January 2017 Running Challenge
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slowly slowly catch a monkey
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1/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.0
2/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4.3
3/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,Rest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4.3
4/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,6.6
5/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,9.2
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7/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,Rest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,9.2
8/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.6,,,,,,,,,,,,,,11.8
9/1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2.9,,,,,,,,,,,,,,14.7![exercise.png[\img]](https://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wg0CHq8/exercise.png[\img])
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@juliet3455 @lporter229 Thanks for the reply on hill repeats. I think I'll stick with the one close to home for the interval repeats on the training plan (independent of the occasional fun trip to the mountains with the real elevation when there isn't too much ice). I'll aim for something between 10k and HM pace next time, that should be hard enough
@MobyCarp Awesome time for the half, congratulations!
@MNLittleFinn I'm glad your Achilles is already feeling better; hopefully the PT will be able to give you some advice on how to avoid it from getting worse / coming back.
@JessicaMcB That's a very sweet sabouteur you have Love the picture!
@Orphia Congratulations on the great 10k time!!
Don't ever move to my corner of the world if you are disappointed about the lack of a medal - I've only got medals for 2 out of 9 races last year, it just doesn't seem to be very common here to give medals to anyone except the age group winners.
If the 9.9km are because Strava "smoothed" off some corners and it bothers you too much, you could try fixing it with SNAP. Otherwise, what you ran in reality counts more than what Strava thinks
@lporter229 A bit too later for this long run, but maybe for the next time: if it's so cold you are worried about frost bite, maybe you can split the run in two parts and warm up a little in between? 12+4mi with half an hour break in between aren't the same as 16mi, but still closer than 12mi alone if you are really worried about the missing distance.
@AdrianChr92 No power for 48 hours sounds pretty bad. I hope you had some way to keep warm!
(reminds me I need to get a new gas bottle for the stove...)
@lissadecker Fergus and George are both very cute!
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I had a nice sunny run on Sunday. The temperatures climbed 10°C (almost 20°F) literally overnight. The sunny patches of the road I could actually run without gloves; in the shadows it was still too cold for that. So I ended up putting them on/off every 5min or so... Still nicer than freezing all the way
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@_nikkiwolf_ I live in the countryside and everyone around here has huge stoves made of terracotta/ceramics that get really hot with just a little wood and keeps the room warm for quite a while. Back in the days everyone had one because there was no way to heat your home without wood around here. So heat wasn't a problem.
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went finally to ride today, but I managed to do only 20km, then again -2C and a very annoying cross wind, so had to cut the ride, I have to confess that I was not mentally relaxed as I didn't want to compromise my trip tomorrow, and when you feel like that it's when something happens, so I think I took the right decision - see you in 2 weeks dear bike, hoping weather will improve or at least it doesnt' get worse when I'm out
quick change of clothes, one nespresso, and then I went to run for a 10k - despite my 17miles yesterday, I felt very very good, cycling (what's the difference between riding and cycling btw?) made my legs relaxed
9 miles planned for tomorrow morning, then airport and in 245654 hours I'll be in Japan and I'll see what I can do there, ideally I'd like to run everyday, but if not no probs, there is no way I can plan now and "rest" will only be beneficial (ramen ramen ramen ramen ramen)1 -
So disappointed I am unable to run right now!!! I have a nasty chest cold and it is -12C here right now. Once my chest feels better I have some mileage to make up.0
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@patrikc333 - safe travels! Riding is just cruising along. Cycling or biking is intense pedaling! Just my opinion. I love how when I go cycling it feels like it heals my running legs and the same when I run after a weekend of heavy riding.
@adrianchr92 - what a cool looking stove. Or I guess I should say a hot looking stove.
Beautiful 41 degrees this morning for my run! These cool mornings are so rare here in Orlando the last couple years that I have to relish each one! We even had a "wear jeans to school day" ... which is rare. The weird thing was I saw not one single car. Usually there are 5 cars each morning and 3-4 people. I only saw one person -- someone getting his newspaper. For a few seconds I contemplated... was I left behind? Then I laughed at myself and said NO! I guess the cold is keeping everyone in bed!
