STOP saying healthy food is more expensive
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I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grass-fed-beef/AN020530 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
Aldi's got some grassfed beef for $4.49 a pound, so not necessarily.0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
Aldi's got some grassfed beef for $4.49 a pound, so not necessarily.0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
For example, I stopped buying new clothes a few months ago to invest in a sweatshop-free closet. At first, it was difficult. Why would I want to pay $10 for a used dress when I could hit up JCP or TJMaxx for a new one on clearance for less than that?? But then I go back to the ultimate goal, which is to know where my money is going. So I pay that $10 for that used dress because the money helps homeless families in my community. And then I limit how much I spend on clothes because sometimes buying used isn't always the cheapest. But it's something I believe in.
On another note, I do like turtles!
i am all to glad to buy my clothes at places i know where a young kids blood, sweat and tears are interwoven into the fabric for $.035 cents per week0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
Aldi's got some grassfed beef for $4.49 a pound, so not necessarily.
Meh-- watch Aldi meat products-- there is no butcher on site. There is no way to tell how long ago the meat was processed, nor what crap was put into it to keep it looking "fresh."0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grass-fed-beef/AN02053
But what if you are hitting your fat grams and getting your Omega 3s from a different food? Why bother spending the extra money? I don't care what label you put on it, I'm not paying $26 for a steak, even if someone else is cooking it and serving it to my fancy table with a glass of red wine. :smokin:
ETA: It just goes to prove my point. "Eating healthy" is what's relative here, not prices.0 -
Some thoughts, not only directed to you, but to people with these attitudes in general... why would you have so many kids if you can't afford to feed them proper healthy food? Someone who puts their money into their health is not on a high horse, they are probably someone who has made smart decisions. Like we're suppose to feel sorry for you because you went out and had too many kids?
Life can change your situation in a blink of an eye, honey. My "too many kids" have always been taken care of by me, and no other. But when the $h!t hits the fan and your world gets flipped upside down in a blink of an eye, as it did for me when we lost our home in a natural disaster, you find yourself fighting to stay afloat. I had a nest egg. I had a safety net. I planned. And it was all taken from me. My nest egg suddenly went into replacing every thing I needed to get by in life.
Take a moment... look around your home. Take a 1 minute inventory of the things you use every single day and know that you NEED (not the things you want, or like to have to make life easier, but the things you absolutely need). Now, attach a price to those things. Ignore counting it up for kids, or your partner. Just attach a price times one for yourself. You can find how quickly it adds up. Toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, soap, towels, washcloth, underwear, shirts, pants, socks, shoes, hairbrush, shampoo, conditioner, toilet paper, a toilet, a sink, aspirin, food, a fridge, an oven, pots, pans, utensils, plates, cups, bowls, napkins, etc..... it just keeps on adding up. When you turn around and EVERYTHING you had is suddenly just gone, and you now have to take that safety net and use it to replace all of it again for not just yourself, but your "too many kids", and your husband (who helped you to care for and create those "too many kids") - you realize that sometimes you are entirely at the mercy of fate.
You can talk all day long about how to be prepared. But when your ship sinks and your life boat gets a hole in it because it smashed into a rock, and your life vest breaks a belt and falls off of you while you're swimming - you have nothing left but your instincts to fight and survive, and luck if another life saver just happens to come floating by, or a helicopter above comes roaring past you and spots you. This is reality. This means there is no room for ANYONE to lecture ANYONE on their situation, because damned if I don't know better... life happens.
You can say "Probably" all day long until the sky turns green with pink polka dots for all I care. But when you get down to the harsh reality, even the smartest, most prepared, most wealthy, most healthy people get into a jam that is far beyond their own control and have to find a way to get by. If you never face this, then thank God above, because I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Watch your words. You can't take them back when they are said, and whether you seem to care or not, the negativity, anger, and hatred you spew forth can truly impact someone who is already on unstable grounds and fighting to be the best they can be. Perhaps you have no care for if you are the one who pushes them over the edge to giving up, not trying anymore, or not caring anymore - but I do care. We're all here for the obvious reason to get to a better part of ourselves and be healthy. We all have a different way of achieving it. We all have a different plot to play out, but the story is all the same for each of us. So when you go to cutting down parents who dearly love and care for their kids, and do THEIR BEST to provide, take a step back from that fine line you insist on walking and realize - you have your own set of shoes to walk in, and you haven't the slightest clue what it feels like in someone else's shoes until you try them on for size - and waking in ONE pair of shoes that differs from your own doesn't make you an expert at all the varieties that are out there. Got it?
