July (2016) Running Challenge
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@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
By the way, I mark off my hills on Strava as segments so I can see my progress and how many times I've done the hill and if my time is improving getting up the hill
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
@kristinegift hopefully their will be a nice breeze off the ocean on Saturday. Have you been to Belmar? Big party town, my friends and I used to rent a house there on the beach.
@stoshew71 make sure you turn in your FF card, the card they handed you at the race is only good for 30 days (it is probably for $20, it says in the fine print) I think they are $25 for 1st $20 1st in AG, $15 2nd in AG and $10 3rd in AG. After you turn it in for the gift card those are good for I think 90 days.
Listen to me Linda, they didn't give me a FF card. LOL They said they actually ran out but go down to FF and they can look it up. So I get $20 off and I have 30 days to claim the card, but 90 days to use it. That helps. I will go tonight and claim it, have a look around and see if anything I want. I was thinking of getting some nice compression running shorts. All the running clearance warehouses I looked up online either didn't have my size for what I wanted or didn't seem worth the money. If FF has some special combined with the $20 off, then bingo. I really don't need shoes right now. LOL Just trying to think of what else to get.
As far as beaches, you are talking my old neck of the woods. We used to go to Bar-A in Belmar all the time after work on Fridays in the summer. Then sometimes D'Jais afterwards. The main marketing guy at D'Jais graduated with me in HS. So I knew him pretty well.
Sleeze Side, I mean Seaside Heights was the big party town. AKA where they filmed MTV's Jersey Shore. One of our buddies had a house in Ortley and we would always crashed there if we couldn't make it out of SSH. It was just a short walk down the road from all the bars.
I met Jenn in SSH. You also have Point Pleasant which is between the 2 and is a lot more family friendly. Manasquan was also a happening place. My brother had a house with a bunch of his Rutgers friends in Manasquan one summer.
@stoshew71 last weekend they were having buy one get 50% off on clothing, I didn't stroll over to the men's side of the store so I don't know what they had. Skip brought those wild red/white/blue shorts she wore in the Mile and some other pair of shorts. I screwed up by one day and missed out using our Cotton Row bib money. You needed to use it by the 30th and we were there on the 1st. Dick's was having a sale too while we were there.
I think I've pretty much drunk/drank/got drunk from one end of the Jersey Shore to the other.
Way too many nights at the Headliner in Neptune ha ha!!! You know you are some place too much when the owner invites you to his wedding... and bachelor party!
Seaside tried to fix his reputation, it was definitely a family town when I was a kid, but then doing things like Jersey Shore didn't help it's image at all. Skip and I would go to Ortley or Island Beach State Park.
Ah I miss home. We are going back in September for a wedding. I can't wait, wish it was in the summer because Skip will be back to school so we can only go a couple of days.
OMG, the Headliner. LOL It may be possible we ran into each other at the Headliner at one point. LOL That was also another favorite place of ours. Headliner and Red Heads were 2 popular places we would go to in the off season (when all the BENYs weren't around to fill up SSH, Belmar, PP, ect).
Then there is Kelly's on St Patty's Day. And you can't forget the Belmar St. Patty's Day parade which was always a good time.1 -
greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.0 -
Thanks everyone for the feedback, it's helped a lot! 0
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greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Unless you are going to be training for a steep mtn 5k. Then you get to enjoy 15% (dies)
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Follow up question o hills. My training cycle is 10 weeks, What;s a good number of hill sessions to put into my cycle. I'm "hoping" to be running 4-5 days a week for training again.0
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greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Unless you are going to be training for a steep mtn 5k. Then you get to enjoy 15% (dies)
But then you are no longer doing "hill repeats", you are now doing elevation training.
