Thoughts on sugar?
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I like sugar.
Oh, apparently fruit is magical because fibre cancels out the "evilness" of sugar.
I don't think anyone was saying sugar is evil
No food is inherently "good" or "bad". Applying human morals to food is pointless and can lead to disordered eating.
I just prefer to focus on the positives of food (yes, like fibre and nutrients) instead of the parts of food that many people consider negatives! 0 -
VeganRaptor wrote: »I like sugar.
Oh, apparently fruit is magical because fibre cancels out the "evilness" of sugar.
I don't think anyone was saying sugar is evil
No food is inherently "good" or "bad". Applying human morals to food is pointless and can lead to disordered eating.
I just prefer to focus on the positives of food (yes, like fibre and nutrients) instead of the parts of food that many people consider negatives!
You might be surprised on MFP the number of people that believe sugar is evil (along with other white foods) and sugar in fruits is completely different than cane/beet sugar. Generally, every sugar thread to date has lead to the "evilness" of sugar, such as: it turns to fat, causes diabetes, causes cancer, makes you hungrier, the magicalness of fibre, etc..8 -
katthouse499 wrote: »No offence to anyone but I only eat sugar that comes from fruit no refined sugar at all
Why would anyone be offended by your own personal choices? :huh:2 -
My thoughts on sugar:
I especially like that decorative kind that's big and crystalized that sits on top of some cookies and is kind of crunchy. It's really tasty.
Oh and brown sugar. Especially in oatmeal.
Oh, and raw sugar. On popcorn.
Saying that? I hardly eat it. I really like fruit a lot.
It's sad to me, because I have the perspective of 40 years of failed diet attempts and know how diet gurus and people selling books to the masses like to try to blame obesity on a single culprit and try to sell people on the idea of quick fixes. It's sad and enraging, actually... this demonizing of foods.
Sugar, carbs, fat... they don't make us fat -- unless they are eaten to excess. We, on an individual basis, putting too much food into our mouths make ourselves fat.8 -
katthouse499 wrote: »No offence to anyone but I only eat sugar that comes from fruit no refined sugar at all
I have not seen people get offended by comments about what someone individually chooses to do themselves.
Have only ever seen objections ( if that is what you are seeing as offence) when people extrapolate from their own personal choice of doing X to Everyone should do X and Not doing X is bad.
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The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.
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VintageFeline wrote: »The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.
Hihi. I actually still do that sometimes when my blood sugar crashes so badly that I risk passing out if I don't do something about it quickly. Tracking my food is thankfully helping with avoiding those situations but I keep sugar cubes in my handbag for just that reason.Chef_Barbell wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.
Yes please.
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VeganRaptor wrote: »I like sugar.
Oh, apparently fruit is magical because fibre cancels out the "evilness" of sugar.
I don't think anyone was saying sugar is evil
No food is inherently "good" or "bad". Applying human morals to food is pointless and can lead to disordered eating.
I just prefer to focus on the positives of food (yes, like fibre and nutrients) instead of the parts of food that many people consider negatives!
I don't consider sugar in fruit a negative. That seems like a problematic way of thinking about it. The sweetness is part of why fruit tastes good (the sugar in vegetables and foods like sweet potatoes contributes positively to their taste as well, IMO). The sugar in an apple pie also makes it taste good (IMO), as does the butter and so on, but because it has a lot of calories I will consume less of it or less often. I am also not offended if someone else would rather not spend calories on apple pie.1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »The way sugar is talked about these days it's like we think everyone is sitting around sucking on sugar cubes (I may or may not have done this in cafes as a child...........). It completely ignores that sugar is mostly just an ingredient in an item of food with lots of other stuff, lots of good stuff, that can help people meet their micro and macro goals.
So I'll carry on just eating what I fancy within my goals ta. Hasn't hindered my weight loss. Well. Except for that giant Toblerone type bar of chocolate but I'm laying the blame squarely at Trump and my hormones on that one.
Not sure what is worse. Knowing the first clip is from the hunger games and drooling over him, or knowing the second clip is from super troopers and knowing what lines come right before it. Lok5 -
I gave up sugar in drinks. That's about it. As far as solid foods, if there is a 'no sugar added' (knowing full well it has sugar, just no EXTRA was added) then I'll choose that every time. If there's a decent sugar free version I may choose it, but otherwise I don't sweat it as long as the calories fit in my goals. I figure just dropping it from drinks (soda, tea, coffee, etc.) was a big drop in the amount of sugar I ingest in a day.0
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shanimay23 wrote: »I just watched 'that sugar film' and found it SO educating. The part that surprised me the most was the fact that through the whole experiment his daily calorie intake was the same, yet when eating 'low fat foods' (PACKED with sugar) he put on 8kgs in two months! What I'm wondering is, what about fruit? How does fruit effect the body and does it release the same amount of insulin as refined sugars?
I always wonder what these low fat foods that are loaded with sugar actually are? I mean, most foods that would typically have fat that are made low fat don't have added sugars...think dairy...there is no added sugar to low fat dairy.
