December 2016 Running Challenge
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girlinahat wrote: »Timely topics of fuelling here! I've noticed struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles and that I'm flagging at 5miles, so want to experiment with some fuel. I run fasted mostly, and don't want to take on water, so will start with some dried fruit and go from there. Blackberry season worked well as I plucked berries as I ran!
My last run of the year this morning, meant to be 5 miles but got bored of the tow path and headed up into the woods making it 7miles. Thing is, I'm at a swing dance workshop all weekend so pretty much killed my legs and had to bail early for a test this afternoon.
Total miles for the month 38 ish.
See you on the flip side.
@girlinahat - Water is even more important than calories for longer running. If you're running without drinking anything, I'd suspect lack of fluid as being more significant than lack of in-run calories for flagging at 5 miles and struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles. Try carrying a water bottle and just taking a sip every mile, on the mile. See if it makes a difference to you at the 5 mile point. You might be surprised, even if you're not drinking any more than 8 ounces on a 7 mile run. [Discussion of electrolytes omitted because they're probably not all that big a factor in a 7 1/2 mile run.]
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lporter229 wrote: »Oh, by the way, I got the P90X3 videos for Christmas. Has anybody done these? Any advice on how best to work them in with marathon training? I was thinking to maybe stick with the pilates and yoga until after my marathon.
@lporter229
I used P90X3 to start my weight loss and went through the entire 90 day program. I lost 30 lbs in that 90 days and they helped me get super fit and able to run. When I started, I couldn't do 1 push up on my toes. By the end, I could do plyo push ups and 180 (10 sets of 18) on my toes.
However, I would probably just stick with yoga and pilates unless you want to add a day of non running cardio in there. Once I started running, I pretty much stopped using P90X3 with the exception of the yoga video from time to time. Instead, I do Body Pump or weights at the gym 2x per week, 1 day of non running cardio (stair climber, bike, or elliptical), 5 days of running and some yoga on long run days. If I couldn't get to the gym on my cardio day, I'd definitely do a P90X3 video. They are really great workouts. The MMX one was my fave...super challenging.0 -
girlinahat wrote: »Timely topics of fuelling here! I've noticed struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles and that I'm flagging at 5miles, so want to experiment with some fuel. I run fasted mostly, and don't want to take on water, so will start with some dried fruit and go from there. Blackberry season worked well as I plucked berries as I ran!
Try this. Instead of swallowing your sugar sports drink, just swish it around in your mouth and spit it out.
http://running.competitor.com/2014/05/nutrition/study-rinse-spit-out-your-sports-drink_9869
That could save me from choking when I take sports drinks at races.....of course if it's hot I'll still drink for real.0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »Timely topics of fuelling here! I've noticed struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles and that I'm flagging at 5miles, so want to experiment with some fuel. I run fasted mostly, and don't want to take on water, so will start with some dried fruit and go from there. Blackberry season worked well as I plucked berries as I ran!
Try this. Instead of swallowing your sugar sports drink, just swish it around in your mouth and spit it out.
http://running.competitor.com/2014/05/nutrition/study-rinse-spit-out-your-sports-drink_9869
That could save me from choking when I take sports drinks at races.....of course if it's hot I'll still drink for real.
I've done that a few times when trail running in the summer, but I'm the worst spitter ever!! Lol! It always dribbles all over me. If I did this in a race, it would probably be caught on camera, I'd get it all over another racer and they'd knock me down out of anger.0 -
Yay running! Just had a nice 5.2 mile run in my mom's neighborhood. All I need tomorrow is 2.15 to make 90.3
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girlinahat wrote: »Timely topics of fuelling here! I've noticed struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles and that I'm flagging at 5miles, so want to experiment with some fuel. I run fasted mostly, and don't want to take on water, so will start with some dried fruit and go from there. Blackberry season worked well as I plucked berries as I ran!
