Do you believe in fate ?
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Mr_Stabbems wrote: »No but I do believe in a thing called love
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I don't know if it's our innate longing to see patterns in order to analyze situations/people/things or if it's really some kind of cosmic force (note: I am not, by any means, religious), but there have always been weird things that were almost too coincidental happening in my life. I can look back and see how every situation emptied into the next, like a river into an ocean-- just for a quick, easy example: My last partner's father moved to Jamaica and lived there half of the year (which is uncommon here-- we live in Kentucky and he is white), and then I met my now-partner, who is actually half Jamaican. Little patterns have always existed for my life. So, who knows.1
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MsAmandaNJ wrote: »I don't believe in fate as I don't believe in God. I think things happen and we either attach meaning to them or not, to varying degrees. There are people I meet and instantly know they're important to my life, although it takes time to see why - learning is the fun part.
if you truly believe then you believe that god knows beginning to end....fate. just saying0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »wolverine66 wrote: »Mr_Stabbems wrote: »kate141987 wrote: »All I know is that the thought that my ideas, opinions and decisions may not be my own or are controlled by some outside source brings me all kinds of anxiety. Thanks OP.
Well I think your ideas and thoughts are your own but I'd like to think that at times 'fate, the universe or whatever interviens to help you out. Some might call it good luck or good fortune of course bad stuff happens as well but since I'm trying to remain positive I was focussing on the good stuff cos nobody likes bad stuff
I love how folks believe the universe takes time out of its busy schedule to give us an extra latte....
The universe gave me an extra medium fry at Wendy's last night.
Damned universe never did anything for me!
Well, except that I was born in an industrialized country to reasonably well educated parents, with a decent brain, and my health . . .
But other than that! I NEED free fries . . .
well, now i feel bad for throwing about half away.
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Considering I managed to find my fiancée when we lived 10 hrs apart at the beginning, I would say I definitely believe in fate.1
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_A_Real_Mouthful wrote: »jbconnelly wrote: »Anybody else find it a bit odd that we can discuss believing in God or not, but the mere mention of Trump v Hilary and the thread is gone in a flash? Religion = Good, Politics = Bad. Got it!
not really- this one has *almost* turned hostile once or twice already. once it completely breaks down it'll get locked too. unless we can somehow divert everybody's attention and remind them this is only the internet and everybody just needs to lighten up francis.
It hasn't turned hostile though. I think it's pretty cool to see people's different ways at looking at beliefs didn't know there was so many
Hey, I agree. I wasn't saying it should be deleted. I don't care what people want to talk about. I just thought it was weird they would allow this but not a political discussion, that's all.1 -
khaleesikhaleesi wrote: »I don't know if it's our innate longing to see patterns in order to analyze situations/people/things or if it's really some kind of cosmic force (note: I am not, by any means, religious), but there have always been weird things that were almost too coincidental happening in my life. I can look back and see how every situation emptied into the next, like a river into an ocean-- just for a quick, easy example: My last partner's father moved to Jamaica and lived there half of the year (which is uncommon here-- we live in Kentucky and he is white), and then I met my now-partner, who is actually half Jamaican. Little patterns have always existed for my life. So, who knows.
The Shadow knows.0 -
I don't believe in destiny
Or the guiding hand of fate
I don't believe in forever
Or love as a mystical state
I don't believe in the stars or the planets
Or angels watching from above
But I believe there's a ghost of a chance we can find someone to love
And make it last...1 -
Everything happens for a reason, whether we understand it or not.2
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No, I do not believe in fate. I believe in science.5
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peppermintpudgy wrote: »
This has to be some kid of clue, but what does it mean?
The tiger has cleverly convinced the piglets to climb onto his back for a "photoshoot"
But really they're dinner
He is literally bringing home the bacon
Took me ages to think that up lol0 -
sunn_lighter wrote: »Mr_Stabbems wrote: »kate141987 wrote: »Ok so let's say God didn't create the earth or man, let's look at what we know 100% what did man create?
The wheel
Cars
Fancy houses
iPhone
Greed
People say if there is a god why are so many people in the world suffering still?
I say that's probably down to man being greedy and nothing to do with God
Religion
Medicine
Charity
The written word
Maths
Science
Babies (technically women)
Music!!!!!!!!
the list goes on and on, it could easily be bombs, blah blah
agriculture
food preservation
indoor plumbing
ethics
the internet
Don't forget God man created God coz like the normal sheeple that we are somebody has to Shepherd us throughout our lives
What I find amusing is that the same people who cry for tolerance and diversity are the same people who are the most intolerant of anyone else's beliefs especially those of Christianity.4 -
sunn_lighter wrote: »Mr_Stabbems wrote: »kate141987 wrote: »Ok so let's say God didn't create the earth or man, let's look at what we know 100% what did man create?
