December 2016 Running Challenge
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Well, it looks like today might be my last chance to run this year. I will be too busy on Thursday and Friday with family obligations. Saturday will depend on what time I have to take my son home, but I'm hoping I can squeeze in a short run then. Sheesh. I'll be glad when December is over and I can get back to a somewhat regular schedule.0
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No run today, but the weather was so gorgeous I went for a five mile walk with a friend. Along the river, across fields(more frosty and crispy than muddy), got a bit lost in one field so got directions from some guys heading back from bearing for a shoot. Quick stop for a cup of tea in a pub at the halfway point then back a bigger loop for a huge steak sandwich in another pub. Like a pub crawl without alcohol!!
Hoping for a seven mile run tomorrow morning.3 -
Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Dec 01 4.4T 4.4 Dec 03 5.6 10.0 Dec 04 5.1 15.1 Dec 07 5.2T 20.3 Dec 09 6.5 26.8 Dec 11 8.2 35.0 Dec 13 5.1 40.1 Dec 16 6.2T 46.3 Dec 18 6.6T 52.9 Dec 26 10.8 63.7 Dec 28 6.5 70.2
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December goal: 100 miles
12/1: 3.25 miles
12/2: 2.75 miles
12/3: 3.15 miles (m)
12/4: Rest Day
12/5: 5 miles (2 + 3 treadmill)
12/6: 4 miles (m)
12/7: 4 miles
12/8: 4.35 miles (m)
12/9: Rest Day
12/10: 3.5 miles
12/11: 5 miles (m)
12/12: 4 miles
12/13: 4 miles (m)
12/14: 5 miles (m)
12/15: 4 miles (m)
12/16: Rest Day
12/17: 3 miles (m)
12/18: 7 miles (m)
12/19: 3.5 miles (m)
12/20: 4 miles
12/21: 3.5 miles
12/22: 3.5 miles (m)
12/23: 2.25 miles (m)
12/24: 3 miles
12/25: Rest Day
12/26: 5 miles (m)
12/27: 3.25 miles (m)
12/28: 4 miles (m)
My Total/December: 94 miles
Mike's Total: 61.5 miles
Hmmm...2017 goals? To run every month in 2017; finish the year with at least 1200 miles run and run a half marathon. Additionally, I will evaluate how I am feeling and doing about halfway through the year and consider training for a January 2018 marathon.
@katharmonic What a great running year! Nicely done!
@ddmom0811 Yuck, food poisoning is not fun! Hope your husband is feeling better.
@OSUbuckeye906 Glad your shin is feeling a little better. I hope the new doc is able to help.
@Orphia Nice headstand! I don't think I have ever done one...even when I was young and thin.
@MNLittleFinn You've got a big goal there for 2017. I'm looking forward to following your training.
@greenolivetree I bet you'll be happy to get home. Great job running every month this year!
@HonuNui I suppose if I repeated that enough times it would eventually roll of the tongue smoothly...maybe.
Have a fabulous rest of the day everyone!
Completed Races:
12/3 Snowball Run 5K, Kingwood TX (35:34.2) *PR
Upcoming Races:
1/22 Choco Loco 10K, Houston, TX
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01/12 3.12 miles
02/12 3 miles
03/12 3 miles
13/12 3 miles
14/12 3 miles - there was a full moon tonight, it was lovely
16/12 3.25 miles
17/12 3 miles
20/12 3 miles - start of the stormy weather
21/12 3 miles
22/12 3.18 miles
24/12 3.11 miles
27/12 4.6 miles
28/12 4 miles
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@lissadecker running every month , getting 1200 miles and running a HM sound like great goals for 2017!
@Marissaxzxzxz you're closing in on your goal!0 -
12/1 - 4.2 miles
12/2 - 35 min elliptical (hills), weight machines
12/3 - rest (too busy with kids' bday party!)
12/4 - 4.32 miles
12/5 - 35 min elliptical (hills), weight machines
12/6 - 4.21 miles
12/7-12/11 - unable to exercise due to migraine
12/12 - 35 min elliptical (hills), weight machines
12/13 - 4.27 miles
12/14 - 35 min elliptical (hills), weight machines
12/15 - 20 min circuit training
12/16 - 20 min circuit training, 2.3 mile walk/run
12/17 - rest
12/18 - rest
12/19 - 1.4 miles
12/20 - 35 min elliptical, weight machines
12/21 - 3.1 miles
12/22 - 35 min elliptical, weight machines
12/23 - 4.2 miles
12/24 - rest
12/25 - rest
12/26 - 2 miles, 1 mile walk
12/27 - 35 min elliptical, weight machines
12/28 - 3 miles
Conpleted: 33 miles / 40 miles (82%)
Hoping to make my goal but I might miss it by a hair!0 -
@ashcky I think you'll make it!0
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@Ohhim @ddmom0811 sorry guys to hijack briefly the 3d, got a quick question for you
How different is cycling from Running from a nutritional point of view in your experience? I've got used to not drink or eat anything during long runs (even marathon I'd not too hot) being fine but my first.rides completely killed. Me!