My last run of the year this morning, meant to be 5 miles but got bored of the tow path and headed up into the woods making it 7miles. Thing is, I'm at a swing dance workshop all weekend so pretty much killed my legs and had to bail early for a test this afternoon.
Total miles for the month 38 ish.
See you on the flip side.
@girlinahat - Water is even more important than calories for longer running. If you're running without drinking anything, I'd suspect lack of fluid as being more significant than lack of in-run calories for flagging at 5 miles and struggling to get past 7 1/2 miles. Try carrying a water bottle and just taking a sip every mile, on the mile. See if it makes a difference to you at the 5 mile point. You might be surprised, even if you're not drinking any more than 8 ounces on a 7 mile run. [Discussion of electrolytes omitted because they're probably not all that big a factor in a 7 1/2 mile run.]
I've tried taking the odd bit of water but it makes no difference and doesn't help my heavy legs. I'm not thirsty, and liquids sit and slosh around in me then I need to find a tree to hide behind. Plenty of long-distance runners and marathoners manage just fine without taking on any fluids at all and the risk of actual dehydration is low.
I carry an 8oz soft flask generally, but barely touch it until the end.
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Run didn't happen yesterday. I was busy all day but felt awful. Possibly carb flu
Feeling better today although I'm feeling a nap coming on. Did get a 3 mile run this morning (mid-morning). It felt tough and I wished it felt easier. Typical negative splits run for me despite the first half being downhill. Maybe tomorrow I'll make it longer than 3 miles 
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So, I almost checkered out on my plan to end 2016 with a 11 mile run starting at 2200 tomorrow. I was really thinking about just going tomorrow morning before my wife heads to work. We'll, with a winter weather advisory in effect and 3-5 inches of snow on the way tonight, tomorrow night might be the better time to run. End of the year run is back on!0
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lporter229 wrote: »Oh, by the way, I got the P90X3 videos for Christmas. Has anybody done these? Any advice on how best to work them in with marathon training? I was thinking to maybe stick with the pilates and yoga until after my marathon.
I did the original P90X. I ran on lifting days & just did the P90X cardio alone (most days). I don't think I was training for anything in particular.
I've used P90X and P90X individual videos as cross training during half training. But I just did random videos on cross training days.
I like the plyo video (can't recall the name of it on P90X3) and yoga. I never did P90X3 all the way through as a program.
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OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a Garmin Forerunner 225 in the next week or so. Does anybody have one? Recommend it or not?
I've been using the pretty basic Forerunner 110 for almost 3 years now. I don't need something super fancy but am looking forward to having a watch with a few more bells and whistles.
I really like the Forerunner watches; I have the 235 and love it...it does everything that I need it to do, and does it rather well. The 225 is a very similar watch, minus the Connect IQ apps and some data as far as I can tell (recovery advisor, training effect); for general running, you won't go far wrong with the 225. Not being able to use Connect IQ is no big deal as the available apps aren't that great. There are some good ones though...the Accuweather MinuteCast widget is great for predicting precipitation over the next couple of hours, and Text Watch is my all-time favourite watch face.
The lack of an altimeter may or may not be a concern to you. As I live in the very flat Dallas area, this was no real loss, but I can imagine that it would be a more useful feature to want to have if you tend to go running in hilly areas.
Battery life is fairly reasonable I think, with the real drain coming when using the GPS; I can usually get three good 2-hour runs in over the week before the battery's down to around 20% or so, and that's when I charge it back up for a couple of hours.
The watch is also very comfortable...I wear it 24/7 and it's light enough for me to sleep with it on and not be bothered by it.
