which one is better choice

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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Depends on your goals, the rest of your diet, etc.

    Why are those the only choices?

    Because i just want to know which is the healthiest, and yes i know their both not good for you but just wanting to know whuch would be the least worst out of the two..

    Again, depends on your goals.

    If in some no-choice universe where I had to pick one or the other, I'd look at calories and protein content. My guess is the burger is lower cal. Neither fits my usual goals for a meal, but both could fit in as an occasional meal if they were items I really enjoyed.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    As mentioned in other threads, you can't judge the "healthiness" of an individual food, without looking at the context of the overall diet.

    That said I love the idea of the fried chicken cheeseburger, but only if the buns are Krispy Kreme doughnuts.

    Why not? It only take one serving of a specific food to be a CALORIE BOMB to yur diet.

    But either of the foods you mentioned could be a CALORIE BOMB.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    There isn't enough information given to determine which is better IMO.

    And fried chicken piece except wing b/c too small.

    I have no idea what senteynce fragment means. But for me, I'd want to know:

    What condiments/toppings are on the burger (if any)? How big is the burger? What is the fat content of the meat and cheese on the burger? What is the fiber content of the bun?

    What type of breading is used on the fried chicken? What part of the chicken is being fried (breast, leg, thigh, etc.) and how big is it? What type of oil is being used?

    Was thinking more of a broad choice like a place that has no nutritionial info/ingredients on stuff like that but on a broad perspective, your typical 1/4 lb patty with lettuce,tomato, onions,pickles, mustard, and mayonnaise regular fat versus, chicken thigh, breaded and fried in oil that is trans fat free oils.

    Judging strictly by this I'd consider the chicken thigh to be the healthier option because I think I could fit into my normal day easier than the burger.
  • LazSommer
    LazSommer Posts: 1,851 Member
    cityruss wrote: »
    LazSommer wrote: »
    LazSommer wrote: »
    how are these the only choices if you care what is "healthy"?

    I just wanted to kniw whT is the healthiest out of the 2 choices to eat.

    neither are inherently healthy or unhealthy.

    I'm not sure OP is going to understand that.

    OP.
    EAT BURGER
    EAT CHICKEN
    ALL DIET IMPORTANT
    EACH FOOD NOT SO

    That flew over their head as well. We may need an interpreter.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    There isn't enough information given to determine which is better IMO.

    And fried chicken piece except wing b/c too small.

    I have no idea what senteynce fragment means. But for me, I'd want to know:

    What condiments/toppings are on the burger (if any)? How big is the burger? What is the fat content of the meat and cheese on the burger? What is the fiber content of the bun?

    What type of breading is used on the fried chicken? What part of the chicken is being fried (breast, leg, thigh, etc.) and how big is it? What type of oil is being used?

    Was thinking more of a broad choice like a place that has no nutritionial info/ingredients on stuff like that but on a broad perspective, your typical 1/4 lb patty with lettuce,tomato, onions,pickles, mustard, and mayonnaise regular fat versus, chicken thigh, breaded and fried in oil that is trans fat free oils.

    Where would you be that would have these two choices and none others, or is the deal that these are the two that sound appealing? I don't think I've ever been anywhere other than a full service restaurant where you'd have these two choices, and then there'd be other options too, plus sides (and you'd get a lot more chicken than just a side).

    If you want to cut calories in the burger get it without mayo (unless you like mayo -- I don't, personally).
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    edited August 2016
    cityruss wrote: »
    LazSommer wrote: »
    LazSommer wrote: »
    how are these the only choices if you care what is "healthy"?

    I just wanted to kniw whT is the healthiest out of the 2 choices to eat.

    neither are inherently healthy or unhealthy.

    I'm not sure OP is going to understand that.

    OP.
    EAT BURGER
    EAT CHICKEN
    ALL DIET IMPORTANT
    EACH FOOD NOT SO
    So WOW.
  • sllm1
    sllm1 Posts: 2,130 Member
    edited August 2016
    Let's compare for fun:

    KFC Chicken Thigh (original): 270 calories, 19 grams of fat
    Five Guys Little Cheeseburger (no condiments): 550 calories, 32 grams of fat

    Depending on preparation, restaurant, etc., the numbers will be different. But, in order to compare in my own head what I would choose, I chose these two restaurants.

    You could eat two fried chicken thighs for about the same calories as the cheeseburger.

    Healthwise, as everyone has said, there's no magical way to compare. I just eat what fits into my caloric goals with an eye on the protein as well.
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    The answer is "Neither are bad for humans".

    /Close thread.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Poisonous mushrooms and okra but that's me.
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  • extra_medium
    extra_medium Posts: 1,525 Member
    edited August 2016
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    As mentioned in other threads, you can't judge the "healthiness" of an individual food, without looking at the context of the overall diet.

    That said I love the idea of the fried chicken cheeseburger, but only if the buns are Krispy Kreme doughnuts.

    Why not? It only take one serving of a specific food to be a CALORIE BOMB to yur diet.

