What's on your mind?
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I'm confused reading things.0
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Thinking about organizing happy hours at work.0
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4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »CanesGalactica wrote: »CanesGalactica wrote: »I wish that MFP were operated like a lot of open forum sites where you were allowed to curse, have dissenting opinions and were openly allowed to discuss contentious topics (as long as it remained civil). I understand why they've taken away the option to discuss things like politics/religion/etc., but I think some of the folks here would be super interesting to have discussions with on those topics.
Hence why I don't just find a different forum for that avenue.. I rather like the people here, thank you.
We're allowed to do that. I do it all the time. If you're willing to trade in popularity for voicing an opinion that clashes with the commonly held opinions of Chit Chat and other forums at MFP, you're allowed to do it civilly. And you'll also be subjected to passive aggressive swipes in the Vague thread for it too.
Contentious topics (some even bordering on religion and politics) are allowed to be discussed in the Debate section. But you gotta be hardcore, unafraid of confrontation and back up your stuff. Also, they're not funny there but you're allowed to be funny if you want to lighten it up over there.
Maybe you like the people here precisely because you don't have contentious, profanity laced discussions with them in which you voice dissenting opinions. That's not rhetoric, I mean it for real.
Isn't MFP passive aggressive enough with the "Woo" option and other thread swipes without really needing it to be necessary in the Vague thread?
As for the people here, no.. I adamantly believe that some of you could be really fun, engaging and civil minded in a debate. Not all, but a good amount of you._barefoot_ wrote: »I come on here to get away from the real world so I am glad they have rules on heavy topics .
Some of us have very little contact with the outside world on a regular basis, so I come here to actually talk with people. My other venues have all dried up and moving constantly means I never have time to make new connections with people IRL.
New Group: Exploring the universe with CanesGalactica. Sounds perfect
I should do this and then watch it be a group of one, lol.CanesGalactica wrote: »CanesGalactica wrote: »I wish that MFP were operated like a lot of open forum sites where you were allowed to curse, have dissenting opinions and were openly allowed to discuss contentious topics (as long as it remained civil). I understand why they've taken away the option to discuss things like politics/religion/etc., but I think some of the folks here would be super interesting to have discussions with on those topics.
Hence why I don't just find a different forum for that avenue.. I rather like the people here, thank you.
We're allowed to do that. I do it all the time. If you're willing to trade in popularity for voicing an opinion that clashes with the commonly held opinions of Chit Chat and other forums at MFP, you're allowed to do it civilly. And you'll also be subjected to passive aggressive swipes in the Vague thread for it too.
Contentious topics (some even bordering on religion and politics) are allowed to be discussed in the Debate section. But you gotta be hardcore, unafraid of confrontation and back up your stuff. Also, they're not funny there but you're allowed to be funny if you want to lighten it up over there.
Maybe you like the people here precisely because you don't have contentious, profanity laced discussions with them in which you voice dissenting opinions. That's not rhetoric, I mean it for real.
Isn't MFP passive aggressive enough with the "Woo" option and other thread swipes without really needing it to be necessary in the Vague thread?
As for the people here, no.. I adamantly believe that some of you could be really fun, engaging and civil minded in a debate. Not all, but a good amount of you.
Then debate away. It's allowed. You said it wasn't. Maybe lurk in the debate section for a bit to get the flavor of it first.
If you prefer communication to be direct within the guidelines of civility, rather than passive, really, you can take the initiative - even here in Chit Chat.
The Vague thread and the woo button aren't the only fertile ground for passive hints and swipes. There's the I Confess thread and the What's on Your Mind threads too. I've been passive aggressive on all those threads myself because sometimes I just can't be civil and I know it. I'm trying to stay out of MFP jail of course, like everybody else.
What topics would interest you for debate or what subjects would you be most interested in posting very direct opinions about?
Well, I do participate in the threads you are mentioning from time to time, but I'm not interested in being passively snarky to people I disagree with. I can silently roll my eyes and move on most of the time.
