Different words for the same things depending on which country you're in.
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And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
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And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
Your Australian husband is making you cheese on toast. Have you asked him for a toasted cheese sandwich? (I'd make that how you describe, or in a sandwich press... Same result!)0 -
And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
Now I want a grilled cheese...1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
Your Australian husband is making you cheese on toast. Have you asked him for a toasted cheese sandwich? (I'd make that how you describe, or in a sandwich press... Same result!)
But the difference between a toasted cheese sandwich and a grilled cheese sandwich is the butter on the outside of the bread. Frying the butter on the outside of the bread makes it all crispy, and if you're lucky, the cheese will melt and drizzle out onto the frying pan just a little bit and it will fry too.
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
Your Australian husband is making you cheese on toast. Have you asked him for a toasted cheese sandwich? (I'd make that how you describe, or in a sandwich press... Same result!)
But the difference between a toasted cheese sandwich and a grilled cheese sandwich is the butter on the outside of the bread. Frying the butter on the outside of the bread makes it all crispy, and if you're lucky, the cheese will melt and drizzle out onto the frying pan just a little bit and it will fry too.
"toasted cheese sandwich with butter on the outside" - problem solved!
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Christine_72 wrote: »Oh the booze thing.. You can buy alcohol in tegular grocery stores in America/Canada right?
we call the booze shop a bottlo (bottle-o), short for bottle shop . Aussies have a knack of shortening words.
As others have said, it depends upon the state. In Arizona you can buy beer/wine and any/every type of hard liquor in grocery stores, but all alcohol sales are prohibited from 2:00 - 6:00 am (California's liquor laws are identical to that also). Most grocery stores offer a pretty extensive selection of liquors (vodka, whiskey, rum, tequila, gin, etc.). You can also buy beer/wine in many gas stations/"mini mart" convenience stores, but they don't always offer hard liquor.
Trivia sidenote: You can't legally buy Everclear (pure grain alcohol, 190 proof) in California, but you can in Arizona. California's upper limit for alcohol is 151 proof, so Everclear came out with a 151 version that's legal in California. In Googling it, there are 14 states which prohibit the sale of 190 proof Everclear, while the remaining 36 states allow it.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »And while we're on the topic of cheese, this is a grilled cheese sandwich. It is made by buttering one side of a piece of bread and placing it carefully onto a hot frying pan, butter side down. Then you place your cheese onto the bread, and top it with another piece of bread that is also buttered on the outside. When the bread touching the frying pan is a golden brown, you flip it. When that side is golden brown, you're done! Delicious!!
When I say that I want a grilled cheese sandwich, my Australian husband using that odd grill thing on the stove (like a top drawer), puts some cheese on bread and toasts it. That's OK ... but it is just not a grilled cheese sandwich.
Now I want a grilled cheese...
So do I!
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Christine_72 wrote: »Oh the booze thing.. You can buy alcohol in regular grocery stores in America/Canada right?
we call the booze shop a bottlo (bottle-o), short for bottle shop . Aussies have a knack of shortening words.
I don't think you can buy booze in any grocery stores in Canada. I'm not sure about out eat.
I was surprised when some movie theatres started serving beers. Wasn't expecting that.
Drinking age... It's 18 in Alberta, Manitoba, and I think Quebec. In the other provinces it is 19.
Oh. Driver's licenses are at 16 in Alberta but you can get your learners permit at 14... This freaks me out since my 14 year old is only 5'2" and 90 lbs. LOL0 -
We usually buy white cheddar cheese (Alberta, Canada) but I do see orange a lot, especially in convenience stores. I raerly see extra old cheddar that is orange so maybe that's it. We go for as strong a cheese as we can afford.There are cheese slices (the plastic-wrapped things) of course, but this is what cheddar cheese looks like in Canada ... perhaps even darker orange sometimes.
And this, which I never see here in Australia, is marble cheese - white and orange cheddar ...
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"?
Oh, you poor thing - you don't know what you're missing!
Walking into a proper British chippy is to be hit with one of the best smells in the world...