The HRM is decent enough for running given the usual caveats that go with wrist-based monitors. For colder weather when I want to bundle up but still see my watch, I pair it up with a Scosche Rhythm+ armband instead so that I can wear the watch on the outside of my clothing.1 -
12/1: 6 miles with Pacers crew +lifting
12/2: 2 miles
12/3: 8 miles with the Saturday crew
12/4: 5.3 miles on trails +lifting
12/5: 6 miles
12/6: 2 miles + lifting
12/7: 6 miles
12/8: 6 miles + lifting
12/9: 1 mile
12/10: 13.1 miles
12/11: 4.6 miles on trails
12/12: 2 miles + lifting
12/13: 6.1 miles
12/14: 6 miles + lifting
12/15: 6 miles
12/16: 6 miles + lifting
12/17: 4.6 miles
12/18: 6 miles
12/19: 6 miles
12/20: 4 miles + lifting
12/21: 4 miles + lifting
12/22: 2 miles
12/23: 3.6 miles
12/24: 4 miles
12/25: 7 miles
12/26: 4 miles
12/27: 6.2 miles
12/28: 5 miles
12/29: 4.5 miles
12/30: 5 miles
5.8 more miles tomorrow will put me at 2400 on the nose for the year. I CAN DO IT! I am going to try to sucker my dad into running it with me since we got him a new Garmin for Christmas and he didn't take it out of the box until Wednesday and he hasn't even used it yet.
Winter/Spring 2017 Races:
1/8/17: NYCRUNS Cocoa Classic 10 mile
2/18/17: FebApple Frozen 50 - 10 mile option
3/12/17: E. Murray Todd HM
3/18/17: Looney Leprechaun 10k (trail)
3/26/17: Philly Love Run HM
4/1/17: NJ Ultra Fest HM (trail, maybe)
4/9/17: Rutgers UNITE HM (maybe)
5/14/17: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HM
5/21 or 5/28: Cleveland or Vermont City Marathons (maybe)
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@kristinegift you got this! 2400 is amazing!0
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Date:: :::: Miles:::: Dec total (goal = 80 91.4)
12/01/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
12/02/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 2.6
12/03/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 5.7
12/04/16 :::: 6.0 :::: 11.8
12/05/16 :::: 3.3 :::: 15.0
12/06/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 17.4
12/07/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 19.8
12/08/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 23.5
12/09/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 23.5
12/10/16 :::: 7.0 :::: 30.5
12/11/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 34.0
12/12/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 34.0
12/13/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 36.7
12/14/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 39.1
12/15/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 39.1
12/16/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 43.2
12/17/16 :::: 6.3 :::: 49.5
12/18/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 53.0
12/19/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 55.8
12/20/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 58.4
12/21/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
12/22/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
12/23/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 62.4
12/24/16 :::: 7.6 :::: 70.0
12/25/16 :::: 3.4 :::: 73.3
12/26/16 :::: 4.2 :::: 77.5
12/27/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 80.3
12/28/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 84.0
12/29/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 84.0
12/30/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 86.5
Treadmill run today, because I did a snowshoe hike this morning with Stella and wasn't up for another cold outing. I went in to clean my office and get a little work done, and promptly locked myself out of my office (where my keys and phone were) on a deserted campus. Had to call public safety for help. That will teach me to go in over break. I stopped at the Y on my way home and did my treadmill run - probably boosted with a little adrenaline from that experience.
Just need 4.9 miles to make my new goal of doubling last December's miles. I have a long run scheduled for tomorrow so that should not be a problem, barring unforeseen circumstances (especially since I promised a friend I would be there so I can't just stay in bed).1 -
@garygse I love text watch also! I got it in fall and used purple/yellow/white for my college team, then did green/red/white for December, and now changed to blue/white for winter Next up: Valentine's Day
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Well I probably won't be making my miles as I am currently laid up with a low grade fever and possibly strep throat. I'll be back at it for the new month when I'm recovered!0
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Argg... sometimes I hate MFP! I had my post all finished and went to preview it and poof it was gone!
I am just posting a mileage update and a couple of pictures and will come back later to get caught up with everyone.
I had a really nice rainy day run today - such a relief after a few hot days! Oh and I hit my goal yesterday!
Pelicans and friends enjoying the warm sunshine yesterday (nearly 80F)
Rainy day view - more rain is imminent!