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greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Thanks! The other hill is only 1/10th mile and averages to 4% but part of it is steeper than that. I run this hill several times a week on a regular route and I used to mentally get so worked up about it :-p
A very "popular" (hated) hill around here that is part of HM route is .2 mile 8% incline and I'm hoping after doing hill repeats on lesser hills that I can mentally tackle the bigger hill better. Like if I can go up a lower incline 5 times then surely I can get up that one hill ONCE without feeling like I'm dying.0 -
greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Unless you are going to be training for a steep mtn 5k. Then you get to enjoy 15% (dies)
But then you are no longer doing "hill repeats", you are now doing elevation training.
I see what you mean. I just use different terms. And elevation training for me means running at high altitude. 10k+0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »Thanks all for the advice. I'll probably figure out how long it takes me to run up/down this one hill near me and program it into the interval timer on my Garmin
I decide how long my interval is going to be and set my Garmin for time. For example, I might run fast up the hill for one minute, jog back down and recovery jog around for a total of two minutes. Do this 10 times. I set my intervals for 1 min interval, 2 min rest X 10. It helps that I have a lot of long hills in my neighborhood so I never reach the top of the one I am training on.0 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »
OMG, the Headliner. LOL It may be possible we ran into each other at the Headliner at one point. LOL That was also another favorite place of ours. Headliner and Red Heads were 2 popular places we would go to in the off season (when all the BENYs weren't around to fill up SSH, Belmar, PP, ect).
Then there is Kelly's on St Patty's Day. And you can't forget the Belmar St. Patty's Day parade which was always a good time.
@stoshew71 we need to remember I'm a wee bit older than you ha ha!!! You were probably still in the 6th grade.0 -
greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Unless you are going to be training for a steep mtn 5k. Then you get to enjoy 15% (dies)
But then you are no longer doing "hill repeats", you are now doing elevation training.
I see what you mean. I just use different terms. And elevation training for me means running at high altitude. 10k+
As far as terms go, you are probably more correct on the use of the term "elevation training". I probably should say "hill training" to refer to generic training to get used to extreme hills and such. To do what you are talking about like the steep mtn 5K, I will just go over to one of the many mountains we have in the Huntsville area (oh the joys of living in the foothills of the Appalachians) and get in about 1200 feet of elevation gain on a medium to long run where there are some steep climbs.
Hills around here are quite common. Unless you run in Research Park or the jogging path on Redstone, most any route you create around here will include some 'hills".
Now if you go to Colorado and you are way up in the mountains to the point where oxygen levels & air pressure are way different, then yes, that would be considered "elevation training". Unfortunetely, I don't have that luxery. We have some really good mountains to train on, but not that good. LOL
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Hmmm....most of the hills around here are between 3% and 7%. I had not heard about that 3% limitation before. The steep ones are a real *kitten*, particularly going down.0
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greenolivetree wrote: »@MNLittleFinn The most I've done is 5 hill repeats so far and I can't imagine losing track of each brutal one. LOL Here's another question...... Should I keep doing my 1/3 mile 2% incline hill and add more reps....or should I move to a 1/3 mile 3% incline hill and do 5 there???? I can't decide. I'm also considering a much shorter but steeper hill for hill sprints and try to work up to 10-12. I'm really finding that stuff like this makes running more interesting and passes the miles quicker vs. just running a big loop or something.
Rule of thumb is that you don't want to go too steep that you mess up your form. 3% incline I think is the ideal and shouldn't go steeper than that.
Unless you are going to be training for a steep mtn 5k. Then you get to enjoy 15% (dies)
But then you are no longer doing "hill repeats", you are now doing elevation training.
I see what you mean. I just use different terms. And elevation training for me means running at high altitude. 10k+
As far as terms go, you are probably more correct on the use of the term "elevation training". I probably should say "hill training" to refer to generic training to get used to extreme hills and such. To do what you are talking about like the steep mtn 5K, I will just go over to one of the many mountains we have in the Huntsville area (oh the joys of living in the foothills of the Appalachians) and get in about 1200 feet of elevation gain on a medium to long run where there are some steep climbs.
Hills around here are quite common. Unless you run in Research Park or the jogging path on Redstone, most any route you create around here will include some 'hills".
