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Thanks singingflutelady. I am new at this blog thing and I don't see a reply button.4
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Are you drinking enough water, protten intake and low carb, low sugar? These are key, but #1 is water water water!!!0
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Are you drinking enough water, protten intake and low carb, low sugar? These are key, but #1 is water water water!!!
I'd say getting enough protein is key- I struggled for a long time because I ate mostly carbs and way too little protein. I still lost weight from being in a calorie deficit but it was more muscle than fat and I had low energy & lots of hunger issues. Now that I adjusted my diet and eat 100 grams of protein every day I feel great - strong and energetic- and am losing body fat and not muscle.
Water is of corse very important but most people know that. But it seems most people especially women don't seem to realize the importance of protein, especially for weight loss.3 -
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Not being a food nor diet fanatic I don't understand the acronyms. Would I be correct in assuming that CICO stands for Calories In Calories Out?
As for Trixiegirl66's comments, I am thinking that it might be time for her to have a Snickers bar and relax a little. Gottaburnem said that she takes a snickers bar when she wants. Nothing to do with healthy eating, it just works for her.
By the way, what is SAD an acronym for?
"Standard American Diet". It's usually used in a pejorative sense by "clean eating" advocates in that they consider the SAD as sitting around in front of the television shoveling fast food, junk food and bags of sugar into one's mouth all day long.3 -
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I started MFP about two weeks ago and the first thing I noticed is that it is very similar to playing golf. By that I mean you have the pencil and you can put any score that you want on the card. With MFP, I find the same thing applies. If you don't write down everything because you don't like the way it looks, then you are only cheating yourself.
The second thing I have noticed is that people seem to go overboard on their food consumption. To cut out everything you like and try to supplement it with lentils and quinoa and rabbit food just, in my mind, doesn't work. You are gearing yourself for failure because eventually you will want ice cream, chocolate, beer and pizza.
I really like MFP because it lets me figure out my day's activities. As an example, yesterday, I went to meet friends at the Air Force Wing for a couple of beers. The beer at the wing is served in 20 oz mugs. I had two. Therefore, I put that in my daily allowance as 4 10 oz Coors Light beers and adjusted meals and my exercise regime to accommodate the change. I do the same for ice cream, pizza, chocolate and any other decadent food that I like.
In my humble opinion, there are no sacrifices to be made, only adjustments. I am losing one pound a week and have found that by consuming 10 glasses of water per day, walking for one hour at 3.5 mph and 30 minutes of circuit training, combined with breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner and snack, I am eating less but I am never hungry. I am also eating more fruit. I will be 69 in January, 6'1", 215 lbs when I started and my goal is to be 190 pounds. I am ex special forces, have had a hip replacement, multiple surgeries, and I receive 5 medical pensions. Sometimes, we just have to soldier on. By the way, losing 25 pounds is very daunting and I don't think I can do that, but I can lose 5 pounds 5 times. Its all about attitude and perspective.
Good luck with your weight loss.
P.S.
I don't know what age you are, but one thing I have learned. As we age, we can't do exercises designed for 20 year olds. Our bodies don't metabolize at the rate they did when we were young. Work to your own limits. Pulse rates for weight loss are maintained at a lower than fitness rate.
Congrats on figuring it out early in the game. You're going to make it all the way.7 -
Trixiegirl66 wrote: »Healthy living is based in fact not fantasy - sorry, but Big Macs and coke have NO place in an eating plan period. I double majored in journalism and nutrition at university, so with all due respect, you are very incorrect in your thinking regarding SAD being a cliche, or that I am somehow battling an "imaginary opponent."
And do be careful throwing around terms like orthorexic, for while I do not suffer from either anxiety or OCD eating related issues, many on this board do and your throwing the term around is both disrespectful and rude.
When you can prove that a 100 calorie serving of Snickers and a 100 calorie serving of avocado provide the same nutrients and fuel for the human body I will gladly listen to your argument on CICO. No false statements here - just truth that doesn't go down well with most not wanting to acknowledge the role food plays in health.
CICO is not nutrition. Nutrition is nutrition. CICO is energy balance. ALL food provides energy.
You obviously have no idea what CICO is, even though the information has been broken down in simple terms for you. It's like talking to a wall...12 -
Trixiegirl66 wrote: »I find it insane how many react with such defensiveness and outright anger, when I suggest that shelving the obsessive CICO mindset was the very reason behind my fat loss. And while chocolate and cheese puffs might fit into your caloric plan and not cause weight gain, make no mistake that your liver, kidneys and brain all take a hit by means of inflammation.
