"You can lose weight without working out". YES. But...
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog? Are you seriously saying that walking a dog doesn't require effort and improve physical and mental factors?
Note: I don't own a dog, but I have walked my grandparent's shepherd when I was younger.4 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
Well, for one, when I walk alone I pick up poop absolutely never.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.2 -
Hungry_Shopgirl wrote: »I 100% agree that being in a calorie deficit is all it takes to lose weight.
But when I read on the boards people telling others who are struggling to make time to work out "You don't need exercise to lose weight" I cringe a little....mostly because in my own case it all started with exercise.
I started swimming, and wanted to be better at it so I took up C25K, then figured eating better would probably help with both, bringing me to the calorie deficit that put me into the "normal weight" BMI for the first time in my adult life. Even now, exercising is the engine for me. If I'm working out, I WANT to eat well. If not, I don't care.
So perhaps there are other "latent" athletes out there for whom the advice to make time to work out could be the trigger that changes everything, and we're discouraging that by saying "Nah, don't worry about it, just eat less".
Thoughts?
I absolutely HATE to work out so I WILL NOT make time for it. I will stick with my calorie deficit to lose weight and I will eat adequate protein to help spare my muscles. So, it's 100% diet for me 0% exercise.
I'm glad that Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't share your philosophy. Her exercise routine is an inspiration to my 79 year old mother and 50 year old me. If You Could Do As Many Push-ups As Ruth Bader Ginsburg, You Wouldn't Retire Either
The three of us are aware that muscles are what allow us to get up from the toilet unassisted. My OH's mother is now in a nursing home because she lost this ability due to her sedentary lifestyle.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jarrylee/the-notorious-rbg?utm_term=.rvBMoQ6wvP#.umKMkzK3Bl
...The justice starts with a five-minute warm-up on the elliptical, followed by stretching and rotational exercises. Lately, Bryant Johnson [her trainer] has had her do one-legged squats — holding on to his hands — and planks, where he does his best to knock the tiny justice down. But the signature move is one that Johnson describes as “the exercise that will actually stop you from having to have a nurse 24/7,” preventing the client from getting to “the moment you can’t sit down at the toilet and get up.”7 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
But why wouldn't you consider walking a dog "purposeful" exercise? Again, I burn up to or even more than 300 calories every day, JUST from that simple, slow activity. I'm not exaggerating my numbers, it's a fact. So you can call it exercise, call it working out, call it walking the dog.....doesn't matter. Activity is activity. If it burns calories, Activity.10 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
But why wouldn't you consider walking a dog "purposeful" exercise? Again, I burn up to or even more than 300 calories every day, JUST from that simple, slow activity. I'm not exaggerating my numbers, it's a fact. So you can call it exercise, call it working out, call it walking the dog.....doesn't matter. Activity is activity. If it burns calories, Activity.
Agreed. The vast majority of my mother's activity is not purposeful and she always hovers around Underweight because she gets so much of it.7 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
Calories in, calories out. eat less, move more. I'm not sure what there is to argue about here? If you move, you burn calories, who cares if it's not the same activity you choose to do? Who cares if its not the same effort you choose to do it at? We are all different and need to find activity in whatever form we can fit into our lives.4 -
I always loathed exercise, and that is because I'm older and was a young adult when Jane Fonda was all the rage and to be exercising meant that you had to be on the verge of exhaustion to be accomplishing anything with it.
A few years back I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, and exercise was no longer an optional thing. I have to move or I stiffen up. I started out with just walking. Then I added dieting.
But there were years before that where I dieted off and on and lost weight and if you had told me that I had to exercise I never would have even tried.
Now I love exercise, because people know better and are told to take a slower, measured approach. I'm a runner and I lift weights and am very active.
But I'm the first person to tell people who say they hate exercise that they don't need to do anything formal... just add activity to their daily lives. Pace while they're on the phone, make two trips to the car instead of one bringing in groceries, be inefficient putting away the laundry and make more trips with it. Start there. If you move around more, you might find that the idea of walking down to the corner isn't so bad after all, and after that, maybe around the block doesn't seem like a bad idea.
Exercise doesn't have to be arduous, it doesn't have to mean sweating buckets and huffing and puffing. You can take small steps and build up slowly to something you can tolerate if you think you hate it. You never have to be out of breath or in pain. Believe it or not, you can build yourself up to the point where one day, that huffing and puffing actually feels good to you. But you never have to start there.
A lot of people who think they hate it hate it because of those things and there aren't enough people who tell them that they can take it slowly and gradually and build up. There are plenty who are ready to tell them they're terrible for not exercising, though.11 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
Yes, I want to debate with you for exercise shaming people.
