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The Sugar Conspiracy
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NorthCascades wrote: »
I don't think their business model is telling people sugar is OK. It's making ice cream, which has a nice combination of sugar and fat.
ETA: I like peanut butter, but only with something. I find it too dry to eat by itself. The Hubster, however, vehemently disagrees with me.2 -
The Sugar Conspiracy!!!!!!
All this time...who knew...That Mary Poppins was really a covert infiltrator for big sugar!!!!
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NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
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NorthCascades wrote: »
I'm not understanding what you are saying here. Is it that a company made a product, sold that product, and profited from it? And that product happened to have, as one of its ingredients, sugar? Or is there something more sinister you are alluding to?2 -
NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Half the calories in B&J are from fat.5 -
NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Definitely buying it for the sugar+fat+protein combo. The lack of fat is why fruit sorbet is such a sad, miserable imposter of a dessert.5 -
stevencloser wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Half the calories in B&J are from fat.
Sweet... it's low in sodium... win!!!!6 -
mskessler89 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Definitely buying it for the sugar+fat+protein combo. The lack of fat is why fruit sorbet is such a sad, miserable imposter of a dessert.
You take that back! Sorbet has a time and a place, such as in the middle of summer so I can also have ice cream later.
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NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Oh, I thought they were making money telling people sugar was ok. You are concerned that people are buying their product? That's not solid sugar? And this is a conspiracy?
30 years ago fat was vilified, and now everyone is up in arms because there is such a huge mentality about fat being included in a healthy diet (a food high in fat cannot include the word "healthy" on the label according to the FDA). But it seems like those same people have no problem slapping the same label on sugar.
Perhaps everyone should just focus on getting the majority of their foods from whole, nutritious foods while setting aside a small portion of their calories for treats that they choose to enjoy but may not fall into that category.1 -
mskessler89 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Definitely buying it for the sugar+fat+protein combo. The lack of fat is why fruit sorbet is such a sad, miserable imposter of a dessert.
You take that back! Sorbet has a time and a place, such as in the middle of summer so I can also have ice cream later.
Is it chocolate sorbet? That stuff's ok. I'd rather eat celery than raspberry or lemon sorbet, and I hate celery so much I pick it out of soup. I appreciate the strategy, but that's what froyo's for!0 -
Oh, sorry I posted the wrong image.
This is the truth.
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mskessler89 wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Definitely buying it for the sugar+fat+protein combo. The lack of fat is why fruit sorbet is such a sad, miserable imposter of a dessert.
You take that back! Sorbet has a time and a place, such as in the middle of summer so I can also have ice cream later.
Is it chocolate sorbet? That stuff's ok. I'd rather eat celery than raspberry or lemon sorbet, and I hate celery so much I pick it out of soup. I appreciate the strategy, but that's what froyo's for!
Mm. Froyo. I'm basically an equal opportunity frozen dessert consumer, to be quite honest.1 -
NorthCascades wrote: »
What do they have to do with shilling for weight loss dollars?1 -
stevencloser wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Half the calories in B&J are from fat.
I can never find this flavor anymore. I think they discontinued it or it was just a short-term thing.
THANKS A LOT for reminding me about it.
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NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.
They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:
Occupy!
When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.
And look at their adorable car:
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SMH. This is funny.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.
They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:
Occupy!
When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.
And look at their adorable car:
On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.
They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:
Occupy!
When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.
And look at their adorable car:
On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.
That sounds like a delicious flavor.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
They are in VT, so probably socialists anyway.
They apparently gave their ice cream to oppose the 1%:
Occupy!
When protestors in New York City and other places take to the streets under the Occupy Wall Street banner in the fall of 2011 to rally against increasing economic inequality in the United States, high unemployment, mortgage fraud, and too much corporate influence in American politics, Ben & Jerry’s Board of Directors issues a direct statement of solidarity, and we show up in Zucotti Park on several occasions to scoop ice cream for Occupiers.
And look at their adorable car:
On top of that, they want you to be able to exercise your right to vote! Rude.
That sounds like a delicious flavor.
Right? It's limited release... hoping to be able to find some or else I'll be a sad panda.
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I love those Ben and Jerry mini-cups. I have a couple of Cherry Garcia's in my freezer now. And I'm still losing weight.3
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At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.
LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.
I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.
In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
Understood. Look at that. we agree again.0 -
At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.
LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.
I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.
In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.
For info purposes, this day it was closer to 32% (probably less since all of your 141 net carbs were probably not sugar)...which is still considerably more than the WHO guideline provided by someone up the thread. I think it was like 10%.
ETA: But then again, I think you were below the daily recommend carbs. I can't look it up now, but isn't it like 40/30/30? I don't if there is a way to estimate sugar.
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At best, I see sugar as neutral in terms of health. At worst, I see it as contributing to health problems. Same thing goes for weight management. I doubt there are many out there who can lose weight with relative ease while eating a high sugar diet.
LOL - I guess I'm that exception! When I was actively losing weight (I'm at goal and have been for over four years). I ate double (sometimes triple) the sugar that MFP recommended. Candy, cupcakes, cookies, ice cream, sweetened yogurt, and fruit were all major players in my day-to-day diet. I just stayed within my calorie goal and the weight came off reliably, steadily, and effortlessly. In the end, I lost about 60 pounds.
I went back and randomly picked a day from 2011 - when I was working on losing weight. Chocolate pastry for breakfast - pineapple, strawberries, candy at lunch - two sugar cookies for a snack. I'd say that was a pretty typical day during my weight loss phase. It came out to 1836 calories and I came fairly close to all my macro goals. I probably eat less sugar and more vegetables now, in my current weight maintenance phase . I'm not sure why - maybe my food preferences have just evolved. I still do 50-55% of my calories from carbs, and I still don't track sugar or carbs in my diary.
In case it matters... I'm 44, 5'9" and weigh somewhere between 135-140lbs. My doctor is very pleased with my health. So... for me, it really all did come down to CICO.
For info purposes, this day it was closer to 32% (probably less since all of your 141 net carbs were probably not sugar)...which is still considerably more than the WHO guideline provided by someone up the thread. I think it was like 10%.
I guess I've never felt compelled to limit carbs or even be exact about macros. Days vary, but my average over my 5 years on MFP is about 50 carbs/15 protein/35 fat. It works for me! :-)2 -
This stuff will never make it into my house again! I bought a jar in the morning and it was empty by that same evening :blushing:
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stevencloser wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »
And here I thought ice cream was a combination of fat, protein, and sugar. Thanks for enlightening everyone.
So Ben and Jerry didn't get rich selling sugar. Learn something new every day. I guess everybody is buying iced cream for the protein content and just like they were reading playboy for the articles!
Half the calories in B&J are from fat.
Sweet... it's low in sodium... win!!!!
Now if it didn't cost $8 a pint.2 -
As I thought, Dublin Mudslide is in the Flavor Graveyard. These are pretty funny, in case someone else wishes to explore them:
http://www.benjerry.com/flavors/flavor-graveyard2
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