FDA approves weight loss stomach pump device
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »So this has to be done 30 minutes after eating, does this mean Resturaunt bathrooms with be consumed by people pumping their stomachs? The concept makes me a little queasy, walking in and hearing/smelling it would probably make me vomit.
I took care of a friend who was dying of cancer. They had a j-tube to get nutrients as they had esophageal cancer that had spread to their stomachs. It was not a pleseant experience for them having to live with the tube, and I really don't foresee many people being able to maintain stomach pumping as it is going to be more involved than they anticipate, and it's very inconvenient to live with a tube in your gut, regardless of the port. While it sounds quick and easy, having to functionally live with this is a totally different issue, one that I don't think many people will be able to tolerate.
I have my opinions on this procedure, and all the points I could make have been said in this thread so I'm not going to parrot other posts. For whoever gets this done I wish them the best of luck and hope it works out for them.
Instead of a doggie bag they hand you a vomit bag so you can dump while the waiter is getting your check.
This made me laugh harder than it should have.
It's even funnier when you read it in Kermit's voice!0 -
I have not read the conversation, but if you are required to a follow a supervised "lifestyle" program for this method to be successful as per this article, then what's the point? Couldn't you just follow said supervised lifestyle program (dietitian) and lose weight without it?
Forget the risks, the very short term lackluster results (equivalent to a 250 calorie deficit or less for a 200 pound person), or the redundancy of such a procedure.. why on earth would I want to stand in the bathroom doing nothing but smelling puke for a whole 10 minutes after every meal? People may see potential for abuse, I see potential for compliance issues.4 -
As a former bulimic, I hate that my mind immediately jumps to "God I wish I had one." Sigh... As a rational person, I think it's pretty terrible. Still not as terrible as that torture device that I remember being advertised at my orthodontist's office as a kid. They would literally wire your jaw shut so that you had to eat a liquid diet.... But this one is a close second in terribleness.10
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I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=198409230
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I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
That makes the hair on my neck stand on end... yet it's still not as disturbingly nauseating as the stomach pump idea.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
That makes the hair on my neck stand on end... yet it's still not as disturbingly nauseating as the stomach pump idea.
Well, you could use the pump to lose, and then once you hit goal, you can have the patch sewn on as a forcible measure to prevent overeating.
Then, you never have utilize will power, self control, or effort.2 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
OMG. I can't believe the things some people will do to lose weight. So sick and pitiful.
Much easier, and may be more sustainable in the long run, just to learn portion control & moderation.
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This upsets me. All it is is reverse bulimia.I don't understand why people are worrying about eating disorders. Do they worry about eating disorders for bariatric surgery? This has the same general requirements - must be at a high BMI, must have tried to lose weight through other means, must be in a situation where weight loss is the most healthy thing they can do for themselves. It seems like completely unnecessary worry, people looking for reasons to be angry at this device because they think it's gross without actually being logical about it. In fact, this is just the feeding tube given to anorexic patients in reverse, and without inpatient. Seems like a great tool for someone with BED or other kinds of disordered binge eating.
I think it's gross but I might think differently if I had a BMI of 45 and had been struggling for years to lose weight and knew that if I didn't lose weight I would be in mortal danger very soon. You know what's also gross? Colostomy bags. That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist; it just means that medical intervention is sometimes necessarily gross.
Man, the people on this forum are so judgy and irrational sometimes.
No. They're. Not.
This tool is reverse bulimia-instead of getting rid of the food by throwing it up, you are emptying it out of your stomach via a tube. Sure, that eliminates the stomach acid irritating your throat and causing future medical issues, including the possibility of throat cancer from too much acid in your throat.
I was severely overweight when I was bulimic as a teen and young adult (treated, been in remission for over 30 years), so this tool would have worked just fine for me. It would have been the perfect way to avoid the elephant in my living room (no pun intended).
Also, it seems to me that a person who obviously has an eating problem has the green light to continue overeating. Well, getting rid of the food is not the problem to obesity, overeating is. So, this tool is just a band aid to a problem that needs to be dealt with.
People have the choice of whether to eat too much or not.
AS for the colostomy bags, those are because people can't poop in the normal way anymore, usually due to having a good part of their colon removed from cancer. The bag is there because of a serious medical condition. It's not even in the same ballpark as a tube in your stomach to get rid of food.9 -
If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won2
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suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Your not meant to eat crap with wls but I know many who do/did and lie to their doctors(not surprisingly they didnt do well)...with any wls it all depends on the honesty and willingness to change of the person undergoing the procedure.1 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
As horrific as that is, that article is unintentionally funny in places.1 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way would I ever do the tongue patch2 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......0 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......
I'm having a bad image of you going somewhere with a significant other and getting looks.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?0 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......
I'm having a bad image of you going somewhere with a significant other and getting looks.
Oh that was fun......I've never made an assumption about why a person looks bruised and battered since.1 -
MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.0 -
I was at the MALL today, Sawgrass Mall in Fort Lauderdale and really think we've lost our way. We can't all just eat less and move more--as if that ever worked anyhow for everyone.....
