Culking Bishes!!! Winter2016 / Spring 2017
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I forgot to mentioned- I started doing Kortney Olsens leg mass program- I'm going to drop down to like 2000 Calories- maybe start including some cardio. I actually noticed last night I felt noticeably leaner- which was odd- but I know my food was off for a day or two.
So the hard press to the finish line to keep calories up continues- but I can tell my body is ready to start dropping weight like crazy- so I'll just go to 2K- and see how much I can lose immediately and go for 3-4 weeks on the leg mass program and see what happens. I have to add in crazy cardio for my certification in July so I'll start dropping a lot with that I suspect.0 -
I forgot to mentioned- I started doing Kortney Olsens leg mass program- I'm going to drop down to like 2000 Calories- maybe start including some cardio. I actually noticed last night I felt noticeably leaner- which was odd- but I know my food was off for a day or two.
So the hard press to the finish line to keep calories up continues- but I can tell my body is ready to start dropping weight like crazy- so I'll just go to 2K- and see how much I can lose immediately and go for 3-4 weeks on the leg mass program and see what happens. I have to add in crazy cardio for my certification in July so I'll start dropping a lot with that I suspect.
I'll be curious to hear if you think the program is worth the money.0 -
I forgot to mentioned- I started doing Kortney Olsens leg mass program- I'm going to drop down to like 2000 Calories- maybe start including some cardio. I actually noticed last night I felt noticeably leaner- which was odd- but I know my food was off for a day or two.
So the hard press to the finish line to keep calories up continues- but I can tell my body is ready to start dropping weight like crazy- so I'll just go to 2K- and see how much I can lose immediately and go for 3-4 weeks on the leg mass program and see what happens. I have to add in crazy cardio for my certification in July so I'll start dropping a lot with that I suspect.
I'll be curious to hear if you think the program is worth the money.
I got it at a steep discount- I think I only paid 60 or 70$ I think.
there is nothing that's like crazy new. Cyclist squats are new to me- but it's just the organization and timing that's new.
You also get full time support in an on line group- and direct access to help of the guy who wrote the program with her.
So- useful- it's only 4 weeks? and 2 days a week- so I'm filling in the rest- they HAVE released "body parts" programs- but I can't afford them right now and don't really care to much. But I am going to tape my quads and do some pictures this week and see what it looks like.
couple people raved about the big difference- but I don't really think I'm going to see a massive transformation in 4 weeks. I think it'll be a nice filler block for me.0 -
I forgot to mentioned- I started doing Kortney Olsens leg mass program- I'm going to drop down to like 2000 Calories- maybe start including some cardio. I actually noticed last night I felt noticeably leaner- which was odd- but I know my food was off for a day or two.
So the hard press to the finish line to keep calories up continues- but I can tell my body is ready to start dropping weight like crazy- so I'll just go to 2K- and see how much I can lose immediately and go for 3-4 weeks on the leg mass program and see what happens. I have to add in crazy cardio for my certification in July so I'll start dropping a lot with that I suspect.
I'll be curious to hear if you think the program is worth the money.
I got it at a steep discount- I think I only paid 60 or 70$ I think.
there is nothing that's like crazy new. Cyclist squats are new to me- but it's just the organization and timing that's new.
You also get full time support in an on line group- and direct access to help of the guy who wrote the program with her.
So- useful- it's only 4 weeks? and 2 days a week- so I'm filling in the rest- they HAVE released "body parts" programs- but I can't afford them right now and don't really care to much. But I am going to tape my quads and do some pictures this week and see what it looks like.
couple people raved about the big difference- but I don't really think I'm going to see a massive transformation in 4 weeks. I think it'll be a nice filler block for me.
Meh, I'm not sure there is anything crazy new any more (that's effective). Sometimes just changing things up can give me an energy boost/increased excitement.1 -
I wasn't like "OMG OVERWHELMED" but it was hard to turn down at such a discounted price- so I bought it- if you can get it on sale- why not.