Now... as for me? Despite me having "too many kids", I will continue to love them, nurture them, care for them, and feed them the best foods I CAN AFFORD with MY OWN MONEY that I WORK FOR. And you? You can take the easy job of sitting over there in your chair, in front of your computer, and judging me and anyone else who you feel like judging. But me? I'm going to take the higher road and keep encouraging folks who have a better attitude and understand that we aren't all folks from little boxes on the hill side, who all come out just the same. Recognize that song?0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grass-fed-beef/AN02053
But what if you are hitting your fat grams and getting your Omega 3s from a different food? Why bother spending the extra money? I don't care what label you put on it, I'm not paying $26 for a steak, even if someone else is cooking it and serving it to my fancy table with a glass of red wine. :smokin:
ETA: It just goes to prove my point. "Eating healthy" is what's relative here, not prices.
I do get omega 3s from wild salmon - $21.99 a pound. Which is certainly cheaper. but
Different things are worth different amounts to different folks...0 -
In my first response, I forgot to mention that with 'buying healthy' I had the lifestyle change of not eating out. So, in the food department I save more money by not eating out. So in that regard it is also cheaper... once again though, I have the budget and the location to eat healthy, cheaply at home. Not everyone has that.0
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I totally agree with you. I keep having the same discussions. When I was really broke (back in school), I kept buying those dollar bags at the store, those mixed veggies that are not "perfect" any more. 1$/bag, makes soup for a week. (plus some broth and maybe pasta or rice, that's less than 5$ for 5 meals. (yes, you get creative when you are broke)
no excuses.
PS: realized it doesn't show that I responded to the very first post.0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
Aldi's got some grassfed beef for $4.49 a pound, so not necessarily.
Meh-- watch Aldi meat products-- there is no butcher on site. There is no way to tell how long ago the meat was processed, nor what crap was put into it to keep it looking "fresh."
There aren't any butchers present at the co-op where I pick up my meat, either. I guess they put crap into it.
Also, it's frozen, so I don't care how long ago it was butchered.0 -
she's not married, no kids... of course it's easy now!!! geesh!!!
Doesn't matter. Her main point is that healthy food is cheaper. You just have to shop smart and make time to prep meals. Clearly, if people have enough time to post on these boards, they have enough time to prep for meals regardless of their marital status.
Another youngin'... calling the kettle black when they too join us here with two cents to toss into the fountain of opinions, and assuming each person here doesn't plan meals, etc.. lol! Isn't she cute?
Come back to me in 10 years sweetie. I remember 24.... I was just as ignorant as you. Trust me though, something big will happen and it will change you though, and suddenly you'll want to go back and slap yourself ten years ago.0 -
How about we encourage folks to MOVE more. even Coca cola is promoting eating less and move more. What i notice on this board is that everyone thinks their way is the right way. There are healthy people who are not growing their own fruits, killing their own animals, shopping at whole foods, etc.
If you (not everybody) are on this board to lose weight chances are that at some point you made bad food choices and you probably were not that active.
So because you can do it on $30 or less doesn't mean that it works for everybody else. Each person has to do what works for themselves and or family!
Food is to be enjoyed and reading some of ya'll post i'll say it again some of the stuff you are eating is not appetizing and it doesn't sound good at all.0 -
A punnet of raspberries, 500g pot of greek yoghurt, piece of cheese (about 150g), pot of hummus, small bag of roasted almonds, bag of six small apples and a 100g bar of dark chocolate for snacks at work just cost me £13.51...(that's about US$20) - there's no way the OP's weekly budget would cut the mustard for a single person in London, let alone a couple. A comparable number of calories in junk food would have been a lot cheaper (about £7 or £8 at most).