Strava, fr630 and edge 820 also give me different cal estimates and I'm in trouble as I cannot underestimate
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Hi and happy vacation period to all!
Goal for December: 120k
12/1: 8k
12/2: 2.2k (warmup for strength training)
12/5: 6.8k
12/6: 6.8k intervals
12/7: 2.1k (as a warmup for strength training)
12/9: 10.2k (easy run, quad testing)
12/10: 8.7k (intervals)
12/11: 6k
12/13: 2k treadmill (leg test)
12/14: 10.1k beach running
12/17: 6.1k easy+strides
12/18: 10k RACE!!
12/20: 2k Easy treadmill
12/21: 3k Easy soft ground
12/24: 6.5k easy trail running
12/25: 9k trail
12/28: 6.2k (morning), 2k (noon)
106.9/120k
The pain at the inner thigh insist, so I dunnot believe that I will reach my goal for this month. But I will try dor sure. I wish a happy new year to all if I won't catch up with you till Saturday!2 -
@nikolaoskey Sorry to hear about the thigh problem!0
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@skippygirlsmom - he's still sick! I feel terrible for him. I went to meet my daughter for lunch and then walked up Broadway for a few miles. Popped in and out of stores, didn't buy much. Having dinner with cousin and her husband from Long Island and he just can't go. He's been in bed >24 hours at this point. Starting to feel a little better and hoping to at least get out tomorrow.
@patrikc333 - The nutrition is very different cycling. At least for me it is. When I did my first 100 mile ride back in September, I tried to eat a few bites of Clif bar every 20 minutes while riding. I drank a ton of water/drinks. With running I can't really eat/drink too much or it would mess with my stomach. But riding, you must eat often. I think I ate about 2000 calories while riding that 100 miles. I'm curious to see what @ohhim says!
Goals for 2017 ... stay healthy! Focus a little more on strength training. I was rereading my favorite book Younger next Year ... but the exercise book he wrote a few years after the first book. And he talks about how important it is to do strength training. You won't have the normal aches and pains as you age. I know many of you are a lot younger than me (55), but it's true for any age! I think I am going to do a different strength training starting next month. There is a bike store that has a gym that specializes in tri-athletes. I am going to sign up for that which will be cheaper than my trainer and I can go 3x a week instead of 2.
Also, goal for 2017 - take a full rest day once a week, or maybe once every other week. After this Holiday streak that is.
12/1 - 3.2 miles
12/2 - 1.5 miles
12/3 - 45 miles biking + 1 mile run
12/4 - 27 miles biking + 1 mile run
12/5 - 4 miles
12/6 - 4 miles
12/7 - 1 mile on treadmill for streak (after strength training)
12/8 - 4.47 miles
12/9 - 1 mile on treadmill for streak (after strength training)
12/10 - 77 miles bike and 1 mile run for streak!
12/11 - 27 miles biking and 1 mile run for streak
12/12 - 4 miles
12/13 - 5 miles
12/14 - 2.1 miles - day 21 streak + strength training
12/15 - 4.5 miles
12/16 - 1.5 miles
12/17 = 44 miles biking + 1 mile run
12/18 - 27 miles biking + 1 mile run
12/19 - 4 miles
12/20 - 6.07 miles
12/21 - 5.02 miles
12/22 - 5.4 miles
12/23 - 2.25 miles
12/24 - 44 miles biking + 1 mile run
12/25 - 2.5 miles
12/26 - 1 mile
12/27 - 5.57 miles in Astoria, Queens.
12/28 - 5 miles in Astoria
Upcoming races
2/5/17 - Daytona Beach HM
2/26/17 - Disney Princess HM Orlando
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Wow, @orphia, nice goals! And beautiful! That will be quite a year.
Date:: :::: Miles:::: Dec total (goal = 80 91.4)
12/01/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
12/02/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 2.6
12/03/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 5.7
12/04/16 :::: 6.0 :::: 11.8
12/05/16 :::: 3.3 :::: 15.0
12/06/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 17.4
12/07/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 19.8
12/08/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 23.5
12/09/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 23.5
12/10/16 :::: 7.0 :::: 30.5
12/11/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 34.0
12/12/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 34.0
12/13/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 36.7
12/14/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 39.1
12/15/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 39.1
12/16/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 43.2
12/17/16 :::: 6.3 :::: 49.5
12/18/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 53.0
12/19/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 55.8
12/20/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 58.4
12/21/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
12/22/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
12/23/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 62.4
12/24/16 :::: 7.6 :::: 70.0
12/25/16 :::: 3.4 :::: 73.3
12/26/16 :::: 4.2 :::: 77.5
12/27/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 80.3
12/28/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 84.0
Fun afternoon impromptu run with some of the running group - someone posted on facebook looking for a running buddy and a few of us showed up. Followed by coffee, so it was a nice afternoon. Love being on winter break so I can take advantage of a few of these things.