Also- someone bought coffee/nut M and M's this afternoon.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS- eating them all thinking about you all- especially you @Gallowmere19840 -
I wasn't like "OMG OVERWHELMED" but it was hard to turn down at such a discounted price- so I bought it- if you can get it on sale- why not.
Also- someone bought coffee/nut M and M's this afternoon.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS- eating them all thinking about you all- especially you @Gallowmere1984
Jealous...about both the discounted price AND the M&Ms. Did any of you see that resurrected thread the other day about ice cream bread? One pint of melted ice cream (any kind as long as it's full fat) and 1.5 cups of self rising flour. Mix and bake and it's supposed to come out the consistency of bread. Making two tonight for staff meeting tomorrow morning. I just lied. I'm making three...one for home to try tonight.3 -
I've had ice cream bread and the coffee nut m&ms. I like both, but different flavors of ice cream work better than others. While I do like the coffee nut, I'm still partial to the peanut.1
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DancingMoosie wrote: »I've had ice cream bread and the coffee nut m&ms. I like both, but different flavors of ice cream work better than others. While I do like the coffee nut, I'm still partial to the peanut.
Okay, so it DOES work...I was wondering. I planned on using Coffee Chip and Cinnamon Bun ice cream for tomorrow and then let the girls pick out a flavor they want to try for tonight.0 -
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I am cutting on 1450-1500 calories for as long as I can stand it. I am hoping to make it through next week! Cutting at 1650-1700 has been much more comfortable and substainable for me. I do not have a lot to lose since I only gained about 7 lbs. - I am really hoping this doesn't take longer than 6-8 weeks. If it looks like it is I am probably going to have a maintainance break. I do not want to get to a point where my energy levels are really low and my activity level and TDEE drop because of it.
I have no real idea what my TDEE is anymore! I got really sloppy towards the end and was not keeping track of my calories very well. The scale was going up so I wasn't worried about it.
I am also going to keep training the same for as long as I can. I imagine at some point the last set will become very difficult to complete. I might just lower the number of reps in the last set when I hit that point.0 -
I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?0
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I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
I would say you'd be better off just to recomp and skip the bulk if you don't want to cut. Unless you don't mind having the extra post bulk fluff for a long time...
Depends on your stats and how hard you bulk I guess.0 -
I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
Yup it is definitely possible. My first bulk I was pretty lean so I wanted to put on some good weight, and after I didn't have very much fat to lose, so I started to recomp. I eventually did a mini-cut before a vacation but if I had more time I probably would have stayed at maintenance.0 -
I did recomp, bulk, maintenance, bulk...now cutting. Recomp took about 2 years...then bulked/maintenance/bulk for a year. I'm planning on the cut lasting 6 weeks and then bulking again...then probably cut.
There's no reason that you can't bulk and then recomp. The way I did mine was based around training for a pl competition.0 -
I wasn't like "OMG OVERWHELMED" but it was hard to turn down at such a discounted price- so I bought it- if you can get it on sale- why not.
Also- someone bought coffee/nut M and M's this afternoon.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS- eating them all thinking about you all- especially you @Gallowmere1984
Jealous...about both the discounted price AND the M&Ms. Did any of you see that resurrected thread the other day about ice cream bread? One pint of melted ice cream (any kind as long as it's full fat) and 1.5 cups of self rising flour. Mix and bake and it's supposed to come out the consistency of bread. Making two tonight for staff meeting tomorrow morning. I just lied. I'm making three...one for home to try tonight.
what is the point of this ice cream bread? what does it even taste like?0 -
I wasn't like "OMG OVERWHELMED" but it was hard to turn down at such a discounted price- so I bought it- if you can get it on sale- why not.
Also- someone bought coffee/nut M and M's this afternoon.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS- eating them all thinking about you all- especially you @Gallowmere1984
Jealous...about both the discounted price AND the M&Ms. Did any of you see that resurrected thread the other day about ice cream bread? One pint of melted ice cream (any kind as long as it's full fat) and 1.5 cups of self rising flour. Mix and bake and it's supposed to come out the consistency of bread. Making two tonight for staff meeting tomorrow morning. I just lied. I'm making three...one for home to try tonight.
what is the point of this ice cream bread? what does it even taste like?
