Women don't bulk easily - myth?!
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If you're eating in a deficit and think you look bulky from lifting, your body fat percentage is just still too high for your tastes. Continue what you're doing.
I literally DID bulk. I ate enough food to gain weight while lifting, on purpose. Even then, I wasn't bulky. But definitely bulkier...because fat, not muscles. 14 pounds gained and realistically only about 3 will come from muscle. I was crossing my fingers for 4.4 -
I believe you when you say your back and shoulder look bigger. I see no reason why you couldn't be achieving some newbie gains. And you may not have lost any fat off your back and shoulders yet (my weight comes off my stomach first).
I love the final product of well defined muscle and low body fat % on a woman, but sometimes the mix of well developed muscle but a higher body fat % on a woman is less attractive to my eyes than a woman with the same bf% and less muscle. If your aesthetic matches mine, you have the choice of continuing to lift with the same vigour and trust that a decreased body fat % will reveal the beauty in your more muscular body or, reduce or change up your strength training plan (emphasizing quads and glutes perhaps) until your bf% is lower.1 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »One idea - Many women who fear gaining too much size in their upper body train it less frequently. (Debatable if this is actually necessary, but if it makes a person feel better, to each their own.)
Women don't put on a ton of mass without trying. Especially not in a deficit. To put on serious size you would need to be in a surplus, and even then it will be a slow process. Women who want to gain serious muscle often spend years and years lifting and eating purposefully for this goal. It's never an accident. (Sometimes they use drugs.)
There are many women at my gym who train hard but usually aren't actively trying to put on a lot of muscle. They don't look bulky or manly or gross. They have sleek/shapely arms and legs. They look fit. And that's after years of training.
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DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......3 -
Can you post some pics of what it is you see in your arms being really bigger?2
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DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.4 -
OP, these were my end results from lifting in a deficit. Do not be afraid.
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I'm really enjoying strength training and I'm only planning a deficit for a little while longer (my bf is approx 20 and I'd like it to be 18) I just don't want to get bigger!!
I think you should reassess you goals just a little. As a female, you are going to look fairly cut at less than 20% body fat, even if you weren't strength training. (although that low of BFP would be extremely difficult to reach without it.) Reading between the lines, what I'm getting is that your concern is you don't want your muscles sticking out in ways that you consider un-feminine. With the level of definition inherent in your body fat goal, plus strength training, your muscles are going to stand out. If you don't want that, you need to stay between 20% and 25% body fat. In that range, with ongoing strength training, you will definitely not be "skinny fat."
But at that point you also need to ditch the scale. Body fat percentage is the real measure to assess your health. Congratulations! You are already at a fitness level many would kill to achieve.
Just as a comparison for perspective, as a 46 year old male, my body fat goal is 15%, and I expect definition from it, just not body-builder level. If I can't quite achieve that, 18% would be quite acceptable to me. At my age, anything under 20% is considered healthy for a -guy-. Women's ranges are generally 5% to 10% higher than men's.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......
Muscles are sexy as all hell...and very feminine...7 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
Why do you think that is? Being more self-conscious now? I think I might be too, but it's because I'm closer to a goal and want it badly.0 -
arditarose wrote: »OP, these were my end results from lifting in a deficit. Do not be afraid.
Awesome Arditarose1 -
arditarose wrote: »OP, these were my end results from lifting in a deficit. Do not be afraid.
You look great!0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......
Muscles are sexy as all hell...and very feminine...
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TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
My first suggestion would be to not try to improve your self image by tearing down the self image of others. Women who want or have more muscle are not less feminine.
My second would be to talk to someone who has experience with body image issues to help you with your issues.4 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......
Muscles are sexy as all hell...and very feminine...
Your reactions make it very hard to have empathy for your situation.
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arditarose wrote: »OP, these were my end results from lifting in a deficit. Do not be afraid.
You look great!
Thank you! You can see in my profile pic I'm bigger now. Maybe "bulkier" in the minds of some women...but I PURPOSELY trained for that. I ate a lot. I lifted heavy. I gained fat and muscle. I didn't get bigger in a deficit. Only smaller.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......
Muscles are sexy as all hell...and very feminine...
look at arditarose again...muscles...sexy...feminine...5 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
My first suggestion would be to not try to improve your self image by tearing down the self image of others. Women who want or have more muscle are not less feminine.
My second would be to talk to someone who has experience with body image issues to help you with your issues.
I don't really have anyone to talk to, no one in my social circle works out. My oh freaked out when I brought a tub of protein powder home saying I'd look like Arnie soon (ridiculous I know) I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......
Muscles are sexy as all hell...and very feminine...
Your reactions make it very hard to have empathy for your situation.
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BarbellzNBrotein wrote: »Sorry but that's a bit ridiculous, how can I lose 10lbs and be fatter than when I started?
Haha. It could very well be muscle. I would note that muscle is a by product of strength. So if your lifts have increased, then that my friend is muscle. Great job! And I hope you're happy about it, couldn't tell from the title.
