No Veggies/LCHF
kschwab0203
Posts: 610 Member
I want to just start this post by saying I know how terrible of a person I am that I do not eat veggies and how healthy they are for you, but such is life....
I was looking over the guidelines for LCHF and was thinking all I'd be able to eat is eggs, meat and cheese. I mean is there anything else if you don't like veggies?
I feel like LCHF might help with my low blood sugar issues (aka moodiness), but I cant just eat eggs, meat, and cheese.
Any thoughts? (Don't tell me to eat veggies LOL)
I was looking over the guidelines for LCHF and was thinking all I'd be able to eat is eggs, meat and cheese. I mean is there anything else if you don't like veggies?
I feel like LCHF might help with my low blood sugar issues (aka moodiness), but I cant just eat eggs, meat, and cheese.
Any thoughts? (Don't tell me to eat veggies LOL)
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Well there is really nothing more I can offer since there are so many limitations... Veggies are amazing maybe try fruits and veggies that have low GI.... green smoothies, coconut butters other oils.1
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My husband has food texture issues and can't/won't eat veggies either. Recently he's started drinking Tropicana Farmstand Tropical Green juice. One serving has the equivalent of one veggie/one fruit. It's not ideal but he can tolerate it so something is better than nothing! It's 120 calories for 8 fl oz/27 g of carbs, so I don't know if that would fit in with your woe, but it might be something to look into.2
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Avocados, nuts, nut butters, full fat dairy (milk, cream in your coffee, yogurt, etc), fatty fish, etc...
I'd personally look up LCHF recipes to see what's out there...if none of this appeals to you, this WOE would likely be a huge struggle for you...LCHF is a pretty restrictive diet...you also have to watch the meat (protein) as excessive protein will just be converted to glucose.5 -
Fruit, nuts, beans? Also, if there are any vegetables at all that you eat - there's a bajillion of them afterall - don't cut those out rather limit the quantity if they're higher carb.
Also, also, have you considered upping your activity level or adding some deliberate exercise? More activity can cover a multitude of diet sins if your carb/sugar issues aren't too far gone yet. Just a thought.0 -
I think you might have problems being hungry (or way overeating calorie wise) if you don't add in some veggies. Are there some you can tolerate? maybe there are different ways you can prepare it. If you really can't tolerate veggies, I am not sure if this diet will work for you. You need to be able to supplement the high fat (aka small portions) with something low carb that will fill you up. Maybe there is something else you can try?1
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The more I'm reading about LCHF I don't think it's for me. The veggies are a texture thing for me that I have struggled with my whole life. Believe me I wish it wasn't gross for me to eat them, it would make losing weight a lot easier.
Thanks for all the feedback!2 -
Have you tried zoodles? Or are their any veggies you like at all? I hate them for the most part, but I can deal with carrots, asparagus and artichokes.1
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Spook_Skywalker wrote: »Have you tried zoodles? Or are their any veggies you like at all? I hate them for the most part, but I can deal with carrots, asparagus and artichokes.
What's a zoodle?
If potatoes are considered a veggie, lol
No, no veggies at all...well maybe corn, but I think most do not consider that a veggie0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »Spook_Skywalker wrote: »Have you tried zoodles? Or are their any veggies you like at all? I hate them for the most part, but I can deal with carrots, asparagus and artichokes.
What's a zoodle?
If potatoes are considered a veggie, lol
No, no veggies at all...well maybe corn, but I think most do not consider that a veggie
They are vegetables, they are just starchy vegetables...they definitely wouldn't work except in very small amounts for LCHF.0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »The more I'm reading about LCHF I don't think it's for me. The veggies are a texture thing for me that I have struggled with my whole life. Believe me I wish it wasn't gross for me to eat them, it would make losing weight a lot easier.
Thanks for all the feedback!
