Finally found something that works

Kobz27

After 4 years of yo-yo'ing I've found the key. I've been into reading and practicing fitness and nutrition for the past 15 years, and I thought I knew what eating healthy meant, and I've been forced to rethink all the conventional mis-information I had been given.

NSNG - NO SUGAR, NO GRAINS

Read The Obesity code, or read the primal blueprint. There is a joe rogan podcast #752 that has the author of the primal blueprint where he discusses the amazing benefits of this diet and way of life.

My story. I'm 30, but growing up I was in athletics and spent a lot of time at gyms. I was always skinny, and had to work hard putting weight on. But then I was 26 and found myself waking up at 240lbs (I'm only 5'8"). I thought to myself, "I need to work out." So I started going to the gym, started "eating better" using the information about nutrition that everyone typically accepts as fact. Low fat foods, whole grains, fruits and veggies. I dropped 10lbs after a couple of months and then started getting into cycling. I rode hundreds of miles that summer and through the winter and continued on that diet. I got down to 210, but it was a lot of miles of riding. Of course life got in the way and I didn't have time to ride as much anymore. For the next couple of years it was up and down and up and down with the weight slowly, never really coming close to my body's ideal weight (175-185).

I'm on the road a lot. So I listen to podcasts. I heard this new concept of NSNG and it kind of hit me right square in the head. So I started it 61 days ago. I'm down 24 lbs. it's the fastest weight loss I've ever experienced, even beating the month I rode 800 + miles on the bike by a lot.
-I have more energy, and it's more level throughout the day
- I don't have cravings for sweets or grains
- I often am sated to the point where I will miss a meal
- I don't have to count calories

I am seeing many success stories with people who are changing to this and it's awesome. It's even starting to catch on in some areas of the professional sports world.

AJ_G

Kobz27 wrote: »

After 4 years of yo-yo'ing I've found the key...NSNG - NO SUGAR, NO GRAINS

No you haven't lol. A restrictive diet is never "the key". Do you really plan on eliminating sugar and grains from your diet for the rest or your life? No cookies, no cake, no brownies, no candy, no pasta, no cereal, no bread...for the rest of your life? Does that really seem practical or realistic to you. If that's your plan, by all means good luck, but there are better, more enjoyable, and not to mention more effective ways to go about eating healthy.

Kobz27

After 30 days, it doesn't feel restrictive, it feels liberating. And it is very practical for a person who wants to lead a healthy lifestyle.

And what is more effective?

fr33sia12

Kobz27 wrote: »

After 30 days, it doesn't feel restrictive, it feels liberating. And it is very practical for a person who wants to lead a healthy lifestyle.

And what is more effective?

That's exactly how I feel. I haven't cut out grains (not that I have that many anyway), but I have cut down on added sugar and cut out meat (except fish) and am loving how great it makes me feel. To other's yes it does seem restrictive and not enjoyable, but that's because we all have different mindsets. My intention is to lose weight and to be healthy which I want to continue on doing when I reach my goal weight. To me other people still eating pizza and cake and sweets in their diet feels wrong as it wouldn't work for me, I'm not going to tell them they'll fail or that it's wrong though as it may work for them and that's great.

ruth138

Great to hear your story. Like you I came to the same thinking lately. Our world might be full of sugar and grain laden foods but I feel hugely better for giving them a miss and am 4 stone down to boot!

MelaniaTrump

Cutting down sugar is consistent in every single diet that I can think of.
Taking away my brown rice and barley will take an act of god.

cityruss

But, donuts.

Kobz27

JanetYellen wrote: »

Cutting down sugar is consistent in every single diet that I can think of.
Taking away my brown rice and barley will take an act of god.

That's how I felt it was going to be for bread for me. I manage 6 pizza restaurants so I am around pizza and bread everyday, but I don't really get any cravings for it unless I am just hungry in general.

Hornsby

No can do for me. I like my grains and sugar.

MelaniaTrump

Flour is something I stay far, far away from. I see no health benefit from it. Just empty calories.
Barley gives me a lot of fiber and fills me up with few calories. So it's still in. I think it's 25% of fiber per serving. Something for the colon to behold.

Kobz27

There's also a lot of research about how sugars and grains create an inflammatory response in the body, making the body more suseptable to sickness, diseases, and ailments. Also about how a diet can turn on switches in our DNA and turn our bodies into fat burning machines. Check out the books I mentioned before and the Joe Rogan Podcast, it will open your eyes to the Huge amount of benefits.

lucys1225

That's great! Do you listen to Vinnie Tortorich's podcast?

