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One of the most debated topics: Starvation Mode
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Ha, ha! Chemtrails in the mind. The uninformed.1
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I am of the mind that if one wants to believe in certain things and are unable to listen and learn from people who can interpret the science and only wants to disagree then there's not much one can do.
Stay in a circle of belief or drop the defenses and learn. Everyone has a choice.3 -
Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.10 -
CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
brb snapping all my oreos in half18 -
OP, if you want to know more about adaptive thermogenesis, here is a good thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1077746/starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss/p10
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CipherZero wrote: »If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out...
Huh. I didn't know that.0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »CipherZero wrote: »If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out...
Huh. I didn't know that.
I'm mainlining crushed Oreos as we speak.8 -
Why do you keep starting threads asking for opinions and then get offended when people give you opinions? Especially in the debate forum.15
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I'll take "what is attention?" For 1000, Alex.26
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Verity, you have been here for nearly 5 years. You should be well versed on the answers to your questions by now.15
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Debated where? At MFP its mostly scoffed at. In real life, when I hear it mentioned at all, its done so in passing. Usually the person saying it goes back to eating they way they always have.2
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Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
I know people who believe in chemtrails, and there are people who believe the moon landing never happened. It's pretty hard to debate derp.
There was just a long thread about homeopathic medicine in another subforum, which is some of the derpiest derp that ever did derp. But you can't debate with a True Believer because their mind is already made up and they'll just ignore the volumes of established science which say otherwise.
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4) eat anything and everything you want whenever you want and still lose weight!
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CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
brb snapping all my oreos in half
Also - anything eaten while standing up doesn't count because the effort of standing negates the calories.
Therefore, broken cookies eaten while standing are negative calorie foods.9 -
CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
You are bordering on heresy. The broken articles theory permeates to Doritos and Pringles as well.
It is known Khaleesi.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
brb snapping all my oreos in half
Also - anything eaten while standing up doesn't count because the effort of standing negates the calories.
Therefore, broken cookies eaten while standing are negative calorie foods.
Would that also apply to broken peanut M&Ms?
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Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
I know people who believe in chemtrails, and there are people who believe the moon landing never happened. It's pretty hard to debate derp.
There was just a long thread about homeopathic medicine in another subforum, which is some of the derpiest derp that ever did derp. But you can't debate with a True Believer because their mind is already made up and they'll just ignore the volumes of established science which say otherwise.
Users who liked this post also liked:
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2) Squats
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Pizza for dinner last night. - Check;
Volume squats last night. - Check;
Other awesome stuff - Debatable, but I'm giving myself the benefit of the doubt, so Check.6 -
cmriverside wrote: »CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
brb snapping all my oreos in half
Also - anything eaten while standing up doesn't count because the effort of standing negates the calories.
Therefore, broken cookies eaten while standing are negative calorie foods.
That's where I've been going wrong! I need to stand up when I eat.
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CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
Someone let Carlos know of this development!5 -
CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
You are bordering on heresy. The broken articles theory permeates to Doritos and Pringles as well.
It is known Khaleesi.
But be VERY CAREFUL!! Khaleej can lead to STARVATION MODE if you don't eat at least three meals a week sitting at the table eating more than 2000 calories. Between 6:00 and 8:00 pm so your body doesn't hold onto the calories over night. Make sure none of the food is broken.5 -
Would that also apply to broken peanut M&Ms?
And does it count if I break them with my teeth?
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11babyblues11 wrote: »Would that also apply to broken peanut M&Ms?
And does it count if I break them with my teeth?
Sadly not.
Due to the electrostatic barrier created by the sugar bonds on the coating, the calories will be retained even when the coating is fractured.
Only way around this is to compromise the outer shell, then shake them vigorously whilst facing North. This will help detach the calories by utilising the earths magnetic attraction, coupled with the kinetic energy from shaking.24 -
Verity1111 wrote: »Does it exist? Is it only for those truly starving or do you think more research needs to be done?
Do you think weight stalls and the body can stop losing weight after only a few weeks of eating less than necessary or exercising too hard?
I really am not sure how I feel about this. I have experienced a time where I was stalled, raised my calories for a day or two, lowered them and then my weight dropped at the normal rate again... Also, zig-zagging my calories seemed to help a lot. It could have just been water weight and a coincidence, so I am open minded on this topic. Share your thoughts. Including anything on how this relates to ketoacidosis.
"Starvation mode" as it is often used isn't a thing...adaptive thermogenesis is a thing. Also, crash dieting and incessant amounts of exercise will jack around with a variety of hormones including raising cortisol levels...hormones have a pretty big impact on metabolic function and thus the stress of crashing your diet and incessant exercise can have the opposite effect of what is intended and impede fat loss to some extent...but it's not "starvation mode"...it's just *kitten* up hormones and stress.5 -
11babyblues11 wrote: »Would that also apply to broken peanut M&Ms?
And does it count if I break them with my teeth?
Sadly not.
Due to the electrostatic barrier created by the sugar bonds on the coating, the calories will be retained even when the coating is fractured.
Only way around this is to compromise the outer shell, then shake them vigorously whilst facing North. This will help detach the calories by utilising the earths magnetic attraction, coupled with the kinetic energy from shaking.
Now to find North
(oh and totally gonna do that on Monday just to see my office mates' reaction. Especially the one pushing detoxes...
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well dam, now I want popcorn...with butter
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To believe in starvation mode you have to have no understanding of biology. I use the word "believe" as there is nothing more to this. You can certainly choose to believe in starvation mode, but you would still be wrong.
There is an increasing sector of the population that has no idea how to properly source information and don't understand scientific method enough to understand what information is provable/reproducible and what is not. Most cannot look outside themselves to even entertain the notion that they could be wrong. The process never moves beyond - I skipped McDonalds this week and I gained weight - so starvation mode is real!
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CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
Someone let Carlos know of this development!
If I break all my Oreos I'm scared I might go into starvation mode.8 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
Someone let Carlos know of this development!
If I break all my Oreos I'm scared I might go into starvation mode.
Then you'll just have to make this:
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Carlos_421 wrote: »CipherZero wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »There is debate though. I personally don't have an opinion but I see a lot of people who think it's a real thing.
If someone wants to believe that the calories in broken oreos don't count because the calories leak out, I'm more than willing to let them.
Simply because someone believes a thing doesn't mean it's worth one second of my time to refute it.
Someone let Carlos know of this development!
If I break all my Oreos I'm scared I might go into starvation mode.
Then you'll just have to make this:
Holy mother of god.
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