Apetamin for weight gain
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ummm it is a public forum, so anyone can come in here and read it and think that apeatamin and waist trainers are a great way to gain weight and then slim off your waist....which is 100% the wrong way to do it...so yea, I am going to correct the record for lurkers and such...
Exactly a public forum. In which you don't have to read anything you don't like. It's not like they are telling people to use the products, they are just sharing what is working for them.
which also means I have the right to come in here and correct misinformation and woo woo ...
The information is not wrong if it works for them. As they are not saying the product is the cause they are just using it.
If the expectation that a waister trainer would reduce or modify fat tissue and prevent growth, then it would be wrong. If they like to wear it, thats a different story. Like i mentioned before, i would be a little worried about not utilizing your back muscles making them weak. That and having some impact on your internals.
Arguing if something works or doesn't for someone without any proof that is does or does not is childish and gives nothing to this post.
Replying by add nothing to this discussion no matter if you disagree is against the rules (aka trolling) as no one will win. So as a moderator please start enforcing the rules!
I would recommend you read and understand the rules before making such assertions. Additionally, you can feel free to explain to us "unknowledgeable" members how a piece of clothing will affect adipose fatty tissue.
If you think science is childish, that is your opinion but if someone has questions or needs an understanding how something works, then we can inform them. Maybe you shoulf also considering read the first several pages and look at the information i have provided. Not only in terms of increasing intake but decreasing the development of new fatty tissue.
You want to promise false hopes and think its supportive, thats fine as you have the right to that opinion. But that is giving someone false hope. Clothing will not prevent fat growth and supercede genetic diposition. It is not only wrong but provides false hopes to members who are trying to achieve goals.
1.This is not a debate thread, or the debate section.
2. I have read the rules and will start reporting if needs be.
3.This was a question about others using the product and their experiences. The thread topic is about Apetamin, because someone talked about a belt doesn't mean the thread gets derailed to talk about if that works or not.
By all means, feel free to report anything that you see as a violation. Another moderator will evaluate it. I dont mod the gaining weight section as i am in almost every thread helping people on their journey. I came in here to correct some wrong information and provide the math behind the OPs goals of 5 lbs per week. I also provided a link to high calorie foods to make it easier for the OP to hit her 3000 a day calorie goal.
I'm sorry but Apetamin is definitely WORKING for me. This isnot the first , second or third time I've tried to gain weight. And NO I have not always looked for a short cut to gain weight. You never even thought to ask anything it just really seemed like you assumed to know what I have been doing prior. In all honesty I donot wish to continue going back n forth with this. WE AGREE TO DISAGREE. There is wayyyyy too much craziness going on in the world. We can do better than this by accepting the fact that what works for some may not work for others and also may not be the way you choose to go about it. It's okay... I'm good with that. You guys have a great night. TOMORROW WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE THE DEVIL IS A LIAR! What started off so peacefully can only become negative if we allow it. It's not worth it.
You should read my post again. I never said it wasnt going to work for you. I said it only worked for 25% of people. I dont know why you think i am being negative. I only corrected some misinformation (like it slows the metabolism) and gave you actual information on what would be needed to hit 5 lbs a week.
But if you think setting realistic expextations of results because i see this day in and out and see those same people who are taking Apetamin come back and complain about how they are gaining a ton of stomach fat as negative, then i am sorry.
End of story... This will not spill over into another day. What else is going on? Do you have something else to speak about besides what we don't agree on? How is the weather where u are? It's hot here.3 -
I don't know what happened to me but I can no longer so a sit-up . Lol .... It just seems so difficult. And please don't say push ups because I'm no good at that. Yikes... *embarrassed* Lls0
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Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!15 -
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Can't work out what your goal is apart from to get fat TBH
Where's your progressive resistance?
All in all this thread has been a bizarre read10 -
^^^This. And you've lost your ability to sit up? I hope you have started working out, at least some sort of strength training. You really need to strengthen your core, especially since wearing a waist trainer will allow it to weaken.5
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Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.0
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KetoneKaren wrote: »Problem is that many posters have no intention of being supportive or constructive, but prefer to be snarky, flippant and know-it-all. I see it every day on MFP threads, and it is disheartening. I don't see the moderators calling people on their negative destructive comments nearly as often as I see posts such as the one above.