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@ddmom0811 I hope he's feeling better soon.0
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Wow. Have been MIA since Friday and I missed over 100 posts. I probably am not going to get to those. I did skim through, you know, checking out the pictures and stuff. @Orphia - Great job on the handstand! You look sooo strong. I love your goals too.
I hope everyone had a great Christmas. Mine was good but hectic. Traveled to Pittsburgh to see my mom, made several trips to see other family and friends while there, and then drove to West Virginia on Monday to see my hubby's parents. All with the dog. I did get my runs in everyday, including 13.2 on Saturday. Still looking in good shape for making goal.2 -
Thanks, guys! xxx@Orphia - these are almost exactly my running targets except I don't have a target number of 30k/HMs. I'd also like to crack a 2hr HM and do a marathon (no time goal).
@dkabambe Yay, twins! Ditto.
Shhh, my unspoken wish is to do a marathon, but it means too much to share it. It would be the cherry on top of those goals.1 -
@Orphia go for a full! You have some amazing goals for next year.....making me feel a little unambitious..... have a feeling that fweling will pass in 5 and a half months as I'm dying on mile 261
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Made my goal with a couple of days to spare... who am I?!
Sorry I've been quiet, but family duty calls. No doubt I will get some replying done tomorrow when I'm supposed to be at work!
December Running Challenge
2nd - 3.06 miles
3rd - 11.02 miles
6th - 3.04 miles
7th - 5.19 miles
8th - 4.05 miles
10th - 4.73 miles
12th - 3.18 miles
14th - 6.22 miles
17th - 13.1 miles HM PB 1:56:20
19th - 3.15 miles
21st - 5.5(ish) miles
23rd - 7.03 miles
24th - 5.02 miles
26th - 3.40 miles
28th - 5.55 miles
MTD - 83.19/80 miles
Upcoming races:
12th March 2017 - North London Half Marathon
9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon2 -
Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
I didn't have to do for HM training.1 -
Date Miles today - Miles for December
12/1 6 miles - 6
12/2 4 miles - 10
12/3 12 miles - 22
12/4 REST DAY
12/5 5 miles - 27
12/6 4 miles - 31
12/7 REST DAY
12/8 3.5 miles - 34.5
12/9 REST DAY
12/10 26.4 - 60.9
12/11 REST DAY
12/12 REST DAY
12/13 REST DAY
12/14 REST DAY
12/15 4 miles - 64.9
12/16 REST DAY
12/17 REST DAY
12/18 REST DAY
12/19 6.5 miles 71.4
12/20 6.2 miles 77.6
12/21 4 miles - 81.6
12/22 8 miles - 89.6
12/23 5 miles - 94.6
12/24 11 miles - 105.6
12/25 REST DAY
12/26 8 miles - 113.6
12/27 10 miles - 123.6
12/28 4 miles - 127.6
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12 << 1:35:55 2 in AG & 25 OA
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10 << 2:44:41
Kentucky Derby Marathon - 4/29
I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.
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I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.
You been busy? You need some time away from your virtual family? You injured? Family alright?
Just hope you're doing well (*through gritted teeth* and waiting for the next challenge that I just get to watch from a far).
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
I didn't have to do for HM training.
For me, anything longer than 10 miles included Gatorade breaks. I don't remember at what point I started experimenting with gels. I believe it was maybe 15 miles. I also tried fig newtons but that never lasted beyond my first year. I also did fasted runs that only had water breaks. Some of my runs were fasted (train low race high) and some of them were fully fueled with refueling.0 -
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I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.
You been busy? You need some time away from your virtual family? You injured? Family alright?
Just hope you're doing well (*through gritted teeth* and waiting for the next challenge that I just get to watch from a far). miiiiiisssss yaaaaa
Yeah. I am not injured or anything like that. I get my runs in, just don't get to log them here over my Christmas break. Next week I will be on travel to Ft. Knox and Ft. Campbell after New Years break. Thanks for asking.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
I didn't have to do for HM training.
Don't know that I count as "experienced," seeing as how I've completed only 2 marathons and failed to complete my 3rd attempt. Anyway, I started experimenting with gels and chews when the long runs got to over an hour. I started with every 45 minutes per the standard recommendation, and figured I'd need one gel in my first half marathon. Which is what I used.