I've been off of sugar and grains for years and never plan on going back. I have never felt restricted and have endless energy. I was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's but was totally non-symptomatic even though my levels were way off. My endocrinologist said that she believes the reason I showed no signs was because of my diet and exercise. For me, all the benefits I get from eating this way surely outweigh the 3 minutes of possible enjoyment in having 4 bites of a piece of cake!

Kobz27

JanetYellen wrote: »

Flour is something I stay far, far away from. I see no health benefit from it. Just empty calories.
Barley gives me a lot of fiber and fills me up with few calories. So it's still in. I think it's 25% of fiber per serving. Something for the colon to behold.

I use flax and chia seeds for that ;-)

Kobz27

There Also a ton of omega 3's in chia seeds. Good for healthy brain function.

Kobz27

lucys1225 wrote: »

That's great! Do you listen to Vinnie Tortorich's podcast?

I've been off of sugar and grains for years and never plan on going back. I have never felt restricted and have endless energy. I was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's but was totally non-symptomatic even though my levels were way off. My endocrinologist said that she believes the reason I showed no signs was because of my diet and exercise. For me, all the benefits I get from eating this way surely outweigh the 3 minutes of possible enjoyment in having 4 bites of a piece of cake!

That's exactly where I heard about this in the first place. I added vinnietortorich dot com to the Main post but they must have filtered that out now that I am looking at the original post again. Must have flagged that kind of stuff as spam.

Chef_Barbell

Nope. No thanks.

auddii

Granted, I'm not a huge fruit fan, but I'd definitely miss my daily apple and my pineapple chunks if I went on a no sugar diet.

And I'm definitely not going to skip out on the wedding cake in a few weeks! I couldn't give up on treats and special occasion celebrations for the rest of my life.

Glad you found what worked for you though.

cityruss

Kobz27 wrote: »

There's also a lot of research about how sugars and grains create an inflammatory response in the body, making the body more suseptable to sickness, diseases, and ailments. Also about how a diet can turn on switches in our DNA and turn our bodies into fat burning machines. Check out the books I mentioned before and the Joe Rogan Podcast, it will open your eyes to the Huge amount of benefits.

Links to research showing that the consumption of sugars and grains within the confines of a correctly balanced calorific, macro, and micronutritional dietary intake creates an inflammatory response in the body, making the body more suseptable to sickness, diseases, and ailments, please.

Links to research showing "DNA switches" and how diet can influence DNA, influence a human being on a genetic level, or have a bearing on the human genome, please.

MelaniaTrump

This almost sounds like a Keto type diet.
I like cutting sugar and white flour, but like my beans, farro, spelt, brown rice, quinoa, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, lentils, way too much.
I don't think barley causes an inflammatory response.

Kobz27

cityruss wrote: »

Links to research showing that the consumption of sugars and grains within the confines of a correctly balanced calorific, macro, and micronutritional dietary intake creates an inflammatory response in the body, making the body more suseptable to sickness, diseases, and ailments, please.

Links to research showing "DNA switches" and how diet can influence DNA, influence a human being on a genetic level, or have a bearing on the human genome, please.

It's in the book the primal blueprint. Go read it

itsthehumidity

Joe Rogan's an intelligent comedian. He is not a credible source of information regarding diet and nutrition. Neither are you.

If the restriction of something (in your case, sugar and grains) works for you, then do it. That's your business. What's not your business is telling others that this method is the key. It's not. At best it's an indirect method of reducing calories consumed, while missing the big picture, and at worst it's a method that will lead many to binge after succumbing to cravings and end up worse than when they started.

Sugar appears to be coming back as the Restriction Du Jour, perhaps dethroning gluten after a long and prosperous reign. Sugar is in a lot of foods, and our brains need a steady stream of glucose to function. The sugar in fruits, fructose, gets converted in the liver to glucose and some other things we need. Long and complicated story made short, sugar is not the enemy and it's not something to be avoided.

The key, of course, is balance (not NSNG). Sugar shouldn't be avoided, nor should it be consumed in excess. The same goes for fat, for carbohydrates, for saturated fat, for water, for oxygen, and on and on. When you walk the path of balance, you'll see for yourself how misguided these extreme notions are, and how they don't serve you as well as they claim. You'll start to understand that you can have ice cream here and there, and Twix, and Oreos, and pizza, and all the foods people who don't know any better label as "bad" (in moderation) while steadily losing fat.

You may have been "into reading and practicing fitness and nutrition for the past 15 years" but you have much more to learn.

Edit: typo