IMO, these low fat foods with lots of sugar always had lots of sugar...and were always low fat...I don't think I've ever seen a food that would typically be higher fat be made lower fat and then a bunch of sugar added..I mean maybe a gram or two for salad dressing or something...big deal.
Beyond that, most people who eat the SAD consume too much free sugars and could stand to cut down...it doesn't mean it's evil...it can be consumed in moderate amounts as part of a balanced, nutritious diet. Sugar itself isn't the issue...it's over-consumption and sucking down a 40 oz Big Gulp to wash down your 1500 calorie lunch that is the issue.7 -
If not eating sugar makes it easier for you to stick to your program, do it. If not eating sugar makes it more difficult for you to stick to your program, then eat sugar. I avoid adding sugar to things just as I avoid slathering things with butter for one reason: I'd rather spend my calories elsewhere. But if I want that candy bar or that scoop of ice cream, I'll have it -- and log the calories.3
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It's a good system of a down song.3
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MalkinMagic71 wrote: »It's a good system of a down song.
I was thinking second best band involving Bob Mould.0 -
I think sugar has been seriously demonized. I get that it's not a brussels sprout but it's not the devil either. IMO. 1
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shanimay23 wrote: »Thanks for the feedback! I gotta say, not the comments I was expecting, but very interesting nonetheless. I do think cutting out refined sugar completely is almost impossible and not completely necessary. I think I'll stick to eating fruit which I love and not eating any processed foods with over 5% of refined sugar.
THAT film helped me a ton. It kick started me into making my own meals again, into making thoughtful choices about what I ate, and it got me away from eating a lot of processed foods. I still eat refined sugar. I still eat processed foods, but in general, I am eating less of it.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.
Happily! You can have all the sprouts. An unrelated story as to my dislike for them but: a friend of mine once told his sister that they were baby cabbage patch kids and every time she ate one, a cabbage patch kid died. She never ate them again.6 -
If I have learned anything along this journey it was this: The truth is Calories in is what determines your weight gain/loss not what food is made of. Having said that it is still important to eat a healthy diet to ingest the vitamins, minerals, enzymes etc. that we need. Because my blood sugar was compromised I had to reduce sugar and found by doing that my cravings were also reduced. Just my experience and maybe others would not have the same thing happen.1
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nutmegoreo wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.
Happily! You can have all the sprouts. An unrelated story as to my dislike for them but: a friend of mine once told his sister that they were baby cabbage patch kids and every time she ate one, a cabbage patch kid died. She never ate them again.
I really shouldn't be laughing.2 -
Your trainer than is trained in broscience. It STILL boils down to calories in and out (CICO). The issue with sugar is that it tastes good and therefore easy to consume. And don't let your trainer get you to think that "all calories aren't created equal" either cause that's also BS.shanimay23 wrote: »It was my trainer!! Hahaha.
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Do you realize that body doesn't decipher any difference once ingested? Both get broken down to simplest for and then absorbed.katthouse499 wrote: »No offence to anyone but I only eat sugar that comes from fruit no refined sugar at all
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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nutmegoreo wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.
Happily! You can have all the sprouts. An unrelated story as to my dislike for them but: a friend of mine once told his sister that they were baby cabbage patch kids and every time she ate one, a cabbage patch kid died. She never ate them again.
I really shouldn't be laughing.
Kids are mean to their siblings, at least as adults we can laugh about it (hopefully). :laugh:1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.
Happily! You can have all the sprouts. An unrelated story as to my dislike for them but: a friend of mine once told his sister that they were baby cabbage patch kids and every time she ate one, a cabbage patch kid died. She never ate them again.
This is hilarious, but I still love them. When I was a kid we only ever had them on Thanksgiving (my mother hates them, my grandmother made them), and they were prepared with bacon and even for me as a kid oh so good. I thought they were cute too (and I always liked cabbage anyway). Now I think of bacon as the gateway drug for brussels sprouts.3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
You can send yours my way, I LOVE a sprout.
Happily! You can have all the sprouts. An unrelated story as to my dislike for them but: a friend of mine once told his sister that they were baby cabbage patch kids and every time she ate one, a cabbage patch kid died. She never ate them again.
This is hilarious, but I still love them. When I was a kid we only ever had them on Thanksgiving (my mother hates them, my grandmother made them), and they were prepared with bacon and even for me as a kid oh so good. I thought they were cute too (and I always liked cabbage anyway). Now I think of bacon as the gateway drug for brussels sprouts.
Oh man, sauteed with pancetta. *Dribbling*. My mum and I were the only ones who liked them so at Christmas we'd literally be snacking on them all the time. I mean sure, she could just make less but where's the fun in that!
I'm going to have to have sprouts very soon, sprout season is the best. Asparagus season comes a close second.1 -
Sugar and fat both have lots of calories and can cause weight gain if not moderated. All that is necessary for weight loss is a calorie deficit.0
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