Now if you go to Colorado and you are way up in the mountains to the point where oxygen levels & air pressure are way different, then yes, that would be considered "elevation training". Unfortunetely, I don't have that luxery. We have some really good mountains to train on, but not that good. LOL
Vegas is lucky enough to have a 12,000ft mtn only 30mi away. Brutal 18miler with 5k+ vert. Colorado is so amazing. I love running the there.
For some races with large vertical gains, I will do mile hill repeats. Grades 5-20%. When I get to 15%+, it's more speed hiking than running though. I'm not elite so I can't run that lol.1 -
Random cool thing. The full that my September HM goes along with had 3 folks BQ last year. Thought that was pretty cool for a marathon out in the sticks1
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
OMG, the Headliner. LOL It may be possible we ran into each other at the Headliner at one point. LOL That was also another favorite place of ours. Headliner and Red Heads were 2 popular places we would go to in the off season (when all the BENYs weren't around to fill up SSH, Belmar, PP, ect).
Then there is Kelly's on St Patty's Day. And you can't forget the Belmar St. Patty's Day parade which was always a good time.
@stoshew71 we need to remember I'm a wee bit older than you ha ha!!! You were probably still in the 6th grade.
ok, so you are talking that long ago. LOL Still, would have been funny. We pretty much did the same scene.
I wonder where you went up north? I had Poor Billy's in Woodbridge, Tequila Joe's in Belleville/Newark. There were a few dive joints in Rahway & Elizabeth where all the people in my HS hung out a lot at like The Waiting Room and Butch Kohl's.0 -
WhatMeRunning wrote: »Hmmm....most of the hills around here are between 3% and 7%. I had not heard about that 3% limitation before. The steep ones are a real *kitten*, particularly going down.
The 3% grade I quote came from one of our local elite guys on our We Run Huntsville site. And I am going by memory. So nothing I can quote. But I did find this website. They call them "hill sprints". They suggest 6-8% grade.
https://runnersconnect.net/running-training-articles/sprint-training-program-for-novice-runners/0 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »
OMG, the Headliner. LOL It may be possible we ran into each other at the Headliner at one point. LOL That was also another favorite place of ours. Headliner and Red Heads were 2 popular places we would go to in the off season (when all the BENYs weren't around to fill up SSH, Belmar, PP, ect).
Then there is Kelly's on St Patty's Day. And you can't forget the Belmar St. Patty's Day parade which was always a good time.
@stoshew71 we need to remember I'm a wee bit older than you ha ha!!! You were probably still in the 6th grade.
ok, so you are talking that long ago. LOL Still, would have been funny. We pretty much did the same scene.
I wonder where you went up north? I had Poor Billy's in Woodbridge, Tequila Joe's in Belleville/Newark. There were a few dive joints in Rahway & Elizabeth where all the people in my HS hung out a lot at like The Waiting Room and Butch Kohl's.
ha ha yep, I graduated high school in 1979. The Final Exam, Mother's, the Lighthouse, Governor's, Smiles (in my hometown), the Rock Quarry. I was born in Elizabeth but once we moved I didn't go over that way much again. OMG I'm reliving my youth...well at least what I can remember of it. Some places I can picture the building but can't remember the name.1 -
I'm late but want to join. I'm going to be a newbie and start with only 30miles. It will still be a lot for me since I'm not a runner at all. Trying to start Couch to 5k.10
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July
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3Jul - 6k
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Went out with a running club to give it a go. The beginners coach was lovely, took it really slow, even slower than I would normally do and I did 1k more than a normal weekday run. There were 2 other girls quite a bit younger than me who only started last week, one was a similar level to me or maybe a bit fitter, the other struggled a bit towards the end so I hung back with her as I wouldn't have liked to have been left behind. Both girls seemed really nice too. Tuesday is speedwork day - something I have not tried since I was a treadmill person and it didn't go well. Will give it a go as I am sure it will be ok.....I plan to do my weekend runs myself but might add on a 1km to see how it goes as my plan was to start increasing totals anyway.
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