Healthy food IS more expensive, especially in city locations where there are no accessible buy-in-bulk shops, and most people don't have the spare living space to accommodate bulk purchases anyway!
Rasberries: are they on sale? in season? if neither, don't buy it. buy fruits that are on sale and cheaper per gramm.
greek yoghurt: buy store brand. or don't. buy regular yogurt. buy from the "priced to go" shelf
cheese: same as yogurt. also, buy bricks, standard cheese and cut thinly. will last weeks.
pot of hummus: hahahahaha. are you serious? buy dried chickpeas, tahini and garlic. make at home. costs less.
roasted nuts: buy bulk
apples: buy cheapest kind, buy local, sometimes market is cheaper. also loose may to be cheaper.
dark chocolate: i don't negotiate on chocolate. but again, buy cheapest brand.
I am not devaluing your experience. But that's my experience. you can cut down and still eat healthy. I know London is super expensive, heck I am in York and am shocked by my bill.0 -
shashi1 posted:
Exactly how much it costs my family of four. Glad I'm not the only one. lol
1) How old are the people in your home that you are feeding on this $30 a week.
2) Please post the meal plan in detail for us, for that week's worth of meals and include breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
3) Are you using coupons, clearances, and/or sales?
4) Please post if items in your meal plan are store brand, on brand, organic, or chemical laced.
5) Is this including welfare, and if so, is it before or after you use it?
6) Please post where you are shopping at and the city/state/country you are shopping in.
7) Please post the calories you are eating per day (just you, not your family).
8) Please post the serving sizes of each meal for each person, including yourself.
When I see these things, and they add up to what you proclaim, I will officially offer you praise, and inquire to you for more information on how to achieve this. I look forward to your reply!0 -
A punnet of raspberries, 500g pot of greek yoghurt, piece of cheese (about 150g), pot of hummus, small bag of roasted almonds, bag of six small apples and a 100g bar of dark chocolate for snacks at work just cost me £13.51...(that's about US$20) - there's no way the OP's weekly budget would cut the mustard for a single person in London, let alone a couple. A comparable number of calories in junk food would have been a lot cheaper (about £7 or £8 at most).
Healthy food IS more expensive, especially in city locations where there are no accessible buy-in-bulk shops, and most people don't have the spare living space to accommodate bulk purchases anyway!
Rasberries: are they on sale? in season? if neither, don't buy it. buy fruits that are on sale and cheaper per gramm.
greek yoghurt: buy store brand. or don't. buy regular yogurt. buy from the "priced to go" shelf
cheese: same as yogurt. also, buy bricks, standard cheese and cut thinly. will last weeks.
pot of hummus: hahahahaha. are you serious? buy dried chickpeas, tahini and garlic. make at home. costs less.
roasted nuts: buy bulk
apples: buy cheapest kind, buy local, sometimes market is cheaper. also loose may to be cheaper.
dark chocolate: i don't negotiate on chocolate. but again, buy cheapest brand.
I am not devaluing your experience. But that's my experience. you can cut down and still eat healthy. I know London is super expensive, heck I am in York and am shocked by my bill.
Oh oh, do me!
I spent $6 on 3 grapefruits. This was the sale price
I spent $6 on strawberries. Not the sale price, but the grapefruit was the only fruit on sale so.
Spent $2 on frozen broccoli (sale!)
Spent $1.69 on a head of lettuce (sale! Also I use 2 heads weekly, so I don't have the option to wait for a sale week even when it's at it's usual $2 a head)
Bag of Spinach $4 (2 for 8 this week, lucky me)
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$22, just on produce. I still need meat, dairy, and starches to get through the week.0 -
In my first response, I forgot to mention that with 'buying healthy' I had the lifestyle change of not eating out. So, in the food department I save more money by not eating out. So in that regard it is also cheaper... once again though, I have the budget and the location to eat healthy, cheaply at home. Not everyone has that.