For the debate topics here, either I am missing the really good threads or there just aren't any topics I want to debate on? A few of the medical ones that pop up interest me, but more as a lurker to glean information as people post. I don't mind topics in which the debate is either purely conjecture or opinion (being no facts to really debate), but I suppose I would like to see some more relevant topics about political goings on (anywhere, not just in the U.S.). I've been enjoying some of the
topics, but they seem to either get shut down quickly or the original poster starts and runs (at least stay around so we can have a row with you!)
P.S. This MFP jail you all mention kind of freaks me out. What the hell did you people do to get put in there in the first place?1 -
4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »CanesGalactica wrote: »CanesGalactica wrote: »I wish that MFP were operated like a lot of open forum sites where you were allowed to curse, have dissenting opinions and were openly allowed to discuss contentious topics (as long as it remained civil). I understand why they've taken away the option to discuss things like politics/religion/etc., but I think some of the folks here would be super interesting to have discussions with on those topics.
Hence why I don't just find a different forum for that avenue.. I rather like the people here, thank you.
We're allowed to do that. I do it all the time. If you're willing to trade in popularity for voicing an opinion that clashes with the commonly held opinions of Chit Chat and other forums at MFP, you're allowed to do it civilly. And you'll also be subjected to passive aggressive swipes in the Vague thread for it too.
Contentious topics (some even bordering on religion and politics) are allowed to be discussed in the Debate section. But you gotta be hardcore, unafraid of confrontation and back up your stuff. Also, they're not funny there but you're allowed to be funny if you want to lighten it up over there.
Maybe you like the people here precisely because you don't have contentious, profanity laced discussions with them in which you voice dissenting opinions. That's not rhetoric, I mean it for real.
Isn't MFP passive aggressive enough with the "Woo" option and other thread swipes without really needing it to be necessary in the Vague thread?
As for the people here, no.. I adamantly believe that some of you could be really fun, engaging and civil minded in a debate. Not all, but a good amount of you.
Then debate away. It's allowed. You said it wasn't. Maybe lurk in the debate section for a bit to get the flavor of it first.
If you prefer communication to be direct within the guidelines of civility, rather than passive, really, you can take the initiative - even here in Chit Chat.
The Vague thread and the woo button aren't the only fertile ground for passive hints and swipes. There's the I Confess thread and the What's on Your Mind threads too. I've been passive aggressive on all those threads myself because sometimes I just can't be civil and I know it. I'm trying to stay out of MFP jail of course, like everybody else.
What topics would interest you for debate or what subjects would you be most interested in posting very direct opinions about?
I think she is specifically talking about a religious or political based debates not being allowed.
Eh, more like any topic that one could debate with facts but still have opinions on. As mentioned before, some of the medical/science topics intrigue me, but more from an intellectual perspective as opposed to something I feel the need to argue for/against. I'm not here to tramp on anyone's religion (or lack thereof). Not my thing, really.1 -
Coupon codes make me happy. No coupon codes make me agitated.0
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I feel like I miss a lot here, even tho I might be present it just goes way over my head4
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UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Clever_User_Name wrote: »UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Today is surely a sad day for mfp.
What happened?
Noah and Tanya are departing from the masses
Aw, Noah created my favorite thread here & Tanya, was hilarious!
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@newmeadow, I am ok with it if people stay civil. Will have to shut it down if people cant. I will check with other mods before you proceed. I would suggest just starting a new thread if you want to debate it, not really due to a rule but more you are going to have random things on people's mind thrown in all over the place. Personally I would just find that annoying if I was trying to follow the debate 0
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I wonder if marching on a capital has ever really done anything. Like some guy in a powdered wig finally comes out and says "You win. I just drafted this document that's going to change everything!"1
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Nom nom.
