which one is better choice
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None of this makes sense, you have nothing to compare, they are both hypotheticals from places you that don't exist. So why don't you just find a place that has nutritional value for what you are looking for and compare those, because that is the closest you are going to get. You can't ask people to determine between to hypothetical foods for your health needs that you won’t tell people what they are.4
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Knightride48 wrote: »
Ok what about a healthy human being that has no problems but watching hisor her circulatory system.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »
That would depend greatly on the human. For someone allergic to dairy the cheese would unhealthy. For someone with certain gut issues fried anything (including chicken) can be unhealthy. There is no simple answer to your question.
You probably won't find a human food that is unhealthy to humans. If it were unhealthy to humans in general it wouldn't be considered "food". What's healthy for humans is a balanced diet that meets your nutritional needs and doesn't aggravate your body. Only you have enough information to determine which of the foods mentioned best fits that description for you.
You still can't judge a food in isolation. It also depends on everything else you eat as well, plus how much you burn and what your body's nutrient and calorie needs are.
Some days the burger will better fit your needs. Other days it may be the chicken.1 -
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Knightride48 wrote: »
What nutritionists are you referring to?
And have "they" described what damage is caused by having something that is a little high in fat in one meal? Breading on chicken is not fatty, its carby, and beef, depending on leanness is not fatty either. But they are higher in calories especially when you add the breading, bun.. etc..
If you want to avoid some fat in fried chicken, don;t fry it..Dry fry it, or just use cooking spray. .0 -
The cheeseburger is objectively better0
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You. Cannot. Judge. A. Food. In. Isolation.
Total. Diet. Matters. More. Than. A. Single. Food. Choice.7 -
You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.2
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Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.1 -
Knightride48 wrote: »
Whatever nutritionist you're reading/listening to is an idiot.5 -
Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.4
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Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.
Oh wait, is this Mr. Cake Sandwich? *Does a quick search* Yep. It's good ol' Mr. "Cake y or n?" It's been so long I had forgotten the name. It all makes sense now. Move along, nothing to see here.6 -
What the heck, I can't sleep anyway...
OP, where are these hypothetical choices being made? Some places the fried chicken will be higher cals & fat, some places the burger will be.
How many calories have you eaten so far today?
How is your calorie balance for the week
When was the last time you ate red meat?
How many grams of saturated fat have you eaten today?
How close are you to your sugar limit today?
Is there an option to leave the cheese off the burger?
Have you exercised or do you plan to exercise today?
Do you have an increased genetic risk of heart disease?
Are you prediabetic or diabetic?
Are you doing low carb?
Whether you are or not, how many grams of carbs have you had today?
Do you have a taste preference for chicken or beef?
How hungry are you?
Do you have another meal planned for the day, or is this your last meal?
Is the chicken regular breaded, or extra crispy? Is it lightly breaded or are there lots of clumps of breading?
Can you tell which one is greasier when it is served?
How about the salt factor - which is higher in sodium? Do you have high blood pressure?
Do you have celiac?
Does the burger bun have sesame or poppy seeds?
Do you have any intestinal issues that seeds might bother?
Does either come with a side dish? Do they come with the same side dish?
Do they both cost the same?
Are either of these foods a trigger food for you, for binging or some other disordered eating pattern?
How often are these two your only option? In other words, is this an every day thing or a one time only proposition?4 -
The Burger1
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The Chicken2
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now end this f'ing thread1
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Knightride48 wrote: »
What nutritionists say this? Can you provide a name or link?
What type of damage?1 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.
Oh wait, is this Mr. Cake Sandwich? *Does a quick search* Yep. It's good ol' Mr. "Cake y or n?" It's been so long I had forgotten the name. It all makes sense now. Move along, nothing to see here.
Wonder what the best bread is for a cake sandwich, anyway. I'm thinking maybe Kings Hawaiian.3 -
Just eat the *kitten* donut fried chicken cheeseburger.
"donut fried chicken cheeseburger y or n"3 -
Depends on your body, your diet, etc.
I'd have the burger. But I hate chicken.0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.
Oh wait, is this Mr. Cake Sandwich? *Does a quick search* Yep. It's good ol' Mr. "Cake y or n?" It's been so long I had forgotten the name. It all makes sense now. Move along, nothing to see here.
Wonder what the best bread is for a cake sandwich, anyway. I'm thinking maybe Kings Hawaiian.
Mmmmm, Kings Hawaiian! Yummy, yummy bread.1 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.
Oh wait, is this Mr. Cake Sandwich? *Does a quick search* Yep. It's good ol' Mr. "Cake y or n?" It's been so long I had forgotten the name. It all makes sense now. Move along, nothing to see here.
Wonder what the best bread is for a cake sandwich, anyway. I'm thinking maybe Kings Hawaiian.
And that reminds me of the world's saddest child's birthday cake...1 -
Screw it. Even if someone gives him a reasonable answer, he's just going to move the goalposts with more tangential criteria. Then later he's add some random crud he got from publix to confound even that answer. Then he'll just eat some cake between a couple slices of whole wheat, because that makes sense in his world.
I nearly choked while eating a cherry tomato because I was laughing at the image of the cake sandwich. Your post is now causing me to reconsider the pre- and post-prandial impact of all deadly nightshade vegetables. You, sir, are a lifesaver! I might've gone on eating those dangerous things for, well, minutes....3 -
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Saturated fat, FTW!!0
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