1/1 - rest day (recovering from stomach virus)
1/2 - 40 mile bike ride
1/3 - 4 miles
1/4 - 4.1 miles
1/5 - rest day
1/6 - 5 miles
1/7 - 4 miles
1/8 - 5 miles
1/9 - 4 miles
Upcoming races
2/5/17 - Daytona Beach HM
2/26/17 - Disney Princess HM Orlando
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@juliet3455 Most people have electric heat in the South and they are heat pumps, they just can't keep up when it's only 20F out. Of course with no electric completely out of luck. I do have friend who have fire places so I could find a warm place if I needed one. Luckily at least Saturday it was sunny and the back of my house faces South and has lots of windows so it warms up nice inside. The heat runs all night though non stop. I love the idea of putting hand warmers inbetween the layers of socks, I never would have thought of that.
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@MNLittleFinn sorry hear about your calf issue and hope you get it resolved in time for marathon training.
@kristinegift those look like beautiful trails! Cute pix! and great race!
@OSUbuckeye906 so sorry about your injury!! The chance to see a distance endurance PT is pretty cool though!
@orphia parkruns just sound cool all around, glad you're enjoying them! And what an awesome race time!!
@skippygirlsmom awesome photo of you and Skip!
@michable happy anniversary!!
@MobyCarp great job on on the half!
@lporter229 I don't know what my maximum sub zero is yet but yesterday I ran 16.1 miles at -6F wind chill, the last of which into the wind. The only thing on me that was cold was my hands. I need to remember to bring an extra set of gloves for when the first pair get too sweaty. I can't imagine my legs getting frostbite even though I only had thin tights on. Just too much mass making too much heat but I have big thighs. Much depends on the wind speed but if were really cold I'd plan for a shorter route but multiple loops so I could easily bail out if needed.
@Elise4270 when I was a kid I didn't lose an ear but I did freeze my ear lobe walking a couple of miles in subzero weather. My earlobe was sticking out between my hat and scarf. If felt like an ice cube when I got home and holy *kitten* did it hurt when it thawed out!!! I didn't lose it, but the skin did peel off in a painful way.
@lissadecker I love Fergus & George!
@NikolaosKey glad your feeling better!
@bmelb1 That's very disappointing! I joined a winter running group last winter which had two routes, a 3 mile and a 7 mile. I wanted the 7 mile run but the 7 mile runners were much faster than me so I always ran by myself and was always the last person back to the store which hosted the run. By then the post-run social time was winding down. I'm not joining that group this year.
@patrikc333 glad it was only a near miss! Were you wearing an HR monitor, and did it register?1 -
01/07 6.5 - gorgeous sunny day for a run! 5F with very little wind. Even running it easy my last half pace was 8:40. I should have done my long run on this day.
01/08 16.1 - cutback week long run. 10F but windier than I expected for a -6F wind chill. I ran an out & back and the first half with a cross wind. At 8 miles I popped into a gas station for water and when I got out the wind had shifted and I was running into the wind for an effective wind chill of -10F. Though I was fairly sweaty, the only part of me that got cold was my hands. Normal mittens would have been too warms but I wonder if I can find some uninsulated mittens...like a shell. One modification I made to my cold weather running outfit was to take an extra buff, fold it up and strategically place it in my tights. That kept the delicate bits a little more comfortable.
I hate to say this with so many in our group battling injury, but one thing that stood out for me this weekend is that I didn't feel any pain in my calf/Achilles at all. I need to remember to be thankful for that during every pain free run, and be sure not to push it so I can avoid injury. The last few weeks have been going very well for me and that's probably due to the week off I took for pheasant hunting.
Rest day today then back at it tomorrow. Happy running, all!
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Time for my rant. Garmin blows when it comes to calorie calculations, at least for the FR220. It is so inconsistent. Here's my splits from yesterday. Some splits are missing because I accidentally hit the lap button a couple of times. Only full mile splits are shown below.