Sure, I could fit a litre of coke, cheetos and two Big Macs into a daily caloric plan, but God help my organs, mental capacity and overall looks from such an abusive and ignorant mindset. I have lived abroad and in the United States, and I can tell you, we in the U.S are literally dying from the inside out due to the nonsense of CICO.
And although I gained fifty pounds in my forties, I have no stretch marks, age spots or wrinkles at 50 - all of these positives I attribute directly to eating good fats, clean protein and tons of organic veggies and fruits - whether they fit into my caloric plan or not. And you are right, I am a ranter - but I am sick of seeing friends and family falling into ill health, because they buy into watching calories instead of reading labels.
if you dont have stretch marks that just means your body has good and a plentiful amount of elasticity ,nothing else. I have stretch marks due to gaining 30 lbs when I was a KID,due to medications I was taking(causing my appetite to go wild),I was active back then and everything and ate healthy.my mom had 5 of us and she has NO stretchmarks while all 5 of us did whether it was from carrying children or gaining weight.age spots can also be hereditary wrinkles again can be caused by different factors. I had NO wrinkles in my face until I lost as much weight as I did,now I have wrinkles. again Im sure thats due to not having a lot of elasticity4 -
Trixiegirl66 wrote: »I find it insane how many react with such defensiveness and outright anger, when I suggest that shelving the obsessive CICO mindset was the very reason behind my fat loss. And while chocolate and cheese puffs might fit into your caloric plan and not cause weight gain, make no mistake that your liver, kidneys and brain all take a hit by means of inflammation.
Sure, I could fit a litre of coke, cheetos and two Big Macs into a daily caloric plan, but God help my organs, mental capacity and overall looks from such an abusive and ignorant mindset. I have lived abroad and in the United States, and I can tell you, we in the U.S are literally dying from the inside out due to the nonsense of CICO.
And although I gained fifty pounds in my forties, I have no stretch marks, age spots or wrinkles at 50 - all of these positives I attribute directly to eating good fats, clean protein and tons of organic veggies and fruits - whether they fit into my caloric plan or not. And you are right, I am a ranter - but I am sick of seeing friends and family falling into ill health, because they buy into watching calories instead of reading labels.
I feel like whichever college/university you went to failed you on both of the topics you majored in.
A someone else said, taking CICO and extrapolating it to "just eat Big Macs and Snickers in your calorie goal and you'll be sweet" is being wilfully ignorant of what is actually being said. You know what's important to physical health? Mental health. You know what can be important to mental health? Indulging in the things you like now and gain. Including "eeevil sugar and carbs". That said, I don't really see what's wrong with soda, burgers and chocolate. They all have nutritional profiles that provide essential micro and macronutrients the body requires. To insist otherwise shows nutritional ignorance. Again, questioning the teaching you received during your degree.
But d'oh, I guess the handful of McChicken sandwiches I've had in my lifetime are making my chronic, hereditary, trauma triggered mental illnesses are really the culprits. If only I ate avocado and quinoa (organic!) every day I'd be cured.
And yes, that paragraph is sarcastic because it shows the strawman being used.12 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Trixiegirl66 wrote: »I find it insane how many react with such defensiveness and outright anger, when I suggest that shelving the obsessive CICO mindset was the very reason behind my fat loss. And while chocolate and cheese puffs might fit into your caloric plan and not cause weight gain, make no mistake that your liver, kidneys and brain all take a hit by means of inflammation.
Sure, I could fit a litre of coke, cheetos and two Big Macs into a daily caloric plan, but God help my organs, mental capacity and overall looks from such an abusive and ignorant mindset. I have lived abroad and in the United States, and I can tell you, we in the U.S are literally dying from the inside out due to the nonsense of CICO.
And although I gained fifty pounds in my forties, I have no stretch marks, age spots or wrinkles at 50 - all of these positives I attribute directly to eating good fats, clean protein and tons of organic veggies and fruits - whether they fit into my caloric plan or not. And you are right, I am a ranter - but I am sick of seeing friends and family falling into ill health, because they buy into watching calories instead of reading labels.
if you dont have stretch marks that just means your body has good and a plentiful amount of elasticity ,nothing else. I have stretch marks due to gaining 30 lbs when I was a KID,due to medications I was taking(causing my appetite to go wild),I was active back then and everything and ate healthy.my mom had 5 of us and she has NO stretchmarks while all 5 of us did whether it was from carrying children or gaining weight.age spots can also be hereditary wrinkles again can be caused by different factors. I had NO wrinkles in my face until I lost as much weight as I did,now I have wrinkles. again Im sure thats due to not having a lot of elasticity
I have stretch marks from when I grew breasts suddenly overnight during puberty.