I am sorry if you can't handle the truth ...but the truth is you don't need waist trainers and you don't need apeatamin ....that is not being snarky, flippant, etc, that is being honest and truthful.
No actually that's just your opinion... You cannot speak for everyone. Some people may need what you don't ; however it doesn't make you right. Seems like you are contradicting yourself. Why are you so upset that everything you say ppl don't agree with. It's life... Do things your way and let others do it theirs. No need for this to be a back n forth thing. Move on from this already.... Sheesh
No, that is scientific fact and not opinion...4 -
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VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.1 -
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.4 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »^^^This. And you've lost your ability to sit up? I hope you have started working out, at least some sort of strength training. You really need to strengthen your core, especially since wearing a waist trainer will allow it to weaken.
Yup I've definitely started to strength train. I always worked out pretty much every other day. I use weights and the ball. I just know now that I'm gaining weight I have to push harder with my workouts. Lol lol okay so I can do a sit up but honestly I wasn't doing them nearly as much as before because I've alway been pretty slim and fit. I HATE sit-ups .... However now gaining I'm noticing weight going to my breast, stomach , butt and thighs. I'm actually ok with it going wherever it goes , but I know that I'm gonna have to work out more often.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!
Lls.... I sure will and I'll be posting pics of my progress minus the big belly. Lls Thanks for the support!!! #motivation0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!
Lls.... I sure will and I'll be posting pics of my progress minus the big belly. Lls Thanks for the support!!! #motivation
You're already complaining of gaining in your tummy, doing a few situps and wearing some elastic while you workout isn't going to change that. I think you need to think about what your desired aesthetic is and then find out how to achieve because it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing other than just trying to eat more.
I do some form of strength training 5 times a week but I still have a belly because body fat and genetics. I can't dictate whether it flattens or not. Same with my big bum and thighs, they're genetic, I can't squat and lunge and run them away (I do all of those and have for well over a year, everything still there!).4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!
Lls.... I sure will and I'll be posting pics of my progress minus the big belly. Lls Thanks for the support!!! #motivation
You're already complaining of gaining in your tummy, doing a few situps and wearing some elastic while you workout isn't going to change that. I think you need to think about what your desired aesthetic is and then find out how to achieve because it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing other than just trying to eat more.
I do some form of strength training 5 times a week but I still have a belly because body fat and genetics. I can't dictate whether it flattens or not. Same with my big bum and thighs, they're genetic, I can't squat and lunge and run them away (I do all of those and have for well over a year, everything still there!).
Hmmm... U do all that without any change wow!
When I use to work out consistently I definitely saw changes so like u said genetics. Stay tuned... : )
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VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!
Lls.... I sure will and I'll be posting pics of my progress minus the big belly. Lls Thanks for the support!!! #motivation
You're already complaining of gaining in your tummy, doing a few situps and wearing some elastic while you workout isn't going to change that. I think you need to think about what your desired aesthetic is and then find out how to achieve because it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing other than just trying to eat more.
I do some form of strength training 5 times a week but I still have a belly because body fat and genetics. I can't dictate whether it flattens or not. Same with my big bum and thighs, they're genetic, I can't squat and lunge and run them away (I do all of those and have for well over a year, everything still there!).
Maybe you should get a personal trainer or join a gym so that someone can help u professionally.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol
If only you could pass some on to me.. Lol I'm 34 and I have always been on the small side. I gained weight off n on but maintaining it was extremely hard because my appetite wouldn't be there like it should.
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VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your plan is working wonderfully for you. Best of luck.
ETA: I think it's great that you want a nice big round belly, keep doing what you're doing and you'll be there in no time at all!
Lls.... I sure will and I'll be posting pics of my progress minus the big belly. Lls Thanks for the support!!! #motivation
You're already complaining of gaining in your tummy, doing a few situps and wearing some elastic while you workout isn't going to change that. I think you need to think about what your desired aesthetic is and then find out how to achieve because it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing other than just trying to eat more.
I do some form of strength training 5 times a week but I still have a belly because body fat and genetics. I can't dictate whether it flattens or not. Same with my big bum and thighs, they're genetic, I can't squat and lunge and run them away (I do all of those and have for well over a year, everything still there!).