I've decided it tastes like scones. The Ben and Jerry's Cinnamon Bun went quick, the Java Chip and Peanut Butter Cup are going more slowly.1 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
I would say you'd be better off just to recomp and skip the bulk if you don't want to cut. Unless you don't mind having the extra post bulk fluff for a long time...
Depends on your stats and how hard you bulk I guess.I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
Yup it is definitely possible. My first bulk I was pretty lean so I wanted to put on some good weight, and after I didn't have very much fat to lose, so I started to recomp. I eventually did a mini-cut before a vacation but if I had more time I probably would have stayed at maintenance.deputy_randolph wrote: »I did recomp, bulk, maintenance, bulk...now cutting. Recomp took about 2 years...then bulked/maintenance/bulk for a year. I'm planning on the cut lasting 6 weeks and then bulking again...then probably cut.
There's no reason that you can't bulk and then recomp. The way I did mine was based around training for a pl competition.
Thank you for your responses! I am severely underweight right now, so my focus is to gain weight and build muscle first. I just wanted to get an idea of what my options are once I reach my ideal weight (fingers crossed). The idea of cutting kind of scares me as I lose weight easily (health issues), but I will face that when the time comes.0 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
I would say you'd be better off just to recomp and skip the bulk if you don't want to cut. Unless you don't mind having the extra post bulk fluff for a long time...
Depends on your stats and how hard you bulk I guess.I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
Yup it is definitely possible. My first bulk I was pretty lean so I wanted to put on some good weight, and after I didn't have very much fat to lose, so I started to recomp. I eventually did a mini-cut before a vacation but if I had more time I probably would have stayed at maintenance.deputy_randolph wrote: »I did recomp, bulk, maintenance, bulk...now cutting. Recomp took about 2 years...then bulked/maintenance/bulk for a year. I'm planning on the cut lasting 6 weeks and then bulking again...then probably cut.
There's no reason that you can't bulk and then recomp. The way I did mine was based around training for a pl competition.
Thank you for your responses! I am severely underweight right now, so my focus is to gain weight and build muscle first. I just wanted to get an idea of what my options are once I reach my ideal weight (fingers crossed). The idea of cutting kind of scares me as I lose weight easily (health issues), but I will face that when the time comes.
Ah, well knowing you're underweight makes a difference in my answer! You'd definitely want to bulk first, then switch to maintenance when you're ready.
I'm forever over bulked, so that's where my mind tends to go haha. Sounds like the other ladies can relate to your situation and it worked well for them!
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TresaAswegan wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
I would say you'd be better off just to recomp and skip the bulk if you don't want to cut. Unless you don't mind having the extra post bulk fluff for a long time...
Depends on your stats and how hard you bulk I guess.I haven't started lifting yet, but I am curious, can you bulk and then recomp instead of cut?
Yup it is definitely possible. My first bulk I was pretty lean so I wanted to put on some good weight, and after I didn't have very much fat to lose, so I started to recomp. I eventually did a mini-cut before a vacation but if I had more time I probably would have stayed at maintenance.deputy_randolph wrote: »I did recomp, bulk, maintenance, bulk...now cutting. Recomp took about 2 years...then bulked/maintenance/bulk for a year. I'm planning on the cut lasting 6 weeks and then bulking again...then probably cut.
There's no reason that you can't bulk and then recomp. The way I did mine was based around training for a pl competition.
Thank you for your responses! I am severely underweight right now, so my focus is to gain weight and build muscle first. I just wanted to get an idea of what my options are once I reach my ideal weight (fingers crossed). The idea of cutting kind of scares me as I lose weight easily (health issues), but I will face that when the time comes.
Ah, well knowing you're underweight makes a difference in my answer! You'd definitely want to bulk first, then switch to maintenance when you're ready.
I'm forever over bulked, so that's where my mind tends to go haha. Sounds like the other ladies can relate to your situation and it worked well for them!
