Eating Clean - No Such Thing

highervibes

What the heck in for the roll to continue beating the dead horse!!! :drinker:

+1

Fitliz219

Lab testing among other things... having fatty liver disease or not... simple things like that... cholesterol, etc (really did I have to explain that?)

Joehenny

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

Strong first post

delicious_cocktail

But what about bears?

Achrya

Lab testing among other things... having fatty liver disease or not... simple things like that... cholesterol, etc (really did I have to explain that?)

Well then I'm perfectly healthy.

Does that make your original statement invalid?

Wetcoaster

Calories in/out = weight gain/loss

Body composition = macro nutrient sufficiency

Overall health = food sources

crandos

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

How does one quantify healthy insides?

I had healthy insides once.

PikaKnight

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

And this is why fights break out and people can't have discussions

delicious_cocktail

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

And this is why fights break out and people can't have discussions

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

stephross88

Nothing is going to make you pretty either but you don't see is posting about it...I know,I know, that will start fights....but I had to.

PikaKnight

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

And this is why fights break out and people can't have discussions

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

CyberEd312

Lab testing among other things... having fatty liver disease or not... simple things like that... cholesterol, etc (really did I have to explain that?)

Ok so testing is important = starting weight 560 pounds, diagnosed severely fatty liver, full blown type 2 diabetes, severe sleep apnea, very low kidney function, lipid panel so out of wack the Endo dr. told me point blank lose the weight or be dead within a couple years....... Fast forward 4 years, Lost 312 lbs. Liver healthy, kidneys functioning normal, A1c 5.3 (was 10.0 @ 560 lbs.), last 4 - 6month lipid panels "perfect" Endo dr. words not mine. have worked with a dietician who knows everything I eat and has no issues, Eat to my caloric intake, hit my macro's and spend my remaining calorie on discretionary items (ice cream, etc, etc.). I don't think a bowl of ice cream is going to kill me or a few pop tarts.... but again I would never tell anyone there diet is bad cause I don't classify food as clean or dirty.... Best of Luck

neanderthin

Calories in/out = weight gain/loss

Body composition = macro nutrient sufficiency

Overall health = food sources

That works.

ndj1979

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

Strong first post

actually it was second...but still strong...

ndj1979

why won't this thread die?

Joehenny

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but eating CRAP is not going to make your insides healthy, no matter how well you stay in your macros... perhaps you need to do some more research?

Strong first post

actually it was second...but still strong...

Naw was first when I posted then op poasted again....unless op posted the same time as me.

delicious_cocktail

why won't this thread die?

Because it eats whole grains and craps toxins.

LAW_714

Ok so testing is important = starting weight 560 pounds, diagnosed severely fatty liver, full blown type 2 diabetes, severe sleep apnea, very low kidney function, lipid panel so out of wack the Endo dr. told me point blank lose the weight or be dead within a couple years....... Fast forward 4 years, Lost 312 lbs. Liver healthy, kidneys functioning normal, A1c 5.3 (was 10.0 @ 560 lbs.), last 4 - 6month lipid panels "perfect" Endo dr. words not mine. have worked with a dietician who knows everything I eat and has no issues, Eat to my caloric intake, hit my macro's and spend my remaining calorie on discretionary items (ice cream, etc, etc.).

Wow. Great job!

zyxst

You dirty hot linker!

PikaKnight

Lab testing among other things... having fatty liver disease or not... simple things like that... cholesterol, etc (really did I have to explain that?)

Ok so testing is important = starting weight 560 pounds, diagnosed severely fatty liver, full blown type 2 diabetes, severe sleep apnea, very low kidney function, lipid panel so out of wack the Endo dr. told me point blank lose the weight or be dead within a couple years....... Fast forward 4 years, Lost 312 lbs. Liver healthy, kidneys functioning normal, A1c 5.3 (was 10.0 @ 560 lbs.), last 4 - 6month lipid panels "perfect" Endo dr. words not mine. have worked with a dietician who knows everything I eat and has no issues, Eat to my caloric intake, hit my macro's and spend my remaining calorie on discretionary items (ice cream, etc, etc.). I don't think a bowl of ice cream is going to kill me or a few pop tarts.... but again I would never tell anyone there diet is bad cause I don't classify food as clean or dirty.... Best of Luck