Maybe you should get a personal trainer or join a gym so that someone can help u professionally.
Not no change. I've lost 47lbs so far but where my fat is stored is the exact same now as it was when there was more of it because I don't get to choose where I lose it. No professional help needed because I understand exactly how it works.8 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol
If only you could pass some on to me.. Lol I'm 34 and I have always been on the small side. I gained weight off n on but maintaining it was extremely hard because my appetite wouldn't be there like it should.
To be honest, you don't look close to underweight, that's probably where the confusion is coming from. Why exactly you want to gain weight and what aesthetic you're going for because at the moment all you're going to achieve is fat.8 -
KetoneKaren wrote: »KetoneKaren wrote: »Problem is that many posters have no intention of being supportive or constructive, but prefer to be snarky, flippant and know-it-all. I see it every day on MFP threads, and it is disheartening. I don't see the moderators calling people on their negative destructive comments nearly as often as I see posts such as the one above.
I am sorry if you can't handle the truth ...but the truth is you don't need waist trainers and you don't need apeatamin ....that is not being snarky, flippant, etc, that is being honest and truthful.
I responded to this but it seems to have disappeared.
@ndj1979 Did I say that I need waist trainers or Apetamin?
I rest my case.
And it has nothing to do with being able to handle the truth.
i was referring to the OP of this thread and never mentioned your name specifically, so not sure how you could read it that way...3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol
If only you could pass some on to me.. Lol I'm 34 and I have always been on the small side. I gained weight off n on but maintaining it was extremely hard because my appetite wouldn't be there like it should.
To be honest, you don't look close to underweight, that's probably where the confusion is coming from. Why exactly you want to gain weight and what aesthetic you're going for because at the moment all you're going to achieve is fat.
I never said I was underweight ... I said for my own personal liking I'd like to gain a few pounds because for me I am too thin. I am gaining weight as I wanted so now that I'm feeling in I'm more comfortable with my body.
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VintageFeline wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol
If only you could pass some on to me.. Lol I'm 34 and I have always been on the small side. I gained weight off n on but maintaining it was extremely hard because my appetite wouldn't be there like it should.
To be honest, you don't look close to underweight, that's probably where the confusion is coming from. Why exactly you want to gain weight and what aesthetic you're going for because at the moment all you're going to achieve is fat.
Okay.... And obviously I'm going to gain some fat.. Lol As far as what I'll achieve. You just stay tuned honey!!! I'd rather show u better than tell you. Have a blessed day!
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VintageFeline wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
the thing is it IS hard work to get a defined body. its not something thats easy to do. it also has a lot to do with genetics as well.VintageFeline wrote: »Yeah, I'm not sure what the end goal is here? Is it just to be fat? Because that's easy, I did that without even trying! Achieving an aesthetic is a lot harder, whether up or down the scale, I have to do a lot more than just eat less to get the body I want, same works the other way.
Well that's define not true for everyone... It's not easy for lots of people to gain weight. I guess you were fortunate.
Exactly ... Which is why some of us have a hard time gaining and some don't.
I only wish I had a hard time gaining weight lol. after I turned 30 is when I started becoming overweight. been thin all my life until that point in time. dont know what happened lol
If only you could pass some on to me.. Lol I'm 34 and I have always been on the small side. I gained weight off n on but maintaining it was extremely hard because my appetite wouldn't be there like it should.
To be honest, you don't look close to underweight, that's probably where the confusion is coming from. Why exactly you want to gain weight and what aesthetic you're going for because at the moment all you're going to achieve is fat.
Okay.... And obviously I'm going to gain some fat.. Lol As far as what I'll achieve. You just stay tuned honey!!! I'd rather show u better than tell you. Have a blessed day!
And why do you care so much??? Aren't you trying to lose weight or tone?? Whatever.... This is about gaining. Goodbye!!!0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »The thing is when you gain weight you gain fat (how much,and how fast has to do with genetics). you cant gain it where you want. it goes on where ever it wants just like losing weight, it comes off where it wants. you cant spot reduce.so you cant spot gain either.so if you are seeing it in your belly now it means it may take longer to gain in other areas.trust me I was thin and when I gained weight it was all from my waist down,then I lost weight and yeah the places I gained it first are the last places it wants to come off.