Dog walking is fine exercise. There's no need to be snobbish about it.
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JustMissTracy wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
But why wouldn't you consider walking a dog "purposeful" exercise? Again, I burn up to or even more than 300 calories every day, JUST from that simple, slow activity. I'm not exaggerating my numbers, it's a fact. So you can call it exercise, call it working out, call it walking the dog.....doesn't matter. Activity is activity. If it burns calories, Activity.
That's exactly my point.
If you're walking, you're walking.
Additionally, the other poster is making a lot of assumptions regarding speed and such. Who says how fast you're walking with the dog vs. without?
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.4 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
Yes, I want to debate with you for exercise shaming people.
Dog walking is fine exercise. There's no need to be snobbish about it.
I didn't shame anyone. Show me where I made any disparaging comment? I did no such thing. I will now leave you to make more absurd comments. I hope the rest of your day is about as nice as you are!
P.S. Choosing to ignore the difference is regular daily activity and greater physical activity for the purpose of better physical fitness and greater calorie burn (AKA purposeful exercise) does not remove the difference.1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog? Are you seriously saying that walking a dog doesn't require effort and improve physical and mental factors?
Note: I don't own a dog, but I have walked my grandparent's shepherd when I was younger.
We walk our dogs because the dogs need exercise as well. So the 4 of us get exercise (2 people, 2 dogs).
And I really don't care if how it is labelled. It burns 200-300 calories and get me out moving.6 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
Well, for one, when I walk alone I pick up poop absolutely never.
And the dogs are always wanting to stop and sniff stuff. Without them I just walk solid without stopping.2 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
I will reiterate, how is walking a dog not directed at improvement of physical and mental factors?
You are indirectly shaming people who get their daily activity through dog walking by implying their efforts don't count towards these goals.
You seem to have some sort of idea that the motive for walking makes some difference to how your body counts the activity. I find that really weird.9 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
Well, for one, when I walk alone I pick up poop absolutely never.
And the dogs are always wanting to stop and sniff stuff. Without them I just walk solid without stopping.
LOL..mine too. He needs to smell every leaf, every bush, every car....2 -
I put on my running shoes and workout clothes to walk my Aussie, is that purposeful?
All I know is he lays on the floor for hrs after our 2 mile walks so I know at least he got exercise:)6 -
Hungry_Shopgirl wrote: »I 100% agree that being in a calorie deficit is all it takes to lose weight.
But when I read on the boards people telling others who are struggling to make time to work out "You don't need exercise to lose weight" I cringe a little....mostly because in my own case it all started with exercise.
I started swimming, and wanted to be better at it so I took up C25K, then figured eating better would probably help with both, bringing me to the calorie deficit that put me into the "normal weight" BMI for the first time in my adult life. Even now, exercising is the engine for me. If I'm working out, I WANT to eat well. If not, I don't care.
So perhaps there are other "latent" athletes out there for whom the advice to make time to work out could be the trigger that changes everything, and we're discouraging that by saying "Nah, don't worry about it, just eat less".
Thoughts?
That's not what most people are really saying or advocating for though...they're simply pointing out that it isn't necessary...but most will also add that they should exercise for overall health and well being.7 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
You did not read the entire comment or you choose not to understand. Putting forth a greater effort in PURPOSEFUL exercise is NOT the same as a walk with a dog or with out a dog at a slower pace using less effort. Again, you know that. You just want to argue with someone.
No matter what the purpose is; exercise is exercise. If you read my second comment it contains the dictionary definition of the word "exercise" for you.3 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »I dont exercize, iv lost 54lbs. I walk to the shops and walk the dog, look after my toddler and work....I.dont really stop all day. So theres no chance in hell im getting up at 4am to do a run or wasting precious evenings at the gym when I dont need to. U dont need exercize to lose weight or to be healthy.
"I don't exercize"
but
"I walk to the shops and walk the dog"
So you do exercise...............
There is a difference in exercise for the purpose of exercise, calorie burn, gaining physical stamina, strength and endurance and traveling somewhere on foot for an entirely different purpose. Purposeful exercise will likely come with an effort which is directed at improvement of many physical and mental factors. You know that though.
What is different between a walk with the dog and a walk without the dog?
Well, for one, when I walk alone I pick up poop absolutely never.
And the dogs are always wanting to stop and sniff stuff. Without them I just walk solid without stopping.
LOL..mine too. He needs to smell every leaf, every bush, every car....
Well, my husky WANTED to stop and smell everything we still accomplished brisk walks despite what he wanted
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