While recomp is possible, 10lbs of muscle in a short time isn't likely.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
My first suggestion would be to not try to improve your self image by tearing down the self image of others. Women who want or have more muscle are not less feminine.
My second would be to talk to someone who has experience with body image issues to help you with your issues.
I don't really have anyone to talk to, no one in my social circle works out. My oh freaked out when I brought a tub of protein powder home saying I'd look like Arnie soon (ridiculous I know) I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
I don't think you were trying to bring anyone else down. It's hard to sort out these things in your own head, when you have no one else to talk to about it. That's why I'm so happy to have a network of friends on here, no one else cares about my PRs, macros, or mini-freakouts about the scale.
You'll be happy with your weight when you are happy with you BODY. And it's ok to change your goals body composition wise. When you stop seeing the scale drop, it's not the end all be all. You start focusing on performance goals. I don't see the scale drop anymore but I'm trying to squat 225 this year...you focus on performance goals and you know what? Body composition follows.3 -
arditarose wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
My first suggestion would be to not try to improve your self image by tearing down the self image of others. Women who want or have more muscle are not less feminine.
My second would be to talk to someone who has experience with body image issues to help you with your issues.
I don't really have anyone to talk to, no one in my social circle works out. My oh freaked out when I brought a tub of protein powder home saying I'd look like Arnie soon (ridiculous I know) I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
I don't think you were trying to bring anyone else down. It's hard to sort out these things in your own head, when you have no one else to talk to about it. That's why I'm so happy to have a network of friends on here, no one else cares about my PRs, macros, or mini-freakouts about the scale.
You'll be happy with your weight when you are happy with you BODY. And it's ok to change your goals body composition wise. When you stop seeing the scale drop, it's not the end all be all. You start focusing on performance goals. I don't see the scale drop anymore but I'm trying to squat 225 this year...you focus on performance goals and you know what? Body composition follows.
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arditarose wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
But you aren't going to stop looking feminine even if you put on a little muscle.......DvlDwnInGA wrote: »If you keep eating in a deficit you don't need to worry about getting bigger. Trust the process. The look you are after is going to require you to continue lifting weights. Building muscle, building a base of muscle, and having a muscular body is not easy to achieve. If it were easy, everyone who started training in the gym for 6 months would have it. It just not that easy to get and will take much longer than you think.
By lifting weights you will ward off that skinny fat look. Keep doing what you are doing.
You'd look feminine even if you did magically gain a lot of muscle accidentally.
My first suggestion would be to not try to improve your self image by tearing down the self image of others. Women who want or have more muscle are not less feminine.
My second would be to talk to someone who has experience with body image issues to help you with your issues.
I don't really have anyone to talk to, no one in my social circle works out. My oh freaked out when I brought a tub of protein powder home saying I'd look like Arnie soon (ridiculous I know) I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
I don't think you were trying to bring anyone else down. It's hard to sort out these things in your own head, when you have no one else to talk to about it. That's why I'm so happy to have a network of friends on here, no one else cares about my PRs, macros, or mini-freakouts about the scale.
You'll be happy with your weight when you are happy with you BODY. And it's ok to change your goals body composition wise. When you stop seeing the scale drop, it's not the end all be all. You start focusing on performance goals. I don't see the scale drop anymore but I'm trying to squat 225 this year...you focus on performance goals and you know what? Body composition follows.
It's fine to have body composition preferences.3 -
Increased water in your muscles. This doesn't even sound like noob gains since you stated you'd been lifting prior. If you are gaining size while at a calorie deficit and likely not at the protein levels needed for hypertrophy, you need to find an exercise physiologist quickly. They'll want to study you!
Eta I fully appreciate that I'm not a special snowflake!
If you're worried, stop.
I'm not sure what you want.
I want to be strong and healthy, Im also desperate to avoid being skinny fat!
But not so desperate that you'd risk gaining even a modicum of muscle.1 -
I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
Please get some counseling on this. (not suggesting you're crazy, just that it's a complex issue) Those kinds of feelings have a potential to lead to eating disorders. You are already at a healthy body composition, so feeling euphoria at dropping pounds, to the point you feel a need to "replace" that sensation, is a bit worrying. You rational goal, as you have stated, is to be fit and healthy. Your brain triggers are working in conflict with your rational goal at this point.
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Can you post some pics of what it is you see in your arms being really bigger?
Not easily no...
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you're not going to see much muscle growth in just 7 weeks. it takes alot of effort and time to look 'bulky'. there is no myth and a fair amount of your 10lbs is probably water weight as well.0
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MarkusDarwath wrote: »I just get a real high from seeing the scale drop and don't know how to replace that when I stop losing weight, I don't know when I will be happy with my weight but I'm terrified of being skinny fat which is why I started lifting.
Please get some counseling on this. (not suggesting you're crazy, just that it's a complex issue) Those kinds of feelings have a potential to lead to eating disorders. You are already at a healthy body composition, so feeling euphoria at dropping pounds, to the point you feel a need to "replace" that sensation, is a bit worrying. You rational goal, as you have stated, is to be fit and healthy. Your brain triggers are working in conflict with your rational goal at this point.
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