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The Sugar Conspiracy

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  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    snikkins wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    Definitely buying it for the sugar+fat+protein combo. The lack of fat is why fruit sorbet is such a sad, miserable imposter of a dessert.

    You take that back! Sorbet has a time and a place, such as in the middle of summer so I can also have ice cream later. :wink:

    Is it chocolate sorbet? That stuff's ok. I'd rather eat celery than raspberry or lemon sorbet, and I hate celery so much I pick it out of soup. I appreciate the strategy, but that's what froyo's for!

    Mm. Froyo. I'm basically an equal opportunity frozen dessert consumer, to be quite honest.
  • MissusMoon
    MissusMoon Posts: 1,900 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    What do they have to do with shilling for weight loss dollars?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    ben-jerry-dublin-mudslide-ice-cream-nutrition.jpg

    Half the calories in B&J are from fat.

    I can never find this flavor anymore. I think they discontinued it or it was just a short-term thing.

    THANKS A LOT for reminding me about it.

    ;-)
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.

    They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:

    Occupy!

    When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.

    And look at their adorable car:

    y1dm7v52ium0.jpg
  • moe0303
    moe0303 Posts: 934 Member
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    SMH. This is funny.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.

    They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:

    Occupy!

    When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.

    And look at their adorable car:

    y1dm7v52ium0.jpg

    On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.

    635991721525025718-ben-jerry-s-co-founders-unveil-newest-ice-cream-flavor-to-kick-off--democracy-is-in-your-hands--null-HR.jpg
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    snikkins wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.

    They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:

    Occupy!

    When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.

    And look at their adorable car:

    y1dm7v52ium0.jpg

    On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.

    635991721525025718-ben-jerry-s-co-founders-unveil-newest-ice-cream-flavor-to-kick-off--democracy-is-in-your-hands--null-HR.jpg

    That sounds like a delicious flavor.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.

    They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:

    Occupy!

    When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.

    And look at their adorable car:

    y1dm7v52ium0.jpg

    On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.

    635991721525025718-ben-jerry-s-co-founders-unveil-newest-ice-cream-flavor-to-kick-off--democracy-is-in-your-hands--null-HR.jpg

    That sounds like a delicious flavor.

    Right? It's limited release... hoping to be able to find some or else I'll be a sad panda. :(
  • MissusMoon
    MissusMoon Posts: 1,900 Member
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    I love those Ben and Jerry mini-cups. I have a couple of Cherry Garcia's in my freezer now. And I'm still losing weight.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    edited May 2016
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    nvmomketo wrote: »
    At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.

    LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.

    I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.

    In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.

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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    moe0303 wrote: »
    SMH. This is funny.

    It was intended to be. Not serious.
  • moe0303
    moe0303 Posts: 934 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    moe0303 wrote: »
    SMH. This is funny.

    It was intended to be. Not serious.

    Understood. Look at that. we agree again.
  • moe0303
    moe0303 Posts: 934 Member
    edited May 2016
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    UpEarly wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.

    LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.

    I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.

    In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.

    9vosgb320z85.jpg


    For info purposes, this day it was closer to 32% (probably less since all of your 141 net carbs were probably not sugar)...which is still considerably more than the WHO guideline provided by someone up the thread. I think it was like 10%.

    ETA: But then again, I think you were below the daily recommend carbs. I can't look it up now, but isn't it like 40/30/30? I don't if there is a way to estimate sugar.

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    moe0303 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    moe0303 wrote: »
    SMH. This is funny.

    It was intended to be. Not serious.

    Understood. Look at that. we agree again.

    Well, don't make a habit of it.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    edited May 2016
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    moe0303 wrote: »
    UpEarly wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.

    LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.

    I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.

    In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.

    9vosgb320z85.jpg


    For info purposes, this day it was closer to 32% (probably less since all of your 141 net carbs were probably not sugar)...which is still considerably more than the WHO guideline provided by someone up the thread. I think it was like 10%.

    I guess I've never felt compelled to limit carbs or even be exact about macros. Days vary, but my average over my 5 years on MFP is about 50 carbs/15 protein/35 fat. It works for me! :-)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,395 MFP Moderator
    edited May 2016
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    moe0303 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    moe0303 wrote: »
    SMH. This is funny.

    It was intended to be. Not serious.

    Understood. Look at that. we agree again.

    Well, don't make a habit of it.

    I know right.. otherwise i will have nothing to do... >:)
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,134 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    you can't make millions of dollars telling people sugar is OK

    Ben and Jerry are starving artists. True story?

    And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.

    So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles! :)

    ben-jerry-dublin-mudslide-ice-cream-nutrition.jpg

    Half the calories in B&J are from fat.

    Sweet... it's low in sodium... win!!!!

    Now if it didn't cost $8 a pint.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    As I thought, Dublin Mudslide is in the Flavor Graveyard. These are pretty funny, in case someone else wishes to explore them:

    http://www.benjerry.com/flavors/flavor-graveyard