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lavinia_whateley_goals wrote: »i never know what’s happening around here
We should carpool.0 -
Thinking about how I've been doing everything right- working out 3-5 days a week which includes cardio, HIIT, and weight lifting. On a calorie deficit- eating 1,200 cals, which is high protein, moderate fat, and low carb. And I've only lost weight in my thighs and boobs. I just want a flat stomach before I go on vacation. I just wanna rock a bikini without being insecure of my flabby tummy. I've already read the "so you want a nice stomach" post and I do all that stuff. I just feel like it's never going to happen for me...
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well FWIW if anyone wants to start that debate mods seem to agree, it if stays civil carry on. If it doesn't we will shut it down.
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Thinking about how I've been doing everything right- working out 3-5 days a week which includes cardio, HIIT, and weight lifting. On a calorie deficit- eating 1,200 cals, which is high protein, moderate fat, and low carb. And I've only lost weight in my thighs and boobs. I just want a flat stomach before I go on vacation. I just wanna rock a bikini without being insecure of my flabby tummy. I've already read the "so you want a nice stomach" post and I do all that stuff. I just feel like it's never going to happen for me...
Not with that attitude
Sounds like you're doing great. Stick with it.0 -
WorkerDrone83 wrote: »Thinking about how I've been doing everything right- working out 3-5 days a week which includes cardio, HIIT, and weight lifting. On a calorie deficit- eating 1,200 cals, which is high protein, moderate fat, and low carb. And I've only lost weight in my thighs and boobs. I just want a flat stomach before I go on vacation. I just wanna rock a bikini without being insecure of my flabby tummy. I've already read the "so you want a nice stomach" post and I do all that stuff. I just feel like it's never going to happen for me...
Not with that attitude
Sounds like you're doing great. Stick with it.
Thank you, I've just been at this for months and still nothing
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TeacupsAndToning wrote: »WorkerDrone83 wrote: »I wonder if marching on a capital has ever really done anything. Like some guy in a powdered wig finally comes out and says "You win. I just drafted this document that's going to change everything!"
I think there have been more than a few marches that have forced governments to make a change
They seem to only bring attention to matters, which in turn leads to reform. In most of the examples I've looked up, the change can be years away. I wonder if the political pressure from key people is that much more impactful than a mass demonstration.0 -
TeacupsAndToning wrote: »WorkerDrone83 wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »WorkerDrone83 wrote: »I wonder if marching on a capital has ever really done anything. Like some guy in a powdered wig finally comes out and says "You win. I just drafted this document that's going to change everything!"
I think there have been more than a few marches that have forced governments to make a change
They seem to only bring attention to matters, which in turn leads to reform. In most of the examples I've looked up, the change can be years away. I wonder if the political pressure from key people is that much more impactful than a mass demonstration.
But even if it takes a while - because it can, things generally have to be proposed and then voted on and that can take months - then the marching did what it set out to do.
There's gotta be a less obnoxious way to bring attention to things or to apply political pressure. Especially things that are already in the national and world spotlight.0 -
WorkerDrone83 wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »WorkerDrone83 wrote: »I wonder if marching on a capital has ever really done anything. Like some guy in a powdered wig finally comes out and says "You win. I just drafted this document that's going to change everything!"
I think there have been more than a few marches that have forced governments to make a change
They seem to only bring attention to matters, which in turn leads to reform. In most of the examples I've looked up, the change can be years away. I wonder if the political pressure from key people is that much more impactful than a mass demonstration.
It's lobbyists.0 -
Thank you and it was it's been a pleasure talking to you on this thread. I don't think I have enough clout to pull off initiating a successful thread in Chit Chat these days. When I critique the culture here, I think it's off putting to people and I get that I annoy people and make them feel criticized, which no one likes. Camille Paglia does it infinitely better than I do - with better credentials - and she's a woman I admire the most. I wish she'd come here with a fake name and lay waste to MFP. She'd be banned within 6 hours.
I've never known anyone to care who starts a thread, only if it's fun or not.0
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