Finally found something that works

kimny72

Yay, a Friday "mean people" post!

kendahlj

I applaud the OP. People with normal health may scoff at the idea of eliminating sugars and grains. They haven't suffered from ulcerative colitis. I have for the past 12 years. Those who don't know, it's essentially ulcers in the colon. There are a lot of problems, but the worst for me was having to go to the bathroom 10-12 times a day and having about 30 seconds to go when the feeling hits. Medications really didn't work so I just dealt with it. Missed many days from work when I had flare ups. They say there's no cure. I gave up sugar and grains and every symptom went away. I haven't had any issues since. None whatsoever. It may be restrictive but it's by far less restrictive than dealing with colitis. I feel 10 years younger and have lost 34 pounds. All this in two months of restricting my intake of sugar and grains. I won't tell anyone they should eat that way but I will never go back to eating cakes and donuts and bread.

kendahlj

fishshark wrote: »

lutzsher wrote: »

fishshark wrote: »

itsthehumidity wrote: »

Joe Rogan's an intelligent comedian. He is not a credible source of information regarding diet and nutrition. Neither are you.

If the restriction of something (in your case, sugar and grains) works for you, then do it. That's your business. What's not your business is telling others that this method is the key. It's not. At best it's an indirect method of reducing calories consumed, while missing the big picture, and at worst it's a method that will lead many to binge after succumbing to cravings and end up worse than when they started.

Sugar appears to be coming back as the Restriction Du Jour, perhaps dethroning gluten after a long and prosperous reign. Sugar is in a lot of foods, and our brains need a steady stream of glucose to function. The sugar in fruits, fructose, gets converted in the liver to glucose and some other things we need. Long and complicated story made short, sugar is not the enemy and it's not something to be avoided.

The key, of course, is balance (not NSNG). Sugar shouldn't be avoided, nor should it be consumed in excess. The same goes for fat, for carbohydrates, for saturated fat, for water, for oxygen, and on and on. When you walk the path of balance, you'll see for yourself how misguided these extreme notions are, and how they don't serve you as well as they claim. You'll start to understand that you can have ice cream here and there, and Twix, and Oreos, and pizza, and all the foods people who don't know any better label as "bad" (in moderation) while steadily losing fat.

You may have been "into reading and practicing fitness and nutrition for the past 15 years" but you have much more to learn.

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yea this pretty much sums it up...
If restricting works for you then yes! that is wonderful you found a productive way to be your own version of healthy. HOWEVER it is not the key, especially to the average healthy adult. Diabetes and other insulin issues thats another topic for another time. 30 days it quite the accomplishment to stick to a restrictive diet so you should be proud. I persoanlly would rather die then live my entire life with out the following... Crusty artisan bread like baguettes, pizza, pasta, donuts, flour to bake with, cookies, cereal, oats, candy, rice (risotto, fried rice, sticky rice) ect ect. Could i do it for a while yea anyone can do anything.... is it vital for weightless or health HELL NO.

HELL YES! I have not consumed grains for 4 years (personal choice due to GMO concerns and celiac husband), dairy for 5 years (severe allergy) & sugar has been pretty much non existent for the same period. Not only do I feel better than I have in my life but my focus and energy is greatly improved. I never feel restricted,there is still lots of food choices. I still feel that I have a large variety in my diet.
You can't paint everyone with the same brush, this IS the key for some. I don't see where anyone is making the claim this IS the key for everyone.
Do what works for you & be proud of everything you accomplish, you deserve congratulations for your efforts!

il stick to my quote that restrictive diets ARE NOT vital to health and wellness. that in no is saying that it doesnt work... again... i said it is not vital- adjictive meaning absolutely necessary or important; essential. for a third time for fun i said it is not vital for health and wellness.

Do you think refined sugar is good for your health and wellness?

SophieSmall95

itsthehumidity wrote: »

Joe Rogan's an intelligent comedian. He is not a credible source of information regarding diet and nutrition. Neither are you.

If the restriction of something (in your case, sugar and grains) works for you, then do it. That's your business. What's not your business is telling others that this method is the key. It's not. At best it's an indirect method of reducing calories consumed, while missing the big picture, and at worst it's a method that will lead many to binge after succumbing to cravings and end up worse than when they started.

Sugar appears to be coming back as the Restriction Du Jour, perhaps dethroning gluten after a long and prosperous reign. Sugar is in a lot of foods, and our brains need a steady stream of glucose to function. The sugar in fruits, fructose, gets converted in the liver to glucose and some other things we need. Long and complicated story made short, sugar is not the enemy and it's not something to be avoided.

The key, of course, is balance (not NSNG). Sugar shouldn't be avoided, nor should it be consumed in excess. The same goes for fat, for carbohydrates, for saturated fat, for water, for oxygen, and on and on. When you walk the path of balance, you'll see for yourself how misguided these extreme notions are, and how they don't serve you as well as they claim. You'll start to understand that you can have ice cream here and there, and Twix, and Oreos, and pizza, and all the foods people who don't know any better label as "bad" (in moderation) while steadily losing fat.

You may have been "into reading and practicing fitness and nutrition for the past 15 years" but you have much more to learn.

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This.

There is so much pseudoscience in this thread.

As someone soon to be certified as a Biomedical scientist reading this nonsense really makes me weep. haha.

SophieSmall95

kendahlj wrote: »

I applaud the OP. People with normal health may scoff at the idea of eliminating sugars and grains. They haven't suffered from ulcerative colitis. I have for the past 12 years. Those who don't know, it's essentially ulcers in the colon. There are a lot of problems, but the worst for me was having to go to the bathroom 10-12 times a day and having about 30 seconds to go when the feeling hits. Medications really didn't work so I just dealt with it. Missed many days from work when I had flare ups. They say there's no cure. I gave up sugar and grains and every symptom went away. I haven't had any issues since. None whatsoever. It may be restrictive but it's by far less restrictive than dealing with colitis. I feel 10 years younger and have lost 34 pounds. All this in two months of restricting my intake of sugar and grains. I won't tell anyone they should eat that way but I will never go back to eating cakes and donuts and bread.

I don't think people arguing against there being no need to restrict a large number of foods in order to lose weight are talking at all about restricting because of a health condition.

Those are clearly 2 very different things. one is necessary (such as removing foods you are allergic to, intolerant to or that aggravates a medical condition) and one is not (removing an entire food group to lose weight).

Glad to hear you've found something to ease your colitis, it's a horrid condition.

arditarose

Oh this thread. What is going on here? I'm not gonna lie...I feel and look better on minimal sugar and grains. It's not in my head. But I do understand that weight loss,maintenance, and gain comes down to CICO.