Your profile pic makes you freaking awesome, so I would listen to you too haha! 1 -
When your cut is going so well, that you think you might have broken how time works:
At this rate, I'll be able to be back into a lean bulk before the end of April. Awww yeah.
Strength is maintaining at 100%, and I'm still actually hitting PRs in some areas. I'm actually surprised that my energy hasn't decreased much at all, and my BBT is holding strong at 99.5.5 -
HA- 'lost al time"
cutting down to 165? that's lean. but you're making great progress! I love it.0 -
HA- 'lost al time"
cutting down to 165? that's lean. but you're making great progress! I love it.
I'll make that call once I see how I look on Wednesday, after my post-RFL refeed on Tuesday. I know I'll be running at least two weeks of maintenance-10% to balance hormones, but after that, if I'm not where I want to be, I'll run another two week hellcut.1 -
So- I officially started the last weekend in October/First of November.
I'm having a bit of an interesting transition period as I just got married- so meal prep and trying to get our house settled with the hubs in it is hard- I'm finding I'm constantly under eating (horrors)- but it's getting settled down.
I am essentially reversing out of my 1600-1700- calorie goal and the goal has currently been 1900-2000 calories for the last two weeks- I may hang here for another week- trying to go long and steady this bought.
Starting weight is approximately 165- (I need a new digital scale)
End Goal is 190
Measurements pending.
Bulking cycle is planned Nov- April.
Main goal is size this year not strength.
Programing- is a 3 day hypertrophy split- lots of whole body with heavy lean on push/pull and sets of 12-15.
I'm pretty much doing a *kitten* job of making this scientific at all this year- but we shall see- I need a weekend to sit down and figure out where I am- size wise- and take some pictures before I start packing it on.
So I want to bulk. I originally was planning the same type of time frame just like you, however I'm starting to realize that in the world of bodybuilding slow and steady wins the race. If you try to gain 25 lbs in the time frame you want it's not really enough time. Basically if bulk until April and then cut for summer, you'll simply just end up right where you started, which is kind of what happened to me. Some of the articles I read said the same thing. If you take an entire year to bulk and slowly gain the weight, you can then maintain for awhile and then start slowly cutting. What do others think about this idea? So far how is your progress going?
You are going to end up gaining fat along with muscle. If you gain weight slower you can try to minimize the amount of fat you gain but it is at the expense of not reaching the potential amount of muscle you can gain per month. It really is personal preference.
What lifting program are you running? Does it have progressive overload built in?
I am currently doing a similar program to Strength/Hypertrophy lifting and hit each body part twice a week, working out 5 days a week, each week I try to do either more reps or more weight. That's a good point you make about the muscle gain. So maybe a year of bulking is too long?0 -
So- I officially started the last weekend in October/First of November.
I'm having a bit of an interesting transition period as I just got married- so meal prep and trying to get our house settled with the hubs in it is hard- I'm finding I'm constantly under eating (horrors)- but it's getting settled down.
I am essentially reversing out of my 1600-1700- calorie goal and the goal has currently been 1900-2000 calories for the last two weeks- I may hang here for another week- trying to go long and steady this bought.
Starting weight is approximately 165- (I need a new digital scale)
End Goal is 190
Measurements pending.
Bulking cycle is planned Nov- April.
Main goal is size this year not strength.
Programing- is a 3 day hypertrophy split- lots of whole body with heavy lean on push/pull and sets of 12-15.
I'm pretty much doing a *kitten* job of making this scientific at all this year- but we shall see- I need a weekend to sit down and figure out where I am- size wise- and take some pictures before I start packing it on.
So I want to bulk. I originally was planning the same type of time frame just like you, however I'm starting to realize that in the world of bodybuilding slow and steady wins the race. If you try to gain 25 lbs in the time frame you want it's not really enough time. Basically if bulk until April and then cut for summer, you'll simply just end up right where you started, which is kind of what happened to me. Some of the articles I read said the same thing. If you take an entire year to bulk and slowly gain the weight, you can then maintain for awhile and then start slowly cutting. What do others think about this idea? So far how is your progress going?