Perfectly understandable. You have to enjoy your food in order to make sustainable changes. Maybe work on improving the quality of the carbs you eat in addition to more exercise? A lot of people have good results eating more whole grains and starches and less refined flour and sugar. There's a balance that will work for you - just keep trying until you find it. Best wishes.0 -
Noodles made out of Zucchini. Coming from a person that hates most veggies and I hate Zucchini, I actually really like this made with chicken
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Also, have you tried all veggies and decided you didn't like them? Because how they are prepared makes a big difference as well.4
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I have seen zero carb dieters and I think it would be so difficult (but I'm a veggie lover).0
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If it's texture then make soup and purées8
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My family has been eating the LCHF/Ketogenic lifestyle for 10 weeks now. Once you get past the first 3-4 days, you won't crave carbs/sugar as much. I haven't been eating a ton of vegetables. I throw spinach into egg cups for breakfast and you don't even notice it. We'll grill up or roast our veggies with dinner. Make Cauliflower mash.....it's really good loaded with all the stuff you would put into a loaded baked potato - cheese, heavy cream, bacon, green onions, etc. I actually like this way of eating because we get to eat full fat cheese, cottage cheese, heavy cream, etc. Our family has also been losing weight! What more can you ask for. Go onto Pinterest, there are TONS of recipes to make.2
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I used to hate veggies too. But, then I started eating them raw or just barely cooked (so they are still a bit crunchy), it worked. I now love veggies as long as they are cooked to my liking. I don't know if this would work for you - but I had to find something to fill me up at meal time. Glad I did - I've lost well over 100 lbs.3
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Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »I want to just start this post by saying I know how terrible of a person I am that I do not eat veggies and how healthy they are for you, but such is life....
I was looking over the guidelines for LCHF and was thinking all I'd be able to eat is eggs, meat and cheese. I mean is there anything else if you don't like veggies?
I feel like LCHF might help with my low blood sugar issues (aka moodiness), but I cant just eat eggs, meat, and cheese.
Any thoughts? (Don't tell me to eat veggies LOL)
Cutting out starches is way easier than it seems (at least for me it was) I don't want or crave potatoes, rice or noodles now. If you don't eat veggies then you are eating mostly meats, eggs and cheese anyway, I would guess, with those aforementioned starches added in. I don't care for veggies very much either and actually many are not exactly LCHF friendly - carrots, for example. Way too much sugar for me to eat those. I eat what I like and discard the rest. I've never eaten many veggies and I will tell you I am healthier now than I've been in years and I'm Keto.
There are so many wonderful recipes out there and foods to eat that are low carb substitutes that I find it very sustainable. There are breads ways to make things like pizza crust and breads that are tasty to many of us. While others may not like them. You have to learn to be brave and experiment with your meals and foods. Listen to @nvomomketo and check out the group. You may find out you are surprised by what's available to you!
Good luck!
ETA: Please do check out the group - you will find factual information that will help you make more of an informed decision vs speculation and misunderstandings. There are people with many years of experience, links to reputable information and ongoing real time learning every day. If in the end, it's not for you, then fine, you made an informed decision and you do you another way.0 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I just think that if you completely cut out veggies and fruit (since on LCHF you can't really have fruit), you are missing out on a lot of fiber, vitamins and minerals. While the short term effects might not be bad, it's not good for you in the long run. If you are doing LCHF, you really need to eat at least some vegetables.1 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »The more I'm reading about LCHF I don't think it's for me. The veggies are a texture thing for me that I have struggled with my whole life. Believe me I wish it wasn't gross for me to eat them, it would make losing weight a lot easier.
Thanks for all the feedback!
The good news is, you really don't have to change the things you eat, you need to change how much you eat. I am about 140ish pounds down these days, and I eat exactly the same kinds of things I ate before. There may be health reasons you will want to incorporate veggies, but there's nothing special about either veggies or low carb except in that veggies tend to be filling for their calories, and some people find themselves less hungry on low carb (I sure didn't!).
If the thought of LCHF isn't appealing to you - don't do it. You can keep a modest calorie deficit and eat whatever you like and you'll lose weight.4 -
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No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.8
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Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I'm confused on.....:"plant matter" and the foods you listed above, all of which are fruits and grains, except for the pickle which is pickled cucumber.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I love my vegetables, but I've never thought of blending them as sauces for casseroles and pasta I'll have to try that.
I also don't now what rabbit food is....when I was a kid, my rabbit ate rabbit food from the pet food store.No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.
Finally, this is what I was thinking. There are so many types of vegetables that it seems odd that a person doesn't like a few of them.
My discovery from last year is spaghetti squash, which can be made into some wonderful dishes, including deserts!0 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I'm confused on.....:"plant matter" and the foods you listed above, all of which are fruits and grains, except for the pickle which is pickled cucumber.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I love my vegetables, but I've never thought of blending them as sauces for casseroles and pasta I'll have to try that.
I also don't now what rabbit food is....when I was a kid, my rabbit ate rabbit food from the pet food store.No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.
Finally, this is what I was thinking. There are so many types of vegetables that it seems odd that a person doesn't like a few of them.
My discovery from last year is spaghetti squash, which can be made into some wonderful dishes, including deserts!