Good point! We have saved a ton by not eating out, and we have been eating better by making our own food. Therefore, even though I could personally feed my 8 person family cheaper with crappy, junk food, I can afford healthy, delicious food by living smarter.
Regardless of our eternal debate about the price comparison of healthy vs unhealthy foods, the non-monetary benefits of eating healthy are priceless. Perhaps this is something we can all agree upon.0 -
Thank you for writing this! Excellent!0
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Just got back from the grocery store. Had to buy a few things we were out of. Not counting the batteries or the dog treats I bought my bill was $82.00. All I bought was:
Lunch meat: 1 lb ham; 1 lb roast beef
Deli cheese: 1 lb
Chicken thighs
Pork chops - BOGO
A small container of olives
3 stuffed grape leaves
Egg whites
Cottage cheese
Yogurt - BIG container
Feta cheese
Two bottles of lemonade (for mixers) ON SALE
Grapes
6 one liter bottles of seltzer ON SALE
And this was WITH my discount card. Had it been a trip where I had to buy produce, other meats, fish, eggs, milk etc. it would have been close to $200.
Unless OP is shopping at a warehouse type store -- which I occasionally do and I can get a lot of produce for very little money but you have to pick through it to find the good stuff -- I don't see how someone shopping at a "normal" grocery store can feed a family healthy for $500 -
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Once upon a time, WIC did not allow this. Bet you didn't know that though, otherwise you'd have been kinder in your reply, and dropping the "Umm" from your condescending, know it all kind of reply. You can thank people like me, who fought for reform of that system, so you could be rude with informing someone about fact checking.
Also... once upon a time, WIC would have called CPS/DCFS on you for fighting with them about them trying to force you to feed your baby unhealthy or wrong things that your child's doctor has stated clearly is not something the child can handle. I went through this way back when we discovered my, now 17 yr old, son was cow milk intolerant, and before soy formula was an option with WIC. Used to be, they only covered cow milk based formula. But it got even more interesting when we found out my son was also allergic to SOY, and the only formula he could take was a goat's milk recipe. They argued it was unsanitary, not pasteurized or homogenized, and showed true ignorance. To which I fought back on, and my child's doctor backed me up - and I won. They finally gave in and created a voucher that allowed me to purchase cans of goats milk for my child's formula.
Yep.... years ago, when I was poverty level even with working three jobs to make ends meet, I had the pride swallowing joy of being a welfare Mommy, and I learned a few things about this wonderful system you speak of. Lots of things have changed over the course of a decade and a half concerning WIC. So before you snipe someone's ignorance with some facts of your own - consider the person commenting may be working from memories THEY experienced prior to reforms made to make it healthier for women, infants, and children who need to use it now.0 -
I was going to write something...but then I was reading all the responses and forgot what I was going to post about...except that it was grocery related. Oh wait, I think I remember... Healthy food is more expensive. It is. I went to the grocery store yesterday and a steak was $8. Then I went to the grocery store down the street where all the food is local and super healthy and good for you. A frozen steak was $26. Healthy food is more expensive. I think what you intended to say was that although healthy food is expensive, you can make it work if you really try.
What makes the $26 steak healthier than the $8 steak? Seriously? Taste better, maybe, but healthier? Are you sure?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grass-fed-beef/AN02053
But what if you are hitting your fat grams and getting your Omega 3s from a different food? Why bother spending the extra money? I don't care what label you put on it, I'm not paying $26 for a steak, even if someone else is cooking it and serving it to my fancy table with a glass of red wine. :smokin:
ETA: It just goes to prove my point. "Eating healthy" is what's relative here, not prices.
I do get omega 3s from wild salmon - $21.99 a pound. Which is certainly cheaper. but
Different things are worth different amounts to different folks...