Date........Miles.....Total
12/01......0.00......0.00 - + Rally
12/02......4.30......4.30
12/03......0.00......4.30
12/04......3.62......7.92
12/05......6.23....14.15 - Birthday run + Agility
12/06......4.53....18.68 - + Strength Training
12/07......0.00....18.68
12/08......5.91....24.59 - + Strength Training and Rally
12/09......9.35....33.94 - + Rally Trial
12/10......0.00....33.94
12/11......0.00....33.94
12/12......5.07....39.01 - + Agility
12/13......0.00....39.01 - + Strength Training
12/14......4.51....43.52
12/15......0.00....43.52 - + Strength Training
12/16......4.73....48.25
12/17......0.00....48.25
12/18....13.53....61.78 - San Diego Holiday Half and warm up
12/19......4.18....65.96 - Recovery run #1
12/20......4.46....70.42 - Recovery run #2 + Strength Training
12/21......0.00....70.42 - Rest Day!!
12/22......0.00....70.42 - + Strength Training
12/23......6.43....76.85
12/24......8.59....85.44
12/25......0.00....85.44 - Christmas
12/26......5.48....90.92
12/27......6.31....97.23 - + Strength Training
12/28......0.00....97.23
12/29......5.54..102.77 - + Strength Training and GOAL!!
12/30......4.51..107.28
My completed and upcoming Races - Let me know if you will be running too!
02/07/16 - Surf City Half Marathon
02/20/16 - Divas Half Marathon - Temecula
07/04/16 - SHEPower Virtual Half Marathon
07/31/16 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
08/21/16 - Tiki Beach 10k, Huntington Beach
09/18/16 - Beat the Blerch Half Marathon, Seattle
11/19/16 - USA Invitational Half Marathon (Yay, I qualified again!) - CANCELED!!
12/18/16 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/05/17 - Surf City Half Marathon
07/23/17 - San Francisco 1st Half Marathon4 -
@greenolivetree I hadn't thought about using different colours for seasons/occasions, but definitely blue/white for the win(ter)!
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@ashcky sorry to hear that
@shanaber cool pelicans!
@katharmonic before we got a house with a garage I was frequently locked out. Sucks!0 -
Got in a few runs while visiting family (including one with the niece today), so made it over my "run the year" goal yesterday.
Eating way too much w. family this week, so I won't be crushing my half marathon relay planned for the 7th, but ok with that. Likely going to try for an April marathon to give me time to get back into PR weight shape as I think I can finally squeak under the 3 hour mark if I can get down to 150lb for the start of a race and it'll take a few months to safely get to that number.
12/2 - 7 miles
12/3 - 5 miles
12/4 - 4 miles (warmup + 5K race)
12/6 - 7 miles
12/7 - 4 miles
12/10 - 15 miles
12/11 - 3 miles
12/12 - 5.5 miles
12/14 - 7.5 miles
12/16 - 7 miles
12/17 - 8.5 mil
12/18 - 7 miles
12/19 - 5.5 miles (Monday night intervals @ 5:50 pace)
12/21 - 4 miles
12/23 - 10 miles
12/25 - 10 miles
12/27 - 5 miles
12/29 - 8.5 miles
12/30 - 3 miles
Total: 126.5 miles
Goal: 180 miles
Remaining: 53.5 miles
2016 Race Schedule:
Disney Marathon - Jan 6 - 3:29:09
Gasparilla 15K - Feb 20 - 1:01:59
Ironman 70.3 Florida - Apr 10 - 5:07:51 (1:40:14 HM)
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 1 - 3:08:25
Ironman 70.3 Augusta - Sep 25 - 4:43:56 (1:35:30 HM)
Chicago Marathon - Oct 9 - 3:04:57
Ironman Florida - Nov 5 - 10:21:27 (3:38:20 marathon time)
Chase the Dreidel 5K - Dec 4 - 18:131 -
Decided to end the year with a trail run tomorrow Hoping I can run more than 30 min because I seem to have hit a 30 min wall lately. Not been the best circumstances but once you run that short for awhile 5 miles seems overwhelming
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December Goal: Trim my Thanksgiving turkey thighs and mashed potato/pumpkin pie paunch
12/1 rest
12/2 4.25
12/3 3.05
12/4 2.40 + strength/core training
12/5 rest
12/6 3.80
12/7 6.42
12/8 2.20 + core/strength training
12/9 snorkel 2 hours
12/10 rest
12/11 6.17
12/12 4.10
12/13 lazy
12/14 snorkel 15 MINUTES!