I think it's the same as a Fish Fry here.
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
You're in the Great Lakes area and you don't know what a fish and chips shop is?
Battered fish on top of or beside hot chips!
We call that a Fish Fry with a side of Fries here in Western NY. Never seen "Fish n Chips" on any menu anywhere0 -
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Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.0 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »
Eh...a fish fry is an event (most popular during Lent). I wouldn't see a plate with fried fish and fries and call it a fish fry. I'd call it fish and fries or fish n' chips (even though I certainly don't call fries chips).2 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
You're in the Great Lakes area and you don't know what a fish and chips shop is?
Battered fish on top of or beside hot chips!
We call that a Fish Fry with a side of Fries here in Western NY. Never seen "Fish n Chips" on any menu anywhere
I have, since I was a little kid (in the '70s) and in lots of different states.
Here are some local recommendations for me: http://chicago.eater.com/maps/best-fish-and-chips-chicago-map
A fish fry is what we call the dinners my church hosts as a social thing on Fridays during Lent.2 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.
Captain D's??
Thought you lived in the Great Lakes region?0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.
Captain D's??
Thought you lived in the Great Lakes region?
Maybe he meant at the bottom of the Great Lakes? @KeithWhiteJr do you live in a pineapple, and your closest neighbour is a pink starfish?5 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »
Eh...a fish fry is an event (most popular during Lent). I wouldn't see a plate with fried fish and fries and call it a fish fry. I'd call it fish and fries or fish n' chips (even though I certainly don't call fries chips).
Yes ... to me also, a fish fry is an event.
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I'm a Great Laker, but a veg, and even I understand what fish'n'chips is. We used to have Long John Silvers (out of business locally now AFAIK, though). Fish fry also make sense as an event name, e.g., "The Lions' Club is having a fish fry!" or "Saturday is fish fry night at the diner!", though the chips/fries part might be optional, not needed to justify the name. Wait, what am I saying? Fries come with everything here. Everything. With coleslaw as an optional alternate, mostly. (
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Carlos_421 wrote: »To get us back on track...
"Broiling" is something I was thinking about last night. It wasn't a word I was familiar with before emigrating, and due to the similarity with the word "boiling" I figured it meant the same thing. Good job I looked it up before I tried doing that with a recipe! Turns out that broiling is what I'd call grilling.
To me (a Brit), "grilling" is what you do under the grill of your oven, i.e. the top heating element, which is a broiler on this side of the Pond. Grilling to North Americans seems to refer almost exclusively to cooking on an outdoor grill (something they do even when it's below freezing in Canada!), which is what I'd refer to as "barbecuing".
To add to the confusion, a "grilled cheese sandwich" is not cooked under the grill/broiler (like a toasted cheese sandwich, which I used to make often in the UK), but is instead spread with butter on the outsides and cooked in a frying pan.
Which, by the way, is called a "skillet".
Argh!
Barbecue is a particular type of food. Slow cooked meat (either grilled (as in on a grill) or smoked) coated with (or dipped in) barbecue sauce. To barbecue is to prepare such food. Barbecuing can be a type of grilling but isn't always. Likewise, not all grilling is barbecuing (I.e. Burgers are not barbecue and thus they are grilled, not barbecued).
A barbecue can also be a gathering/party centered around preparing and eating barbecue. The same type of gathering which involves grilling non-barbecue food (burgers and hotdogs) is called grilling out.
I take BBQ very seriously.
And I use frying pan and skillet interchangeably.
Never used skillet for a frying pan. A paint skillet is the tin with paint and a wire handle to carry it.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I would be most pissed off if i asked for coke and they gave me a pepsi, or anything other than what i asked for, which is coke
They actually taste a bit different although the same colour. (My apologies, I can't drop the u from that word like my American friends.)0 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »I expect coke when I ask for coke too.... If someone gave me a Pepsi, they could have it back!
Not food... But is anyone a musician?