I got no stretch marks from my first pregnancy, but did get them from my second because I carried differently and he was a bigger baby.
Genetics man, it's a lottery.
Oh, and I have no appreciable wrinkles at 54. And I eat Snickers bars and cookies.9 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Trixiegirl66 wrote: »I find it insane how many react with such defensiveness and outright anger, when I suggest that shelving the obsessive CICO mindset was the very reason behind my fat loss. And while chocolate and cheese puffs might fit into your caloric plan and not cause weight gain, make no mistake that your liver, kidneys and brain all take a hit by means of inflammation.
Sure, I could fit a litre of coke, cheetos and two Big Macs into a daily caloric plan, but God help my organs, mental capacity and overall looks from such an abusive and ignorant mindset. I have lived abroad and in the United States, and I can tell you, we in the U.S are literally dying from the inside out due to the nonsense of CICO.
And although I gained fifty pounds in my forties, I have no stretch marks, age spots or wrinkles at 50 - all of these positives I attribute directly to eating good fats, clean protein and tons of organic veggies and fruits - whether they fit into my caloric plan or not. And you are right, I am a ranter - but I am sick of seeing friends and family falling into ill health, because they buy into watching calories instead of reading labels.
if you dont have stretch marks that just means your body has good and a plentiful amount of elasticity ,nothing else. I have stretch marks due to gaining 30 lbs when I was a KID,due to medications I was taking(causing my appetite to go wild),I was active back then and everything and ate healthy.my mom had 5 of us and she has NO stretchmarks while all 5 of us did whether it was from carrying children or gaining weight.age spots can also be hereditary wrinkles again can be caused by different factors. I had NO wrinkles in my face until I lost as much weight as I did,now I have wrinkles. again Im sure thats due to not having a lot of elasticity
I have stretch marks from when I grew breasts suddenly overnight during puberty.
I got no stretch marks from my first pregnancy, but did get them from my second because I carried differently and he was a bigger baby.
Genetics man, it's a lottery.
Oh, and I have no appreciable wrinkles at 54. And I eat Snickers bars and cookies.
while stretchmarks they say are genetic if you dont have enough elasticity in your body you will get them. none of my grandmas had them,my mom doesnt have them. and me and my sisters all have them. for me prednisone at a young age caused me to gain too rapidly and thats how I got mine. they say if your mom doesnt have them you wont have them. thats a crock lol
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Trixiegirl66 wrote: »I find it insane how many react with such defensiveness and outright anger, when I suggest that shelving the obsessive CICO mindset was the very reason behind my fat loss. And while chocolate and cheese puffs might fit into your caloric plan and not cause weight gain, make no mistake that your liver, kidneys and brain all take a hit by means of inflammation.
Sure, I could fit a litre of coke, cheetos and two Big Macs into a daily caloric plan, but God help my organs, mental capacity and overall looks from such an abusive and ignorant mindset. I have lived abroad and in the United States, and I can tell you, we in the U.S are literally dying from the inside out due to the nonsense of CICO.
And although I gained fifty pounds in my forties, I have no stretch marks, age spots or wrinkles at 50 - all of these positives I attribute directly to eating good fats, clean protein and tons of organic veggies and fruits - whether they fit into my caloric plan or not. And you are right, I am a ranter - but I am sick of seeing friends and family falling into ill health, because they buy into watching calories instead of reading labels.
if you dont have stretch marks that just means your body has good and a plentiful amount of elasticity ,nothing else. I have stretch marks due to gaining 30 lbs when I was a KID,due to medications I was taking(causing my appetite to go wild),I was active back then and everything and ate healthy.my mom had 5 of us and she has NO stretchmarks while all 5 of us did whether it was from carrying children or gaining weight.age spots can also be hereditary wrinkles again can be caused by different factors. I had NO wrinkles in my face until I lost as much weight as I did,now I have wrinkles. again Im sure thats due to not having a lot of elasticity
I have stretch marks from when I grew breasts suddenly overnight during puberty.
I got no stretch marks from my first pregnancy, but did get them from my second because I carried differently and he was a bigger baby.
Genetics man, it's a lottery.
Oh, and I have no appreciable wrinkles at 54. And I eat Snickers bars and cookies.
while stretchmarks they say are genetic if you dont have enough elasticity in your body you will get them. none of my grandmas had them,my mom doesnt have them. and me and my sisters all have them. for me prednisone at a young age caused me to gain too rapidly and thats how I got mine. they say if your mom doesnt have them you wont have them. thats a crock lol
Yeah my mum doesn't really have any even though she's very overweight (possibly, she might not be any more, don't know, we don't speak.........). I, on the other hand, have them everywhere and most of them I got in my early teens. I stopped being a competitive gymnast training 5 days a week, hit puberty, growth no longer stunted with all energy going to training and I shot up and out pretty quickly! I didn't get any new stretch marks until I was at my very highest weight and that was a few on my tummy.