12/15 3.60
12/16 1.25 + core/strength training
12/17 3.80
12/18 rest
12/19 6.40 (1/10th mile for each birthday....)
12/20 lazy
12/21 3.50
12/22 I'm very sorry, I am behind my times. I was making vey merry today
12/23 3.35 + core/strength training
12/24 4.00 Mele Kalikimaka!
12/25 busy
12/26 busy
12/27 3.10
12/28 Pre-resolution party
12/29 3.25
12/30 4.11
Total: 68.75
Ticker is my goal for 2016 and total to date:
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Made December goal after a late start:
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7.0 km along the River Bank in a light snow fall. So quiet with the snow muffling my steps and all vehicle traffic.
It was a very tough run as my legs were dragging after yesterdays run where I pushed pretty hard.
Tomorrow promises to be a challenge as it is normally our Clubs Long run day and I plan on hitting the Ski Hill after the run for a day in the new snow. Probably won't make Goal as I don't believe my legs have 17 km in them tomorrow.
2015-12-31 Total of 638.4 km's. So in 2016 I have doubled my 2015 km's. Which explains why I retired 2 pairs of shoes this year, with 2 more mature pairs in my rotation approaching retirement.
December Running Goal 140km
12/01–0.0 km –140km – 0 km – YTD 1210.5 km
12/03–8.0 km –132km – 8 km
12/04–5.0 km –127km – 13 km
12/05–12.0 km –115km – 25 km
12/07–7.0 km –108km – 32 km
12/10–5.0 km –103km – 37 km
12/11–4.0 km –99km – 41 km
12/14–8.0 km –91km – 49 km
12/16–6.0 km –85km – 55 km
12/17–2.0 km –83km – 57 km
12/17–9.0 km –74km – 66 km
12/18–6.0 km –68m – 72 km
12/18–5.0 km –63km – 77 km
12/23–10.0 km –53km – 87 km
12/25–11.5 km –41.5km –98.5 km
12/26–7.0 km –34.5km –105.5 km
12/29–11.0 km –23.5km –116.5 km
12/30–7.0 km –16.5km –123.5 km – YTD 1334.0 km
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OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a Garmin Forerunner 225 in the next week or so. Does anybody have one? Recommend it or not?
I've been using the pretty basic Forerunner 110 for almost 3 years now. I don't need something super fancy but am looking forward to having a watch with a few more bells and whistles.
@OSUbuckeye906 @garygse pretty much covered everything.
I've had mine for 2 weeks and love it.
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01 Dec – 6.2 km Lake Wendouree
03 Dec – 5.4 km including Albert Melbourne parkrun with my nephew
04 Dec – 21.2 km Carman’s Women’s Half Marathon 2:07:59.4
07 Dec – 5.8 km
08 Dec – 4.3 km jog to Body Balance
09 Dec – 4.2 km
10 Dec – 2.6 km
11 Dec – 10 km
12 Dec – 6.8 km
13 Dec – 7 km
14 Dec – 9.2 km
15 Dec – 8.3 km
16 Dec – 1.7 km testing new Garmin
17 Dec – 7.6 km including parkrun
18 Dec – 14.8 km
20 Dec – 10.1 km
21 Dec – 5.1 KM
22 Dec – 7 km
25 Dec – 12.4 km
26 Dec – 8.1 km
27 Dec – 10.1 km
28 Dec – 8 km
29 Dec – 6 km
30 Dec – 7 km
31 Dec – 5.1 km parkrun
Total: 226 km
Goals:
Merry Fitmas Exercise Challenge: 30 minutes of exercise every day in December. DONE!