Exactly! I can get my Omega 3s from hemp seeds for pennies per serving. I'm not paying $22 for fish any more than I will pay $26 for a steak.0 -
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A punnet of raspberries, 500g pot of greek yoghurt, piece of cheese (about 150g), pot of hummus, small bag of roasted almonds, bag of six small apples and a 100g bar of dark chocolate for snacks at work just cost me £13.51...(that's about US$20) - there's no way the OP's weekly budget would cut the mustard for a single person in London, let alone a couple. A comparable number of calories in junk food would have been a lot cheaper (about £7 or £8 at most).
Healthy food IS more expensive, especially in city locations where there are no accessible buy-in-bulk shops, and most people don't have the spare living space to accommodate bulk purchases anyway!
Rasberries: are they on sale? in season? if neither, don't buy it. buy fruits that are on sale and cheaper per gramm.
greek yoghurt: buy store brand. or don't. buy regular yogurt. buy from the "priced to go" shelf
cheese: same as yogurt. also, buy bricks, standard cheese and cut thinly. will last weeks.
pot of hummus: hahahahaha. are you serious? buy dried chickpeas, tahini and garlic. make at home. costs less.
roasted nuts: buy bulk
apples: buy cheapest kind, buy local, sometimes market is cheaper. also loose may to be cheaper.
dark chocolate: i don't negotiate on chocolate. but again, buy cheapest brand.
I am not devaluing your experience. But that's my experience. you can cut down and still eat healthy. I know London is super expensive, heck I am in York and am shocked by my bill.
Priced to go means about to go beyond safe consumption dates - not a risk that's sensible to take with dairy where contamination and spoilage is fast and can have severe effects, especially not worth the risk on a 500g pot that will last a week or more. This was the store brand of greek yoghurt, and no, I'm not swapping to 'normal' yoghurt instead - greek has more protein (one of the cheaper protein sources in comparison to meat), bulks meals out better, and lasts longer. The point is that a healthy shop providing good nutrition should ideally be inexpensive, or at least not more expensive than an unhealthy set of purchases, not that you replace items with cheaper things that have inferior nutritional value.
Of course one can find ways to spend less - believe me when I say I buy in-season fruit and veg, for example - and not always with nutritional compromises, but the savings are much greater if one is time-rich, or if one has a lifestyle that can be adapted easily. The question remains though, why must healthy eating be inconvenient, as well as expensive? Surely we should be advocating that healthy choices must be inexpensive and convenient - it's the only way people in general will adopt better food habits. If it takes too long, requires too much hassle, or is more expensive (and in many cases it's all of those things!), it's no wonder the majority of people eat other foods that are cheap, easy to get hold of and don't require a trek out of town on unreliable public transport to find a bulk-sale shop or cheap farm stall.0 -
Eating healthier IS more expensive, BUT you adjust and deal with it.0
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Eating healthier IS more expensive, BUT you adjust and deal with it.
I disagree. I eat real food, seldom processed stuff. I see what others buy at the grocery store, since it is obviously displayed in their carts. There's no way they are paying less than me.0 -
That's okay that you disagree. The organic/healthier items are way more in my opinion.0
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Yes, if you are buying organic/GMO-free foods from the perimeter of the store, it IS more expensive.0
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That's okay that you disagree. The organic/healthier items are way more in my opinion.
Sorry, I respectfully beg to differ. I eat grass fed free range meats and dairy, free range pastured eggs, wild caught fish as well as organic vegetables too. The difference is that I cook a lot, and don't buy processed stuff. I think buying processed food is where the money goes down the drain.0 -
The difference is that I cook a lot
Okay, I understand this perspective. I do. Where I think folks are being unkind is assuming that everyone has the time & knowledge to cook. Consistently. Especially if they are feeding children, too.
CAN you eat healthy less expensively? Sure. Yet it takes time and energy, especially when you're learning how. Not everyone has that time and energy on their hands, especially as a first step.
In the UK, 1 in 6 hasn't cooked from scratch. Do I think the numbers are better in the US? No way. I did however, teach my kids to cook, and when possible, I do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451525/One-cooked-meal-scratch-use-packets-jars-ingredients-times-week.html
We need to support people with a "start where you are" attitude.0
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