If I go by the standard calculation of Calories/mile = 0.63 x weight (lbs) I get 135 calories. (for a flat grade).
The first mile is above that, likely because my HR always spikes in that first mile, but how can my calorie split vary so wildly? On long runs Garmin always starts dropping my calories towards the end. I guess since I'm trying lose weight I should go with what it tells me, but the results have caused me to lose faith in the numbers.
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Jan 1-5.3 miles
Jan 2- Rest day- P90X3 yoga
Jan 3- 6 miles w/ 3 @ tempo
Jan 4-5.1 miles (1 with crazy Stella)
Jan 5-5 miles treadmill fartlek run
Jan 6- 4 miles total -1 mile warm up outside with Stella then 3 miles of intervals on dreadmill
Jan 7-7.7 miles
Jan 8-14 miles
Thanks @skippygirlsmom for those links and to everyone else who responded to my question. Lots of great info in those links. It's always good to be smart about running in extreme weather. I did manage to get out for 14 miles yesterday afternoon. I waited until 11:30 when the temps warmed up a bit. It was 13F with wind chills in the single digits, so not nearly as cold as my Saturday run and a bit warmer than I was expecting. The sun was even melting the snow in some places on the road. I wore two pairs of gloves with hand warmers inside and ended up ditching the hand warmers at mile 5. This was completely unexpected because my hands are usually what is numb and cold. All in all, the run wasn't too bad. There was a definite difference when running into the wind though, and since I was a bit wet, that was really the only time I was uncomfortable. I could have easily finished up my 16, but I was back in my subdivision at 13 and didn't feel like doing three miles of cul de sac torture when I was cold and wet, just for the sake of getting in the extra miles. I know in past years I would have sucked it up and lumbered through those last 2 miles. Maybe I am maturing as a runner or maybe I am just becoming lazy, I'm not sure which, but I felt like I had accomplished the point of my run and didn't really have any reason to keep going. Plus, the Steelers were playing!
@lissadecker - OMG, Fergus and George are so cute! Fergus looks like a natural runner!
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Morning non-functional check in. Achilles/calf feel about 90% today. Also, got referral for PT should hear from them by the end of the week. Go figure, I start feeling better and then get the referral. Still going to make thr appt when they contact me. I figure it's good to get checked out even if I'm feeling better.
Planning to try a 1-3 mile run tomorrow. Plan is if I feel any pain, I stop and walk. I'll be starting early enough that I could walk most of it and still be done on time. Hoping rest and icing has taken care of it, but we'll see. Seeing thr PT will be a big help I think.3 -
@patrikc333 - I am no expert in terminology, but I suspect the difference between riding and cycling is like the difference between running and jogging. I'm a runner. To me, jogging is recovery between speed intervals. (Insert joke of choice about difference between runners and joggers.)
I am not a cyclist. The serious cyclists will blow right past me. I might get out an ride a few times, and I won't feel the least bit insulted to be called a bike rider and not a cyclist.
@7lenny7 - It's not just Garmin. All calorie burned calculations are trash in terms of telling me how much I can eat. None of them are accurate enough, so I ignore them all and just watch what the scale does. I can't always tell why I need to eat more or eat less to make the weight trend sideways, but I can record the daily weight, see a trend, and take appropriate action.
@MNLittleFinn - Glad to hear you're feeling better. If you're still feeling pretty good when you see the PT, ask what you can do to make that persist. In 20-20 hindsight, I notice that my Achilles problem happened in the wake of letting my final two months of work squeeze all the one-leg weighted calf raises out of my routine. They're back in the routine again, along with a couple things the PT gave me.1 -
Our temps are on the rise and I'm hoping for a short run after work but it's gonna be a windy one
Both today and tomorrow.
I saw a guy ride by my office this morning on a bike that had tiny wheels. I love seeing interesting bikes. One guy rides a unicycle downtown
@MNLittleFinn Good luck with the PT.