This is true and that's why it's best to workout along the way. I've said this before I'm not new to this weight gain journey I have achieved it before but I did it maintain it because of my lack of eating right and exercising so I quickly lost the weight. The only thing new is the vitamin syrup Apetamin which is helping me have the appetite to eat more. And it actually works for me and some others. If you have never heard of it then you may not understand it much. YouTube has tons of personal reviews with women that struggled to gain weight. Real results ... Etc.
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KetoneKaren wrote: »KetoneKaren wrote: »Problem is that many posters have no intention of being supportive or constructive, but prefer to be snarky, flippant and know-it-all. I see it every day on MFP threads, and it is disheartening. I don't see the moderators calling people on their negative destructive comments nearly as often as I see posts such as the one above.
I am sorry if you can't handle the truth ...but the truth is you don't need waist trainers and you don't need apeatamin ....that is not being snarky, flippant, etc, that is being honest and truthful.
I responded to this but it seems to have disappeared.
@ndj1979 Did I say that I need waist trainers or Apetamin?
I rest my case.
And it has nothing to do with being able to handle the truth.
i was referring to the OP of this thread and never mentioned your name specifically, so not sure how you could read it that way...
Your response was to my post and the word "you" was used three times. There was no mention of the OP in your post. Perhaps I misinterpreted it, and if so, I apologize. It would be a good idea to be thoughtfully specific in your future posts so misinterpretations are less likely to occur. Which was part of the point I was trying to make. People are frequently careless and thoughtless in what they post. Yours was a good example.
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KetoneKaren wrote: »KetoneKaren wrote: »KetoneKaren wrote: »Problem is that many posters have no intention of being supportive or constructive, but prefer to be snarky, flippant and know-it-all. I see it every day on MFP threads, and it is disheartening. I don't see the moderators calling people on their negative destructive comments nearly as often as I see posts such as the one above.
I am sorry if you can't handle the truth ...but the truth is you don't need waist trainers and you don't need apeatamin ....that is not being snarky, flippant, etc, that is being honest and truthful.
I responded to this but it seems to have disappeared.
@ndj1979 Did I say that I need waist trainers or Apetamin?
I rest my case.
And it has nothing to do with being able to handle the truth.
i was referring to the OP of this thread and never mentioned your name specifically, so not sure how you could read it that way...
Your response was to my post and the word "you" was used three times. There was no mention of the OP in your post. Perhaps I misinterpreted it, and if so, I apologize. It would be a good idea to be thoughtfully specific in your future posts so misinterpretations are less likely to occur. Which was part of the point I was trying to make. People are frequently careless and thoughtless in what they post. Yours was a good example.
you said that I was being flippant, which I was not, I was being truthful that "you" do not need waist trainers or apetamine...
Just because you don't like the fact that I am disputing OP's claims does not mean that I was being flippant or rude, I was being factual.
The you that I used was not directed at you specifically but was a metaphor for the thread as a whole in that you, me, everyone do not need waist trainer and apetamine as it is a bunch of woo woo ..
Again, not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending that.5 -
@ndj1979 It's interesting that you took my comments about flippant posters personally, as it was not directed at you when I posted it (go back and look if you doubt me). The fact that you thought I was saying it about you...is something you will have to figure out for yourself. Because it was a general observation, which is apparent if you re-read the thread. You are the one who quoted my post and responded to it, though it was not addressed to you. Not unthinkable that I might interpret it in the way that I did. I don't care if you dispute OP's claims. I do not believe in Apetamin or waist trainers. If the OP is attaining her weight gain goal with Apetamin, it is not a harmful supplement. Waist trainers are more concerning. I just believe that comments can be made in a constructive way that is helpful and accurate, and not disparaging or open to interpretation. You are not very careful about how you word things...still...and I did not say YOU were flippant...see how easy it is to be misinterpreted? I am suggesting we all try to be more responsible. Also this is the way you spell Apetamin: Apetamin. Not apetamine or apeatamin.
Edited to add that commenting on whether the OP looks thin or fat or needs to gain weight borders on, and may be violating the rules of the forum. I don't see you or anyone else saying a word about that, which is interesting. Even the moderator who posted earlier hasn't said anything about those posts.6
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