Later, I followed the example of a more experienced marathon runner I was training with, and switched to taking a gel every 5 miles. That subsequently got compressed to shorter distances at race pace; my ideal half now has a gel at mile 5 and a gel at mile 9 or so. I used 7 gels in each of the marathons I completed; I can't claim to have found the timing I like best for them. Certainly they come more frequently later in the race.1 -
December Running Totals (miles)
12/1 – 8.08 warmup + speed work
12/2 – rest day
12/3 – 10.13 warmup + 5K race + easy 30 minutes
12/4 – 8.07 easy
12/5 – rest day
12/6 – 5.96 warmup, speed work, cool down
12/7 – 6.00 easy
12/8 – 3.78 easy
12/9 – 3.80 course preview
12/10 – 5.01 USATF Club Nationals Masters 8K
12/11 – 2.57 easy
12/12 – 10.15 easy
12/13 – 6.21 hills
12/14 – rest day
12/15 – 5.25 with wind and snow
12/16 – 6.27 easy
12/17 – 6.40 warmup + Reindeer Run 5K
12/18 – rest day
12/19 – 12.00 easy
12/20 – 6.46 easy
12/21 – unplanned rest day
12/22 – 5.16 easy with fast finish
12/23 – 5.18 easy plus one stride
12/24 – 13.00 paced run
12/25 – 7.31 easy
12/26 – 6.84 easy
12/27 – 5.28 warmup + speed work
12/28 – 5.30 group run
December total to date – 154.20
Nominal Challenge Goal – 150 miles
Real Goals: Finish transition to healthy running. Use Club Nationals as a learning experience on managing air travel to a race. Build a base toward Boston training. Avoid re-injury
Today's notes – Wore my trail shoes because I expected the leader of a 6 mile group run to include some easy trail segments, and I expected those segments to have snow. Turned out he wasn't there, and I dropped back to what is usually the middle of 3 groups, running about 5 miles. There was a wait at a stoplight, and a couple longish waits to regroup as the some of us were faster than others; late in the run, I took an option to add some distance in an extra loop with some of the faster runners. Turned in an average pace of 8:37 per mile including stops, Garmin says 8:11 average moving time; but the faster part was all in the last 2 miles. Between the slow pace and the stops, my heart rate only got above Zone 1 for 3:45 of the 45:42 run. Felt almost like a rest day, which is not a bad thing for a day labeled "easy" on the marathon training plan.
Oh, yeah. Hit goal for the month today. I expect to run about 15 more miles this week/month/year, all of which end on Saturday.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNF a mile from finish
October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY) finished in 42:38, First Senior (60+) Male
December 3, 2016 Freezeroo #1 (Don Curran Memorial 5K) (Gates, NY) finished in 20:06
December 10, 2016 USATF National Club Cross Country Championships 8K (Tallahassee, FL) finished in 33:38
December 17, 2016 Reindeer Run 5K (Rochester, NY) finished in 23:27 in the snow
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY)
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY)
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY)
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship 8K (Bend, OR)
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY)
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 10K) (Webster, NY)
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »@Orphia go for a full! You have some amazing goals for next year.....making me feel a little unambitious..... have a feeling that fweling will pass in 5 and a half months as I'm dying on mile 26
@MNLittleFinn Thanks! I reckon you'll achieve my goals too, in the process of doing your marathon.
I'm hoping with the 30 km long runs I'm aiming for, I might be in a good position to do the full.
Twins again! And now @dkabambe is our triplet!MNLittleFinn wrote: »Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
I didn't have to do for HM training.
In for the answers.0 -
Thanks @MobyCarp with my slower (~10:00) hoped for pace for the marathon, I'm figuring I'll be running for 4:25+ on race day, so your input on the every 45 minutes or every 5 miles was good info. it will give me a starting place to work from when I begin pushing my long runs out further.
So far, out to 12 or 13 miles, I've run fasted and not eaten on the runs, but I figure that learning to eat on the run, and finding out how much I need will give me an idea of how many gels to load up on come race day. I might start bringing a gel with on my 9+ mile runs, just to get used to eating something about 45-60 minutes in. I have a whole box of honey stingers (that I know I can tolerate while running) so I might as well start making use of them.
@Orphia my first 13 mile long run of the year is next week, I might just push it to 13.1 for an unofficial HM. 30k Long runs would get you into good position to do a full, with maybe 1 or 2 runs pushed to like 32-33k too. You'll do it!1 -
@MNLittleFinn - I should add the disclaimer that I know many runners who use fewer gels than I do.
Also, every 5 miles is more often than every 45 minute for me, though it's usually over 40 minutes on training runs; but it's significantly less than 45 minutes in races. I tell first-time half trainees that the 45 minutes recommended by most beginner training plans and most gel makers is a reasonable place to start from in figuring out what's optimal for you.
You specifically said "gels," so I assume that's your in-race fuel of choice. It may also take some experimentation to see what works best for you; some people do better with chews than I do.0
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