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  • stevehenderson776
    stevehenderson776 Posts: 324 Member
    There aren't as many peanuts in Snickers bars nowadays.
  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,456 Member
    Looking forward to meeting my new baby niece born last night.

    Congratulations uncle :)
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I don't have a bathroom right now. Does that count?
  • The_Canadian_Apex
    The_Canadian_Apex Posts: 572 Member
    Looking forward to meeting my new baby niece born last night.

    Congratulations uncle :)

    Thank you 😊
  • The_Canadian_Apex
    The_Canadian_Apex Posts: 572 Member
    Looking forward to meeting my new baby niece born last night.

    Congratulations M

    Thanks Raych 😊
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,741 Member
    Oh lord, I really need to clean and do laundry and grocery shop. And I hate it.

    I need my kids to help, but I still need to harass them to get it done. And I don't like that.

    Why can't someone else be the adult in this home? 😂😭

    Keep harassing teaching them. They and everyone else in their future lives will be better off. One person shouldn't do it all when others benefit.
  • Yoshiboobs
    Yoshiboobs Posts: 1,090 Member
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  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,677 Member
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    Oh lord, I really need to clean and do laundry and grocery shop. And I hate it.

    I need my kids to help, but I still need to harass them to get it done. And I don't like that.

    Why can't someone else be the adult in this home? 😂😭

    Keep harassing teaching them. They and everyone else in their future lives will be better off. One person shouldn't do it all when others benefit.

    Yes, it's a never ending task. They've been pretty good, in general. But they still would much rather game and chat their friends than work. (can't blame them! Haha)
  • CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    That’s pretty hot
  • CacoEther
    CacoEther Posts: 2,465 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    That’s pretty hot

    I..

    I promise this is unironic 🤦🏼‍♀️

    don’t get which part could possibly be hot 😅
  • stevehenderson776
    stevehenderson776 Posts: 324 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth?

    I'm going to start writing my penis length as tip to sea level I think. Maybe I'll move to Denver.
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,677 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️
  • CacoEther
    CacoEther Posts: 2,465 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth?

    I'm going to start writing my penis length as tip to sea level I think. Maybe I'll move to Denver.

    My god you’re a genius!
  • CacoEther
    CacoEther Posts: 2,465 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️

    So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌
  • Revolu7
    Revolu7 Posts: 1,035 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    This is the exactly what i feel leads to paralysis by analysis syndrome. Nothing is a given, but sometimes people will ask questions until they finally get an answer along the lines of their own thinking. Jump out of an airplane....with a parachute of course 😉.....the question when you jump is will i live or will i die. There will be nothing else to question. Your answer will be given when you land. Primal fear, and decision making is a cure for what ails you. 😉
  • CacoEther
    CacoEther Posts: 2,465 Member
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
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    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    This is the exactly what i feel leads to paralysis by analysis syndrome. Nothing is a given, but sometimes people will ask questions until they finally get an answer along the lines of their own thinking. Jump out of an airplane....with a parachute of course 😉.....the question when you jump is will i live or will i die. There will be nothing else to question. Your answer will be given when you land. Primal fear, and decision making is a cure for what ails you. 😉

    You’re absolutely right. Analysis paralysis and the ensuing anxiety have crippled me my whole adult life
  • Vikka_V
    Vikka_V Posts: 9,563 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    I love your brain

    I call myself a "fence dweller" b/c I see so many different angles - and can justify most even if it isn't my first thought.
    Am def literal, to a fault I feel - like I have to look up words routinely

    ...understanding what people mean is not as simple as understanding the language, nuance, context, environment...and rando stuff

    But betcha I'm worse to watch a movie with! - I have to take random breaks to like dust a table or fold or do more laundry
    ...and I'm usually (almost always a bit delayed) late to get a joke *too much thinking*
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,677 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️

    So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌

    Oh God, I get it more than you realize. When you can see all sides, it's impossible and anxiety inducing trying to pick one.

    When you can empathize and understand someone's motivations, even if you disagree with them, it can be impossible to stand your ground.

    I test software for a living. My life is all about understanding and analyzing the permutations and combinations and trying to assess and mitigate the risk to each.
  • CacoEther
    CacoEther Posts: 2,465 Member
    CacoEther wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    CacoEther wrote: »
    Revolu7 wrote: »
    MaltedTea wrote: »
    Robbers must be underwhelmed by organized minimalists. There's so little to rummage through and what little there is would be in curated and labeled fabric boxes 🤷🏿‍♀️

    Im somewhat cynical of those claiming to be minimalists.

    How so?

    Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.

    I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible

    Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.

    Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person

    Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?

    Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.

    This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?

    I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.

    Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things

    I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.

    I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉

    I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)

    For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)

    I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.

    It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean

    I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️

    So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌

    Oh God, I get it more than you realize. When you can see all sides, it's impossible and anxiety inducing trying to pick one.

    When you can empathize and understand someone's motivations, even if you disagree with them, it can be impossible to stand your ground.

    I test software for a living. My life is all about understanding and analyzing the permutations and combinations and trying to assess and mitigate the risk to each.

    This makes me sweaty 😂
  • Vikka_V
    Vikka_V Posts: 9,563 Member
    Thank-you
    to everyone here who is kind to me

    it helps - a lot!

    I wish you all peace, in your minds and in life in general

    ...rolling into the x-mas -week

    ...just 2 weeks short of a *kitten* you 2020!

    New years...

    I'm hoping at some point I won't have to live like I'm in a post apocalyptic waste land - that requires breathing filters and stuff...but, ya prob not for a while?


    You guys remember 2019?...We had smiles (and frowns) that could be seen and stuff - 'the good old days'?!





  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,456 Member
    Vikka_V wrote: »
    Thank-you
    to everyone here who is kind to me

    it helps - a lot!

    I wish you all peace, in your minds and in life in general

    ...rolling into the x-mas -week

    ...just 2 weeks short of a *kitten* you 2020!

    New years...

    I'm hoping at some point I won't have to live like I'm in a post apocalyptic waste land - that requires breathing filters and stuff...but, ya prob not for a while?


    You guys remember 2019?...We had smiles (and frowns) that could be seen and stuff - 'the good old days'?!





    Big squishy warm hugs to you 🤗
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    WWYD??
    Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. :( So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. :) Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
    What to do, what to do?

    Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. :) Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
    Thank you!!!
  • KickassAmazon76
    KickassAmazon76 Posts: 4,677 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    WWYD??
    Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. :( So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. :) Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
    What to do, what to do?

    Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. :) Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
    Thank you!!!

    If you can swing 4, I think it's super awesome. But if not, then I'd go with 2. Make the cheesecake, and when they come over, invite them to have a break and enjoy a piece (or take it home).