    And if your goal is to gain weight, that would make it "healthier" right? It also depends on what else you had to eat that day, or how much exercise you got. That's why people keep asking you questions instead of giving you answers. It's not as simple as "A vs B which is better?"
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Okay, well, you "could" get more micros from a burger. Throw it on a wheat bun, add spinach, tomato, pickles, onins... Maybe a fried egg and some cheese, and some avacodo...

    That's a nutrient filled food right there...
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Which one fits your calories and macros better, and which one do you feel like eating? Those are the only questions you need to ask yourself.
    I feel like the best choice is to know which is unhealthy to humans so i can avoid it .

    That would depend greatly on the human. For someone allergic to dairy the cheese would unhealthy. For someone with certain gut issues fried anything (including chicken) can be unhealthy. There is no simple answer to your question.

    You probably won't find a human food that is unhealthy to humans. If it were unhealthy to humans in general it wouldn't be considered "food". What's healthy for humans is a balanced diet that meets your nutritional needs and doesn't aggravate your body. Only you have enough information to determine which of the foods mentioned best fits that description for you.
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  • dragon_girl26
    dragon_girl26 Posts: 2,187 Member
    Chicken fried steak is a thing, no? Maybe you should make your own chicken fried hamburger. Then put it on a wheat bun, so it's healthy.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    Better for what purpose?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    sllm1 wrote: »
    Let's compare for fun:

    KFC Chicken Thigh (original): 270 calories, 19 grams of fat
    Five Guys Little Cheeseburger (no condiments): 550 calories, 32 grams of fat

    Depending on preparation, restaurant, etc., the numbers will be different. But, in order to compare in my own head what I would choose, I chose these two restaurants.

    You could eat two fried chicken thighs for about the same calories as the cheeseburger.

    Healthwise, as everyone has said, there's no magical way to compare. I just eat what fits into my caloric goals with an eye on the protein as well.

    Zee, this kinfa what i wanted, thanks

    But these are two examples, there are many others with different calories and macros. It really depends on where they are from.

    Also, for me, one deep fried chicken thigh would not be filling. A .25 lb burger might be. For the same amount of filling-ness, a burger will usually be lower cal, for me. However, how many cals the burger has (and how much protein) is going to depend a lot on the kind of beef chosen.
    ok i got a another question for you I got you ask would a deep fried foof be worser than a non deep fried food because i heard that deep fried food increases inflammation but heres the kicker!, last oct(mon 10) it was thrown down how processed meats cause cancer BUT darker meat like beef and porkhas a greater risk of cancer due to the more blood going through it versus meat like fish and chicken so let me reintroduce this matter, chicken, better than beef according to the last year study, deep fried in batter or burger, 100% beef but claimed worser by lastbyears research but instead of fryed with batter, grilled with no flame, but comes with that enriched flour bread with hfcs but has veggies lettuce, timato, onionsunlike the deep fried chicken for instance a medium thigh but i hope you get my equation , i hope i narrwed my question enough for you.

    You are really overthinking this.

    Neither of these meals would be recommended as a regular thing under the nutrition guidelines, etc., except that if you made the burger with lean meat and ate some vegetables with it, that would not be too far from normal recommendations.

    Therefore, to focus on these two choices (both of which can be included in an overall healthful diet) and then worry about the hypothetical differences without enough information to really compare them (where are they from, what's a reasonable calorie count -- which would be determined by the specifics of the two items and their preparation) makes no sense to me.
  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,909 Member
    Steak. The answer is always steak. Like the 12oz rib-eye I ate for dinner, medium rare verging on rare, with a generous amount of kosher salt.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Which one fits your calories and macros better, and which one do you feel like eating? Those are the only questions you need to ask yourself.
    I feel like the best choice is to know which is unhealthy to humans so i can avoid it .

    That would depend greatly on the human. For someone allergic to dairy the cheese would unhealthy. For someone with certain gut issues fried anything (including chicken) can be unhealthy. There is no simple answer to your question.

    You probably won't find a human food that is unhealthy to humans. If it were unhealthy to humans in general it wouldn't be considered "food". What's healthy for humans is a balanced diet that meets your nutritional needs and doesn't aggravate your body. Only you have enough information to determine which of the foods mentioned best fits that description for you.
    Ok what about a healthy human being that has no problems but watching hisor her circulatory system.

    Then neither would be unhealthy if they were part of an overall balanced diet.

    Neither of the foods you mentioned are likely to be considered a "healthy food" by any nutrition expert. But, that doesn't mean the foods are "unhealthy".

    A healthy diet need not consist of 100% "healthy foods".
    A diet of 100% "healthy foods" may be unhealthy.

    Stop focusing on the minutia and focus on the whole.
  • smotheredincheese
    smotheredincheese Posts: 559 Member
    sllm1 wrote: »
    but heres the kicker!, last oct(mon 10) it was thrown down how processed meats cause cancer BUT darker meat like beef and porkhas a greater risk of cancer due to the more blood going through it

    Don't believe everything you read.
    You're massively overthinking this. It's ONE meal, not the same thing you're going to eat everyday for the rest of your life.
    Eat the burger, eat the chicken, have an icecream sundae for dessert, you will be fine.
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