absolute silence...5 -
I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.
sorry, but if you are lifting heavy weight some level of grunting is going to happen ...you can't deadlift 300+ pounds in absolute silence...
No need to grunt at PF as they don't have 300+ lbs to lift. If someone is grunting at PF they most likely are being obnoxious and are the sterotype PF doesn't want as members.0 -
I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.
sorry, but if you are lifting heavy weight some level of grunting is going to happen ...you can't deadlift 300+ pounds in absolute silence...
No need to grunt at PF as they don't have 300+ lbs to lift. If someone is grunting at PF they most likely are being obnoxious and are the sterotype PF doesn't want as members.
Deadlifting any challenging weight causes grunting. It's a natural part of exertion. It doesn't have to be 300+ lbs3 -
20yearsyounger wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Sassie_Lassie wrote: »
The operative word there is "IF." It's common knowledge that your typical American already consumes way too much when it comes to processed, highly caloric food. Not to mention that your typical out-of-shape joe -- PF's target clientele -- is generally less informed when it comes to calories and the amount of effort required to burn them off.Sassie_Lassie wrote: »thefuzz1290 wrote: »If you can't afford another gym, then do what you need to. However, make sure you ignore the pizza and bagel days, and pass up the free candy at the front desk. Find a smaller, independent gym. I bet you'll find more encouragement there, then PF.
Why does one need to ignore the pizza and bagels? If it fits in your daily calories then have at it.
Please explain what the difference is between having pizza and bagels or getting a big protein shake at the protein bars some gyms have that probably has as many if not more calories than the pizza and bagels. Is it ok because the shake is "healthy"?
Do you seriously not understand how protein works in building muscle, and how eating bagels (unless they are smothered in piles of lox) is not terribly helpful for hitting a high protein macro level? This kind of proves people's points about PF.
I don't get your point. When my PF offers, I eat a multi grain bagel and Asiago cheese (they are from Panera) and I have no problem hitting my protein goals for that day. Nutritional needs are very individualized.
"Do You Even Lift?"
In your case I note that you are a serious runner, but not a lifter, and naturally nutritional needs are individualized, but the split on PF attitudes comes down to DYEL.
To spell it out in greater detail, the poster seemed puzzled as to why serious lifting gyms offered protein shakes, thereby demonstrating ignorance of the basic function of the macro, while very vocally advocating for PF. I suspect PF is not going to be much of a help in educating her, and also suspect there are probably many hapless PF members diligently lifting weights and, sadly, not getting the results they should because the nutrition is just not there. Admittedly I am basing this on comment threads where grown-*kitten* men also mistake smith machines for squat racks, so my previous agnosticism on PF is tipping more and more into amusement over the spectacle.
As a woman who lifts, I find it to be a very challenging macro. On my lifting days, between a 12-oz sirloin and two protein shakes, and a lot of other food, I can generally get in the ballpark of hitting my protein macro. Shakes are particularly helpful on days when I think I am going to barf if I have to see another chicken breast.
And...in the spirit of lifting, I think we can all enjoy these words of broscience wisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs 2 -
singingflutelady wrote: »I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.
sorry, but if you are lifting heavy weight some level of grunting is going to happen ...you can't deadlift 300+ pounds in absolute silence...
No need to grunt at PF as they don't have 300+ lbs to lift. If someone is grunting at PF they most likely are being obnoxious and are the sterotype PF doesn't want as members.
Deadlifting any challenging weight causes grunting. It's a natural part of exertion. It doesn't have to be 300+ lbs
You can't deadlift at PF so it doesn't matter.2 -
That's too bad since deadlifts are one of the best strength exercises you can do.6
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I'm surprised that more Americans don't take offence at a marketing campaign that brings others down to sell your product
They do that so people do don't go to muscle houses don't feel intimidated.
But over all I agree with you, If you need to make others look bad, then how good are you really?
Well, people recommend the Stronglifts 5x5 program here all the time, and the "creator" (quotes used because he basically stole the program from someone else) has repeatedly made misogynistic comments in his newsletters and on his Facebook.
PF is hardly the only group in the business who use language which disparages others, but people are willing to excuse that behavior if they feel it will get them the results they want. Humans are willing to overlook a lot of things in general if the feel the person or party involved is benefitting them in some way.
I was not aware of either of these accusations before and can't find any substantive proof
On the website he clearly states that he is not the creator:
"Stronglifts 5×5 is based on Reg Park’s 5×5 routine. He was the first guy to write about 5×5 in 1960. That means people were doing 5×5 before I was born. I didn’t invent this.
Read more: http://stronglifts.com/about/"
I've not seen any reports on mysoginism from this site...would you care to share examples?
If this is true then it is important to share
If it's false then it's rather defamatory1 -
That is truly awesome--congratulations!!
Now that you have lost so much weight...imagine the progress you would make if you put on a plate or two and supplemented your biking with benches, squats and deadlifts. What would you look like after a year? What would you look like now if you had been doing that all along?