Brooks North Pole Run Club Challenge (Strava): Run 6 hrs over 12 days from December 5 - December 16. DONE!
New Balance Run Festive (Strava): Run 50 km from December 24 to December 31. DONE!
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@greenolivetree - so glad you are home and back to running the trails!
@skippygirlsmom - that Skip! Wow - I am just amazed at her speed and her determination! I suspect she won't be coming in last!
@ddmom0811 - I hope your husband is feeling back to normal and that you are still doing ok (food poisoning and not contagious!). Good job getting in that streak mile when I am sure you were tired from traveling!
@RunTimer - love the picture looking back on the bridge! Makes me wish I was still up north to run there!
@Elise4270 - YAY!! Congratulations on being back on the trail or road or...whatever... back running again!
@_nikkiwolf_ - love the picture and can just imagine the effort to get over that tree with tired legs!
@lporter229 - I was working too! Not very busy but got a bunch of training out of the way and fit in my run!
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 - Welcome back! Hope the recovery is going well!
If it isn't pouring tomorrow morning I will get in a good run to end the year. Otherwise I will run on Sunday morning to kick off 2017! Either way it's a win!1 -
OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a Garmin Forerunner 225 in the next week or so. Does anybody have one? Recommend it or not?
I've been using the pretty basic Forerunner 110 for almost 3 years now. I don't need something super fancy but am looking forward to having a watch with a few more bells and whistles.
I really like the Forerunner watches; I have the 235 and love it...it does everything that I need it to do, and does it rather well. The 225 is a very similar watch, minus the Connect IQ apps and some data as far as I can tell (recovery advisor, training effect); for general running, you won't go far wrong with the 225. Not being able to use Connect IQ is no big deal as the available apps aren't that great. There are some good ones though...the Accuweather MinuteCast widget is great for predicting precipitation over the next couple of hours, and Text Watch is my all-time favourite watch face.
The lack of an altimeter may or may not be a concern to you. As I live in the very flat Dallas area, this was no real loss, but I can imagine that it would be a more useful feature to want to have if you tend to go running in hilly areas.
Battery life is fairly reasonable I think, with the real drain coming when using the GPS; I can usually get three good 2-hour runs in over the week before the battery's down to around 20% or so, and that's when I charge it back up for a couple of hours.
The watch is also very comfortable...I wear it 24/7 and it's light enough for me to sleep with it on and not be bothered by it.
The HRM is decent enough for running given the usual caveats that go with wrist-based monitors. For colder weather when I want to bundle up but still see my watch, I pair it up with a Scosche Rhythm+ armband instead so that I can wear the watch on the outside of my clothing.
Thanks for the helpful review! I think I'll probably go ahead and order the watch sometime next week. Garmin actually has some certified refurbished (w/warranty) watches on Amazon and, because they're not brand new, they are pretty reasonably priced. I got my Forerunner 110 for dirt cheap this way 3 years ago and it still works almost as well as when I got it. So, I guess I'm not too worried about the possibility of wanting to upgrade after I've had the 225 for a little while since I won't be paying full price. Too bad they don't have all their watches available as refurbished.
Also, I just was able to upload all my runs from the past few years to Garmin Connect tonight via my mom's computer. For some reason my computer had a problem recognizing my watch, so I've only had them stored in my watch this whole time. I was like a kid in a candy shop pouring over all the info for a few hours. I also was able to finally answer some pace and elevation questions I've always wondered about in what I like to call "The Great San Diego Marathon Catastrophe of 2014".
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Quick note: got to run today in Tokyo. Long day (30.7 K steps and counting so far!) but we were taking a respite before heading to my birthday supper of sushi and I took a few moments for a quick 1.5 miles. I'll post a couple pics later (yes, I actually stopped to take some!) 'cause I can't figure out how to add them now on my phone.3
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