The wheel
Cars
Fancy houses
iPhone
Greed
People say if there is a god why are so many people in the world suffering still?
I say that's probably down to man being greedy and nothing to do with God
Religion
Medicine
Charity
The written word
Maths
Science
Babies (technically women)
Music!!!!!!!!
the list goes on and on, it could easily be bombs, blah blah
agriculture
food preservation
indoor plumbing
ethics
the internet
Don't forget God man created God coz like the normal sheeple that we are somebody has to Shepherd us throughout our lives
What I find amusing is that the same people who cry for tolerance and diversity are the same people who are the most intolerant of anyone else's beliefs especially those of Christianity.
Tolerance of diversity is necessary for society to function (and allow us to make a claim of legitimacy and fairness) and it is focused on the core of who people are in terms of mostly immutable characteristics (gender, ethnic background, original nationality, and sexual persuasion). Religion is a belief system that has no logical or scientific basis. Now, to be clear I am a strong proponent of the US First Amendment, and freedom of religion, but belief is not above criticism, and it seems logical to me to ban discrimination against people for immutable characteristics such as the above even if it conflicts with others' religious beliefs (which are all fine and dandy but again don't seem to have any basis in logic or science). That said, the above post that you responded to wasn't exactly what I would call well put together or mature.
That's my 2 cents on that subject.1 -
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kate141987 wrote: »I do, iv had a few things happen in my life that seem as if they were meant to be, situations that I just think are too meaningful to explain away as being purely 'coincidence'
Every day you have choices.Your choices lead you down certain paths . Bad choice =bad path . Good choice = good path . There is a universal path . The more you open yourself up to the universe , the more the universe will open itself up to you . Taking action , overcoming fears , taking risks is the key .
Even as a collective there is a path . People that live in bad countries at some stage made a choice as a collective to not stand up for themselves , vote in the wrong people , or let themselves get taking over by a dictator or some religious state .
There is always a path , choose wisely as an individual and choose wisely as a collective .
Just last week i decided to make a split decision choice to visit a place i did not go in a long time and i ended up meeting a great person . Your choices, your action taking and tossing your fears aside will determine the outcome of your life .1 -
Yes. My husband and both of my daughter's are my perfect examples.3
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Fate is like good luck. There is no such thing. But there are things like commitment and hard work that are real.0
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I believe in me. The rest of you, and god, and all that, are just figments of my vast imagination1
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sunn_lighter wrote: »"Tolerance" has become the calling for acceptance for the most progressive ideas while at the same time labeling traditional perspectives as bigoted, hateful, and intolerant.
In its purest form, tolerance is a fair attitude toward those who have different viewpoints or opinions from your own. The left reject that form of tolerance.
but i tolerant you
RELIGION AND POLITICS?!
this thread has it all!
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billglitch wrote: »MsAmandaNJ wrote: »I don't believe in fate as I don't believe in God. I think things happen and we either attach meaning to them or not, to varying degrees. There are people I meet and instantly know they're important to my life, although it takes time to see why - learning is the fun part.
if you truly believe then you believe that god knows beginning to end....fate. just saying
Truly believe what? I used the phrase "I don't believe" twice. Just saying.0 -
wolverine66 wrote: »Mr_Stabbems wrote: »kate141987 wrote: »All I know is that the thought that my ideas, opinions and decisions may not be my own or are controlled by some outside source brings me all kinds of anxiety. Thanks OP.
Well I think your ideas and thoughts are your own but I'd like to think that at times 'fate, the universe or whatever interviens to help you out. Some might call it good luck or good fortune of course bad stuff happens as well but since I'm trying to remain positive I was focussing on the good stuff cos nobody likes bad stuff
I love how folks believe the universe takes time out of its busy schedule to give us an extra latte....
The universe gave me an extra medium fry at Wendy's last night.
I always get extra *kitten* from Taco Bell.0 -
This thread is really interesting, and I'm a little sad to do it, but this thread is closed because... reasons. Like these:15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
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I was going to say something witty about kismet, but I need another cup of coffee before my brain kicks in. If y'all want to start another thread about fate, feel free. As long as it stays free of 'divisive topics', it'll stay open. Or maybe all discussions about fate are fated to become divisive. I don't know... coffee. Need it.
Happy Freaking Saturday, y'all.
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