I am kicking myself for not knowing about the amazing impact that lifting has a year earlier...or ten or 20 years ago. This is what they mean by progress.4 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »20yearsyounger wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Sassie_Lassie wrote: »
The operative word there is "IF." It's common knowledge that your typical American already consumes way too much when it comes to processed, highly caloric food. Not to mention that your typical out-of-shape joe -- PF's target clientele -- is generally less informed when it comes to calories and the amount of effort required to burn them off.Sassie_Lassie wrote: »thefuzz1290 wrote: »If you can't afford another gym, then do what you need to. However, make sure you ignore the pizza and bagel days, and pass up the free candy at the front desk. Find a smaller, independent gym. I bet you'll find more encouragement there, then PF.
Why does one need to ignore the pizza and bagels? If it fits in your daily calories then have at it.
Please explain what the difference is between having pizza and bagels or getting a big protein shake at the protein bars some gyms have that probably has as many if not more calories than the pizza and bagels. Is it ok because the shake is "healthy"?
Do you seriously not understand how protein works in building muscle, and how eating bagels (unless they are smothered in piles of lox) is not terribly helpful for hitting a high protein macro level? This kind of proves people's points about PF.
I don't get your point. When my PF offers, I eat a multi grain bagel and Asiago cheese (they are from Panera) and I have no problem hitting my protein goals for that day. Nutritional needs are very individualized.
"Do You Even Lift?"
In your case I note that you are a serious runner, but not a lifter, and naturally nutritional needs are individualized, but the split on PF attitudes comes down to DYEL.
To spell it out in greater detail, the poster seemed puzzled as to why serious lifting gyms offered protein shakes, thereby demonstrating ignorance of the basic function of the macro, while very vocally advocating for PF. I suspect PF is not going to be much of a help in educating her, and also suspect there are probably many hapless PF members diligently lifting weights and, sadly, not getting the results they should because the nutrition is just not there. Admittedly I am basing this on comment threads where grown-*kitten* men also mistake smith machines for squat racks, so my previous agnosticism on PF is tipping more and more into amusement over the spectacle.
As a woman who lifts, I find it to be a very challenging macro. On my lifting days, between a 12-oz sirloin and two protein shakes, and a lot of other food, I can generally get in the ballpark of hitting my protein macro. Shakes are particularly helpful on days when I think I am going to barf if I have to see another chicken breast.
And...in the spirit of lifting, I think we can all enjoy these words of broscience wisdom:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs
I do lift but my lifting is for different reasons and therefore I have different needs. I can still easily get 200g of protein eating pizza and bagels and fit all my macros. My point is the assumption should not be that everyone that uses PF needs to just focus on lifting the heaviest they can possibly lift. Understandable if that is your goal, then PF is not for you. I also understand comments about the marketing. What I will never get is putting everyone in the same category or saying that you can't hit your macros eating pizza or bagels.1 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »
That is truly awesome--congratulations!!
Now that you have lost so much weight...imagine the progress you would make if you put on a plate or two and supplemented your biking with benches, squats and deadlifts. What would you look like after a year? What would you look like now if you had been doing that all along?
I am kicking myself for not knowing about the amazing impact that lifting has a year earlier...or ten or 20 years ago. This is what they mean by progress.
I think he looks great now.5 -
Nope not for me. I would rather spend the same $20 a month and get all the lifting equipment I need. Retro Fitness.0
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jmbmilholland wrote: »
That is truly awesome--congratulations!!
Now that you have lost so much weight...imagine the progress you would make if you put on a plate or two and supplemented your biking with benches, squats and deadlifts. What would you look like after a year? What would you look like now if you had been doing that all along?
I am kicking myself for not knowing about the amazing impact that lifting has a year earlier...or ten or 20 years ago. This is what they mean by progress.
I am Squatting around 180 pounds plus the bar, and Doing the Incline Seat at 210 plus my body weight.
Not to mention the Top left picture & Bottom Right picture were taken 1 calendar year apart from each other. That's every two months I snapped a new picture.2 -
I guess it depends on what you are looking for. I went with a friend who joined, because it was cheap. I would not join personally, as it's not set up for what I need. They did have those stupid signs, and the lunk alarm.0
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I should also note I have seen some very muscular people lifting at our PF. "Lunk" according to what they have posted means grunting real loud, or dropping/clanging the weights, so as to show off or annoy others. They are trying to get people to be courteous and not d-bags. But like I said I have never heard the alarm in my current location. "not judging" means you don't snark the other customers or tell them what to do, once again, just don't be a d-bag. It's not a place to run around flexing with a selfie stick lol, you go there to work out is all.
sorry, but if you are lifting heavy weight some level of grunting is going to happen ...you can't deadlift 300+ pounds in absolute silence...
No need to grunt at PF as they don't have 300+ lbs to lift. If someone is grunting at PF they most likely are being obnoxious and are the sterotype PF doesn't want as members.
You have obviously never trained hard then. If you can't handle someone breathing heavy during a workout, I feel as if you have issues.5
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