If I cut out bread will that help loosing weight?

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  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    mamadon wrote: »
    Debbie_Ferr wrote: »
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
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    Don't believe me? Put down T-nation and pick up a biochemistry textbook and look it up.

    Well, if this doesn't make everything crystal clear for the OP, nothing will.

    Lol, I look at stuff like this and I swear a door closes in my mind and says "nope."

    Down and dirty summary - all macronutrients (carbs, fats, proteins) funnel into a series of chemical reactions called the common catabolic pathway to be broken down for energy. And, as was said before, an excess of ANY macronutrient will be stored as fat.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Debbie_Ferr wrote: »
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
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    Don't believe me? Put down T-nation and pick up a biochemistry textbook and look it up.

    Well, if this doesn't make everything crystal clear for the OP, nothing will.

    I don't believe the detail provided in that particular post was meant directly for the OP, but rather the people in this thread willfully spreading misinformation about thermodynamics and biochemistry.

  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited September 2016
    Debbie_Ferr wrote: »
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
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    Don't believe me? Put down T-nation and pick up a biochemistry textbook and look it up.

    Well, if this doesn't make everything crystal clear for the OP, nothing will.

    :-P yeah I get that but can't really make it "simple" because it isn't simple, that is why people go to school for years to learn about it. Luckily that is why we have our society geared towards training people on certain complicated topics to become experts in those fields, so that you don't have to as well you can just rely on their expertise. At least that is how it was supposed to work, apparently everyone now just treats that concept like it is somehow elitist and pretends they can "research" everything for themselves via the internet because that works just oh so well. Sorry, snarky rant.

    Point is we do know that protein can be metabolically converted to fat and the information for how IS out there. Never claimed it was easy to understand. Never claimed that without the education and training one would be even able to know how to look for it or once finding it even know what they were looking at.

    If I just said "protein can get converted to fat" and not given anything to support that though I'm sure I would have been called out for not citing or providing evidence so I did. I can't force people to look at it nor do I feel the need to spoon-feed anyone the info....just say that yes, it is out there.

    The comment was directed at those claiming that protein couldn't be metabolically converted into fat which is just wrong. As for the OP yeah you can avoid bread and see if that helps you reach your calories and feel less hungry...you don't need bread. But if you like bread and you can eat bread while also meeting your calorie goal then sure eat bread. There isn't anything out there like "Everyone just do X and you will succeed" its more personal than that so can't really advise someone on it...just say "sure, give it a try...why not, but you don't need to if you don't want to"
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited September 2016
    geneticsteacher wrote: »
    mamadon wrote: »
    Debbie_Ferr wrote: »
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    figure-07-06-01.jpeg

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    590metabolism.gif

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    Don't believe me? Put down T-nation and pick up a biochemistry textbook and look it up.

    Well, if this doesn't make everything crystal clear for the OP, nothing will.

    Lol, I look at stuff like this and I swear a door closes in my mind and says "nope."

    Down and dirty summary - all macronutrients (carbs, fats, proteins) funnel into a series of chemical reactions called the common catabolic pathway to be broken down for energy. And, as was said before, an excess of ANY macronutrient will be stored as fat.

    Yeah that....basically all the macros can get converted to a hub metabolite in the form of acetyl-CoA which can get shunted into either being anabolically broken down to get energy or be catabolically built up to derive any of the primary macromolecules including fats.

    The top figure shows exactly where each of the 20 amino acids goes into the cycle that would allow it to go to acetyl-CoA. The next figure shows the larger system including lipogenesis (fat creation) and how acetyl-CoA can feed into that. The third figure is a simplified cartoony version of the second figure and the final figure just rearranges that to show the hub-like nature of acetyl-CoA.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    johunt615 wrote: »
    I'm losing weight and I eat bread - killer Dave 60 cal bread. Bloating is an issue for some folks with bread.

    Ive heard this before. Out of curiosity why do people care about bloating? Its not fat, its just water retention...has no bearing on your health or fitness. So why do people care? They really want a particular number on their scale or its an aesthetic thing?

    Bloating in the fingers make rings too tight. Bloating in the feet makes shoes too tight. Maybe bloating also reminds women of TOM and they just don't like it.

    That isn't the kind of bloating to which OP was referring. Unless the need to break wind somehow expands your feet and sticks rings to your fingers.

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