UK/Australia vs USA note types
Quaver = eighth note
Crotchet = quarter note
Minim = half note
Semibreve = whole note
Yes, that's very confusing when I hear it. I learnt quaver, crotchet, minim, semibreve.1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »
Eh...a fish fry is an event (most popular during Lent). I wouldn't see a plate with fried fish and fries and call it a fish fry. I'd call it fish and fries or fish n' chips (even though I certainly don't call fries chips).
A fish Fry isn't usually an event here. Its usually a meal. It's battered and fried fish served with coleslaw and french fries, and sometimes a roll.
EDIT: Here is what Wikipedia says about it...
"In the United States, the dish is most commonly sold as "fish and chips", except in Upstate New York and Wisconsin and other parts of the Northeast and Upper Midwest, where this dish would be called a fish fry."2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.
Captain D's??
Thought you lived in the Great Lakes region?
Maybe he meant at the bottom of the Great Lakes? @KeithWhiteJr do you live in a pineapple, and your closest neighbour is a pink starfish?
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Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.
Captain D's??
Thought you lived in the Great Lakes region?
Never heard of Captain D's either lol.
I'm in the Great Lakes region. I live in Buffalo.0 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know what poutine is, but every time i see that word i think of a bum, or butt/fanny depending where you're from
Chips, with cheese curds and a gravy on top. It's a Canadian dish...we had some piping hot and fresh, so good (but bad at the same time) . Ive seen some poor replications in aus using cheddar cheese.
Chips as in French Fries for those in the US/Canada lol
In the US, chips come in a bag and are flavored with BBQ, Salt and Vinegar or Cheddar and Sour Cream. What is a "Fish n Chip Shop"? I assume that's a restaurant that specializes in making a fish fry that is sitting on top of french fries?
Long John Silvers bro.
A slew of casual American restaurants have Fish 'n Chips on the menu these days too.
No Long John Silvers here lol.
Captain D's??
Thought you lived in the Great Lakes region?
Never heard of Captain D's either lol.
I'm in the Great Lakes region. I live in Buffalo.
Here are some places that apparently have fish and chips ...
https://www.zomato.com/buffalo/restaurants/fish-and-chips0 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »KeithWhiteJr wrote: »
Eh...a fish fry is an event (most popular during Lent). I wouldn't see a plate with fried fish and fries and call it a fish fry. I'd call it fish and fries or fish n' chips (even though I certainly don't call fries chips).
A fish Fry isn't usually an event here. Its usually a meal. It's battered and fried fish served with coleslaw and french fries, and sometimes a roll.
EDIT: Here is what Wikipedia says about it...
"In the United States, the dish is most commonly sold as "fish and chips", except in Upstate New York and Wisconsin and other parts of the Northeast and Upper Midwest, where this dish would be called a fish fry."
Don't know about Upstate NY and I'd believe anything of Wisconsin (kidding, sort of), but I'm technically in the upper Midwest (Chicago), and a fish fry is always an event here, with the dish being fish & chips. That's what I recall of Michigan too (I went to school there).
Oh, on other matters, I call that pan a skillet, although I'd know what someone meant with "frying pan."0 -
Another one is the Nanaimo Bar ... a staple in my diet when I lived in Canada. I've been known to eat them by the pan full.
But I have also heard them called New York Slice.
And here in Australia, the closest we get are Peppermint Slices or Caramel Slices, neither of which really captures the deliciousness of a Nanaimo Bar. OK, they don't even come close, but they kind of look like a flavoured Nanaimo Bar from a distance.
http://www.foodnetwork.ca/shows/great-canadian-cookbook/blog/history-of-nanaimo-bars/
And speaking of Caramel Slices, in Scotland, those are called Millionaire Bars and the Scottish makers of Millionaire Bars have got it. They know how to make the things. In fact Millionaire Bars are almost tied with Nanaimo Bars on my list of greatest slices and bars.
I just wish Australia would figure out how to make these things. What they do produce looks tempting in the display of the bakery ... but they're dry rocks in comparison with a Canadian Nanaimo Bar and a Scottish Millionaire Bar.
Well, maybe it's a good thing Australian baked goods are like that or I'd be tempted to eat a whole lot more of them!
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