So there's a few factors to stretch marks. "Clean" eating ain't one of them.4 -
Trixiegirl66 wrote: »Here is the funny thing about the bully herd mentality and string of nasty comments - I couldn't care less about your ill informed opinions or character attacks. After reading the many rants, I wondered if blood sugar swings from all the "occasional" unhealthy treats you guys pass off as moderation were behind the rudeness.
I showed my daughter the string of comments and she laughed, saying "it is clear that mean girls grow into vicious women with jealous streaks." After all, my open food diary shows I indulge in treats regularly, and yet I am losing fat and increasing muscle mass because I know that a Big Mac and soda are not treats.
Please though, carry on with your If It Fits Your Macros logic, and watch where your body lands as it ages. After all, we are what we eat, and for this knowledge I am very grateful.
But all that is not necessary. However you get into a deficit is what counts. I eat Big Macs once in awhile, I'm as healthy as ever. Some go way overboard with eating only foods they think are healthy which is flirting with orthorexia. That is no way to live. You only get one shot at life, live it to the fullest.
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Trixiegirl66 wrote: »Here is the funny thing about the bully herd mentality and string of nasty comments - I couldn't care less about your ill informed opinions or character attacks. After reading the many rants, I wondered if blood sugar swings from all the "occasional" unhealthy treats you guys pass off as moderation were behind the rudeness.
I showed my daughter the string of comments and she laughed, saying "it is clear that mean girls grow into vicious women with jealous streaks." After all, my open food diary shows I indulge in treats regularly, and yet I am losing fat and increasing muscle mass because I know that a Big Mac and soda are not treats.
Please though, carry on with your If It Fits Your Macros logic, and watch where your body lands as it ages. After all, we are what we eat, and for this knowledge I am very grateful.
So seriously what's wrong with a big Mac that makes it exceedingly unhealthy?8 -
singingflutelady wrote: »Trixiegirl66 wrote: »Here is the funny thing about the bully herd mentality and string of nasty comments - I couldn't care less about your ill informed opinions or character attacks. After reading the many rants, I wondered if blood sugar swings from all the "occasional" unhealthy treats you guys pass off as moderation were behind the rudeness.
I showed my daughter the string of comments and she laughed, saying "it is clear that mean girls grow into vicious women with jealous streaks." After all, my open food diary shows I indulge in treats regularly, and yet I am losing fat and increasing muscle mass because I know that a Big Mac and soda are not treats.
Please though, carry on with your If It Fits Your Macros logic, and watch where your body lands as it ages. After all, we are what we eat, and for this knowledge I am very grateful.
So seriously what's wrong with a big Mac that makes it exceedingly unhealthy?
It hits all the macros! I love them!5 -
. Wow super unhealthy. How can anyone fit 560 calories into your day.
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Trixiegirl66 wrote: »Here is the funny thing about the bully herd mentality and string of nasty comments - I couldn't care less about your ill informed opinions or character attacks. After reading the many rants, I wondered if blood sugar swings from all the "occasional" unhealthy treats you guys pass off as moderation were behind the rudeness.
I showed my daughter the string of comments and she laughed, saying "it is clear that mean girls grow into vicious women with jealous streaks." After all, my open food diary shows I indulge in treats regularly, and yet I am losing fat and increasing muscle mass because I know that a Big Mac and soda are not treats.
Please though, carry on with your If It Fits Your Macros logic, and watch where your body lands as it ages. After all, we are what we eat, and for this knowledge I am very grateful.
so what you are saying then is because some dont eat like you do and that most dont agree with what you say because CICO worked for them and helped then improve health issues that they bullies/mean girls? blood sugar swings from eating unhealthy treats? nope cant say that I have had any blood sugar swings. also I have been able to get off many of my meds just by losing weight,I didnt see where anyone had any nasty comments just because they like to eat big macs doesnt mean they arent healthy. you choose your way of eating and everyone will choose theirs,but you cannot say they are wrong and that just because you eat your way and have no stretch marks,wrinkles,etc. most of those things are genetic and caused by good elasticity you either have them/ will get them or you wont.I dont see any vicious or jealous women here. I think you are seeing what you want to see,Im not attacking you either. but if you see it that way then so be it.10
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