You are going to end up gaining fat along with muscle. If you gain weight slower you can try to minimize the amount of fat you gain but it is at the expense of not reaching the potential amount of muscle you can gain per month. It really is personal preference.
What lifting program are you running? Does it have progressive overload built in?
I am currently doing a similar program to Strength/Hypertrophy lifting and hit each body part twice a week, working out 5 days a week, each week I try to do either more reps or more weight. That's a good point you make about the muscle gain. So maybe a year of bulking is too long?
Really that would be up to you and how you feel about yourself. You might find this article interesting: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/initial-body-fat-and-body-composition-changes.html2 -
Strength finally fell off a bit this morning. Could just be a crap day, or the cut finally catching up with me...or the fact that I am stubborn and still insist upon lifting about 33% more often than Lyle's recommended max.
Either way, no big deal. Just today, Sunday and Monday, then it's refeed time, then off to maintenance land for a couple of weeks.0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Strength finally fell off a bit this morning. Could just be a crap day, or the cut finally catching up with me...or the fact that I am stubborn and still insist upon lifting about 33% more often than Lyle's recommended max.
Either way, no big deal. Just today, Sunday and Monday, then it's refeed time, then off to maintenance land for a couple of weeks.
D). All of the above?
Hopefully one day...2 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Strength finally fell off a bit this morning. Could just be a crap day, or the cut finally catching up with me...or the fact that I am stubborn and still insist upon lifting about 33% more often than Lyle's recommended max.
Either way, no big deal. Just today, Sunday and Monday, then it's refeed time, then off to maintenance land for a couple of weeks.
D). All of the above?
Hopefully one day...
Could very well be. It's just so damned hard to gauge due to normal fluctuations. I've had days on 1200 kcals where I was ripping weight off the floor, that felt nearly impossible to move when on 3200+.
I've finally learned to accept that some sessions will just suck *kitten*, no matter what.1 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Strength finally fell off a bit this morning. Could just be a crap day, or the cut finally catching up with me...or the fact that I am stubborn and still insist upon lifting about 33% more often than Lyle's recommended max.
Either way, no big deal. Just today, Sunday and Monday, then it's refeed time, then off to maintenance land for a couple of weeks.
D). All of the above?
Hopefully one day...
Could very well be. It's just so damned hard to gauge due to normal fluctuations. I've had days on 1200 kcals where I was ripping weight off the floor, that felt nearly impossible to move when on 3200+.
I've finally learned to accept that some sessions will just suck *kitten*, no matter what.
I think that's the thing- we rely heavily on food and all these things- and they definitely help- but I think there are just some days that are s**t. refeed. you'll feel better.
I'm about done bulking- I just have been so busy- and getting enough food has been a joke- so I will see what I can do this week- but I'm about done- would like to do pictures this weekend- maybe I can get it done tomorrow when we are off form the snow storm. wouldn't that be nice.0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Strength finally fell off a bit this morning. Could just be a crap day, or the cut finally catching up with me...or the fact that I am stubborn and still insist upon lifting about 33% more often than Lyle's recommended max.
Either way, no big deal. Just today, Sunday and Monday, then it's refeed time, then off to maintenance land for a couple of weeks.
D). All of the above?
Hopefully one day...
Could very well be. It's just so damned hard to gauge due to normal fluctuations. I've had days on 1200 kcals where I was ripping weight off the floor, that felt nearly impossible to move when on 3200+.
I've finally learned to accept that some sessions will just suck *kitten*, no matter what.
I think that's the thing- we rely heavily on food and all these things- and they definitely help- but I think there are just some days that are s**t. refeed. you'll feel better.
I'm about done bulking- I just have been so busy- and getting enough food has been a joke- so I will see what I can do this week- but I'm about done- would like to do pictures this weekend- maybe I can get it done tomorrow when we are off form the snow storm. wouldn't that be nice.
I just ended my 11 day cut this morning. Got to a passable level, so I'm hitting that refeed, the two weeks at maintenance-10%, then I'll make a call from there. I'd like to see about 3-5% lower bodyfat before I get into another surplus.
This morning:
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Thank god it's jelly bean season... great preworkout.4
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