Yes this is a tool that may help many people--not for everyone but from what i've read it is safer and less likely to cause problems than a gastric bypass surgery.
When people are overweight and younger and overeating many of them don't realize how that extra weight will compromise their ability to be mobile during their older years.
So the more options for people the better and not everyone is the same.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
For the life of me, I don't understand why someone would choose this tool to begin.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.
I would guess that a fair amount of people would be inclined to not eat correct portion sizes and moderate their food intake. If they could do this, they would have been able to lose without WLS, or resorting to this new procedure. Bottom line is, in order to keep the weight off, they WILL have to learn to moderate their food consumption. This is a drastic solution, with no guarantees.
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MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
Weight gain maybe? I wonder what action would be taken if a patient were to gain weight while using this? I mean, would they be denied the reset after 115 cycles? Given more intense therapy? Be allowed to continue on anyway? Be given a recommendation for WLS?0 -
snowflake930 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.
I would guess that a fair amount of people would be inclined to not eat correct portion sizes and moderate their food intake. If they could do this, they would have been able to lose without WLS, or resorting to this new procedure. Bottom line is, in order to keep the weight off, they WILL have to learn to moderate their food consumption. This is a drastic solution, with no guarantees.
Yes, I agree. But a lot of people are willing to throw money at a solution, even if there are a lot of risks, but not put in the effort to change in the long term. I don't understand why someone would assume that just because the procedure is risky and expensive, that would guarantee compliance.2 -
snowflake930 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.
I would guess that a fair amount of people would be inclined to not eat correct portion sizes and moderate their food intake. If they could do this, they would have been able to lose without WLS, or resorting to this new procedure. Bottom line is, in order to keep the weight off, they WILL have to learn to moderate their food consumption. This is a drastic solution, with no guarantees.
Yes, I agree. But a lot of people are willing to throw money at a solution, even if there are a lot of risks, but not put in the effort to change in the long term. I don't understand why someone would assume that just because the procedure is risky and expensive, that would guarantee compliance.
Denial, I would guess. Same as for those that want a magic pill or a "special drink or food". A quick fix. Or an easier fix. No matter what, you have to be willing to learn to not eat more calories than you burn.
The long term solution is the same no matter what. You have to learn to not eat more calories than you burn, and move more.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.
Oh I didn't say it wasn't a thing, I said I'm sure some would. I just can't understand, personally, the reasoning behind putting one's health at risk and paying loads of money if they aren't planning to follow through, but that's a different topic. WLS is different though. You get great results, almost immediate improvements in diabetes, and other health benefits if certain surgeries like a knee replacement is planned. The sheer amount you lose on a WLS makes the benefits, however temporary, kind of worth it.
With this device the results are not very good, so a potential sabotage could completely nullify the results. I wonder what the actual study looks like, because if they are eliminating 30% of the calories, which are supposed to not be excessive in the first place and only lost an average of 12% in a whole year then it's not as successful as touted. If we assume the healthy diet they are supposed to eat is approximately 2000 calories in reality they would be absorbing 1400. For a person whose maintenance is more that 2500 the 12% would have taken 4 months or less. I'm interested to see if those who stuck to the program affected the average and if there are people who did not lose, or even gained. I'm curious if it needs one of those "works in conjunction with a healthy diet" disclaimers which often translates to "doesn't work".0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?
No way of knowing I guess.. why would someone pay and risk some unpleasant possible side effects (death is listed as one of them) just to cheat the system and sabotage their results? I'm sure some would, but for the life of me I don't get how they would justify it.
Well, it's more common than you think. My mom got WLS and did not follow the dietary guidelines and chose to not incorporate long term changes and exercise into her routine. She has developed a lot of health problems including vitamin deficiencies, back problems, and has had two heart attacks since.
Plus, she's regained a fair amount of weight. A year and a half ago she decided she needed to lose weight again, and so she had a revision to her surgery. And she still does not exercise or eat properly.
Don't act like it's not a thing.
Oh I didn't say it wasn't a thing, I said I'm sure some would. I just can't understand, personally, the reasoning behind putting one's health at risk and paying loads of money if they aren't planning to follow through, but that's a different topic. WLS is different though. You get great results, almost immediate improvements in diabetes, and other health benefits if certain surgeries like a knee replacement is planned. The sheer amount you lose on a WLS makes the benefits, however temporary, kind of worth it.
With this device the results are not very good, so a potential sabotage could completely nullify the results. I wonder what the actual study looks like, because if they are eliminating 30% of the calories, which are supposed to not be excessive in the first place and only lost an average of 12% in a whole year then it's not as successful as touted. If we assume the healthy diet they are supposed to eat is approximately 2000 calories in reality they would be absorbing 1400. For a person whose maintenance is more that 2500 the 12% would have taken 4 months or less. I'm interested to see if those who stuck to the program affected the average and if there are people who did not lose, or even gained. I'm curious if it needs one of those "works in conjunction with a healthy diet" disclaimers which often translates to "doesn't work".
Ah, gotcha.0
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