What's the biggest weight-loss lie you've ever heard?
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This sure turned dark fast...
Here's one to get it back on track: Samples from Sam's Club or Costco don't count.11 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
A blatant statement like that needs CREDIBLE resources to back it up.
Otherwise, you're just misinformed.
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
Now you've done it.
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BUY THIS.....fill in the blank, that is the biggest lie.8
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
That's silly. My diet usually contains more vegetables than most people consider possible to eat, but easter week was a very busy time and I existed almost exclusively on chocolate. My weight loss was no different than usual. So what if you insulin spikes? Even for diabetics it has almost nothing to do with weight loss.16 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
With health and nutrition yes, but not with weight loss. It's like the age old question, "what weighs more 100lb of feathers or 100lb of gold"15 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
Nutritionally, sure, or if you have health issues such that eating some sugar without fiber is a problem (it's not for most people with normal insulin responses).
But since CICO does not (obviously) mean all foods are the same for all purposes (in other words, a calorie is a calorie DOES NOT mean a food is a food), and you really have to be willfully trying to misinterpret what people say to think otherwise, this has nothing to do with the validity of CICO.
For weight loss calories are what matter. What helps people with the mental side of keeping calories in check is individual, and therefore claiming that eating a candy bar is a problem in general is false.
(Also, the idea of choosing between a candy bar and vegetables is just bizarre. I eat vegetables with all meals, ideally. I might have some high quality chocolate as a snack after a meal. I would never sacrifice a balanced normal meal or a component of it for the treat, and I think it's odd to think people typically would.)9 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
People say 100 cals of carrots is equal to 100 cals of candy as far as weight loss is concerned and that is very true.
Weight loss comes down to calories
Calories in - calories out
Nowhere in that above statement is nutrition mentioned. It is said in the context of weight loss. Weight loss is caused by a calorie deficit and that's fact. There's no way around it. If you decide not to believe it, that's on you but please do not go about spreading more false information. Spreading false info only further confuses newcomers who come here desperate to lose weight.
My point is - nobody ever said 100 cals of candy is nutritionally equal to 100 cals of vegetables.
People did And do say that 100 cals of candy is the same as 100 cals of vegetables as far as weight loss goes because that it in fact true.
If I ate 1500 cals of candy I would still lose weight because I would be at a calorie deficit. Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Obviously I wouldn't have a well balanced diet by eating 1500 cals of candy per day and it surely wouldn't be a healthy sustainable way of eating but I would still lose weight. Calories in - calories out.
You seem to be very misunderstood about weight loss and nutrition and are only confusing others by posting misinformation.23 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
Exactly. So odd that people pretend that this is what CICO is supposed to mean. Why make up a silly strawman?11 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
Exactly. So odd that people pretend that this is what CICO is supposed to mean. Why make up a silly strawman?
Its indeed silly and could potentially confuse newcomers. People often stumble upon this site without understanding how to lose weight. They come here seeking any information to help them along. When people post incorrect information, it further confuses people.6 -
Sadly..that you don't have to count calories on a low carb diet
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This sure turned dark fast...
Here's one to get it back on track: Samples from Sam's Club or Costco don't count.
Damn, grazing has to be counted. That's why I hit Costco early in the day, before the sample people get set up. I just wish they'd quit venting the bakery exhaust into to store so you don't smell all those cookies and stuff while you're shopping. And to again get back on track:
DETOX....3 -
"losing weight is the easy part-Keeping it off is hard..." BS losing is no easy task!!!!2
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"if you work out less than 30 minutes it will not help because you won't start burning carbs until then."
Oh I see, I am burning carbs you say? and my body keeps time? Let me take notes.5 -
That ____ (insert any food here) is bad for you when losing weight.
Co-worker of mine went gluten-free and of course she lost weight, mostly because she was eating considerably less gluten-free than she did prior. She, of course started pushing it on me, especially since SO has crohn's. She was miffed when I told her that we wouldn't be going gluten-free and that most GF alternatives actually cause reactions with his crohn's. She still doesn't understand how I'm losing weight just counting calories. She thinks I'm just not telling her my big "diet secret" lmao.4 -
in...just because I am going to see how long it takes for this to crash and burn.
CICO for weight loss
Macros for health and fitness.
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Fat makes you fat.
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
You should call all the physics book publishers and tell them to strike the parts about Conservation of Energy. It's a myth after all.15 -
Cut sugar out and eat clean.
Ha! when I did that, I was 260lbs and stayed that way.. Enter CICO and the weight came off.7
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