Spaghetti squash with butter, shaved parmesan, garlic, basil...omgggggg1 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I'm confused on.....:"plant matter" and the foods you listed above, all of which are fruits and grains, except for the pickle which is pickled cucumber.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I love my vegetables, but I've never thought of blending them as sauces for casseroles and pasta I'll have to try that.
I also don't now what rabbit food is....when I was a kid, my rabbit ate rabbit food from the pet food store.No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.
Finally, this is what I was thinking. There are so many types of vegetables that it seems odd that a person doesn't like a few of them.
My discovery from last year is spaghetti squash, which can be made into some wonderful dishes, including deserts!
Spaghetti squash with butter, shaved parmesan, garlic, basil...omgggggg
I haven't thought of this.....I LOVE Parmesan, and it's one of the few cheeses I can eat (lactose intolerant), and basil. I've got to try this! Maybe this weekend!0 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I'm confused on.....:"plant matter" and the foods you listed above, all of which are fruits and grains, except for the pickle which is pickled cucumber.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I love my vegetables, but I've never thought of blending them as sauces for casseroles and pasta I'll have to try that.
I also don't now what rabbit food is....when I was a kid, my rabbit ate rabbit food from the pet food store.No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.
Finally, this is what I was thinking. There are so many types of vegetables that it seems odd that a person doesn't like a few of them.
My discovery from last year is spaghetti squash, which can be made into some wonderful dishes, including deserts!
Spaghetti squash with butter, shaved parmesan, garlic, basil...omgggggg
I haven't thought of this.....I LOVE Parmesan, and it's one of the few cheeses I can eat (lactose intolerant), and basil. I've got to try this! Maybe this weekend!
Totally not my idea. But we eat it a lot.
http://damndelicious.net/2016/05/06/garlic-parmesan-spaghetti-squash/0 -
Do you like tomato sauce? Soup? Salad? My husband doesn't much like most vegetables, but he'll eat them in soup or in a tomato sauce dish like chili or spaghetti.
I've done no carb eating in the past. It gets very boring, very fast, and constipation is a major problem. I didn't eat eggs or chicken for years after doing Stillman.0 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I just think that if you completely cut out veggies and fruit (since on LCHF you can't really have fruit), you are missing out on a lot of fiber, vitamins and minerals. While the short term effects might not be bad, it's not good for you in the long run. If you are doing LCHF, you really need to eat at least some vegetables.
The vitamins and minerals can be found in animal products. Fiber? Not so much but it appears to be most beneficial when one is eating vegetation.
There really is no evidence that an animal based diet is bad for you, as far as I know. If you have some sort of study on it I'd love to see it.Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a few keto'ers in there that found they felt better and better the more they cut their veggies. they are now essentially carnivores and quite happy and healthy.
Seafood is good to include if you can. For plant matter, if you want it, how about olives, nuts, seeds, pickles, avocados, coconut or hemp and chia? Can you eat veggies if they are well fatted up? My husband is not a fan of rabbit food but he'll eat it, and enjoy it if I add lots of cheese, butter or oil. Tonight is a broccoli cream cheese casserole. He will only eat cooked veggies too.
You can have some fruit. Just keep it low GI if you are having more than a couple of bites. Berries are the lowest GI.
If you can't have veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. If you eat good quality eggs, meat, dairy and seafood, you will be fine.
I'm confused on.....:"plant matter" and the foods you listed above, all of which are fruits and grains, except for the pickle which is pickled cucumber.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
I love my vegetables, but I've never thought of blending them as sauces for casseroles and pasta I'll have to try that.
I also don't now what rabbit food is....when I was a kid, my rabbit ate rabbit food from the pet food store.No snark, legit question: how can it be texture if you dislike all of them? They don't all have the same texture.
Finally, this is what I was thinking. There are so many types of vegetables that it seems odd that a person doesn't like a few of them.
My discovery from last year is spaghetti squash, which can be made into some wonderful dishes, including deserts!
Plant matter... matter from plants. She doesn't like veggies and I've been slapped around here for calling things like nuts veggies in the past, so "plant matter".
And it's my husband, of moderate carbs, who calls vegetables "rabbit food". To be fair, we had rabbits and they ate the vegetables and fruits. They didn't eat the cooked veggies but my husband will. Rabbit food.1 -
You don't have to do LCHF to lose weight.
LCHF is just the latest fad like low fat was in the eighties.
Everything in moderation for health.
Low blood sugar / moodiness? Is that a medical term?
Have you been starving yourself trying to diet? You might just need to eat a bit more, and/or more often.2
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