I really struggled with asthma over the weekend so I think next time our temps plummet to single degree wind or otherwise, I should wear a buff to warm the air I'm breathing in. Frustrating because summer heat sets it off too. Rarely is the weather just right for running
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Hey! It may actually be warm enough to walk outside at lunch today. God I hate walking laps around the atrium!
@MNLittleFinn good luck with the PT. I've been having very slight pains in my right Achilles, which has me a little concerned. I've had three days of rest and it seems to be feeling better now. Fingers crossed.2 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »@juliet3455 Most people have electric heat in the South and they are heat pumps, they just can't keep up when it's only 20F out.
Funny story... my son used to be obsessed with heat pumps. Here in the Chicago area, they are pretty rare so whenever we found one he would be so happy, and want to take a video of it. He would also watch heat pump videos on YouTube. My son is very mechanically minded, and he tells me he hopes to study Mechanical Engineering in college. He loves to know how things work, and heat pumps were a particular favorite.3 -
@lporter229 that's an interesting problem. We don't have Sub zero temps very often or for very long. Im sure there are some sub zero weather runners that will chime in.
I have no experience. But I came across information a few years ago, because when I started running in 30°F, mentally it was sub zero, now 30 is perfect running weather. Anyhow, I came across one person that bought ski gear to run in. I'm not sure if that's the same as the thermal leggings your friend used, or if there were layers involved. What about the under garments for skiing? Chili Willie's or hot somethings?
Sorry for the rambling... wish I had a real answer. I am anxious to hear others experiences.
Here's RW's take in -10 (not sure if that's c/f) https://www.google.com/amp/www.runnersworld.com/ask-the-sports-doc/tips-for-running-in-sub-zero-weather?amp
ETA when I was a kid there was this urban legend of a kid on a bike whose ear froze off because he didn't have a hat on. Texas. No kid ever had a winter hat..
I know I'm late to respond to the question about running in the cold, but my thoughts are if I'd ski in the weather, I can certainly run in it. Now, I wouldn't wear what I wear to ski (Ski jacket and snowpants) to run in. I'd get way too hot. A lot of downhill skiing is time spent riding on the chairlifts, which are very cold. When you're actually skiing, you get warmed up pretty good. I'd ski in windchills down to -10 F. When it gets cold for running, I wear my hot chilly ski socks (they are very long and cover the shins), running tights with fleece lined running pants as an outer layer, 1 or 2 long sleeve tech shirts depending on how cold, fleece jacket, windbreaker as my exterior layer, neck warmer, fleece headband and a hat (my ears get cold easy) and glove liner with another pair of thicker gloves. I've worn this in windchill temps of -2 F and was very comfortable.0 -
BeeerRunner wrote: »I know I'm late to respond to the question about running in the cold, but my thoughts are if I'd ski in the weather, I can certainly run in it.
Interesting. I was with the Army at Ft. Wainwright, Alaska for several years in the late 80s/early 90s. The ski slope on post would close all operations if the air temp was colder than -10, but we were required to run outdoors for PT unless the air temp was colder than -20 (but, that said, we didn't run very far at those temps and we got to do every other part of PT indoors).
Reflections on running at -20 and skiing at -10: neither is a very pleasant outing, lol, but with the right attire the running was less unpleasant. Being on a chairlift in the extreme cold is just brutal. Mix in even a slight wind and it's downright torture.0 -
1/9 - 4 mi.
Jan. Total: 27.5/90
Well, it's a Monday in every sense of the word. A balmy 4 degrees here in Maine. Took morning off to meet plumber at my house for an installation and they had to reschedule last minute (grrr). Then had a crappy work-related phone call and a feeling of general gloom settled over me. On the plus side...channelled my frustration by running on the treadmill and ran my best time yet! Take that Monday!!!2 -
January goal: 100 miles
1/1: 3.6 miles (m)
1/2: Downpour Day
1/3: 4.5 miles (m)
1/4: 4 miles (m)
1/5: 5 miles (m)
1/6: 4.5 miles (m)
1/7: 4 miles (m)
1/8: 6 miles (m)
1/9: Rest Day
My Total/January: 31.6 miles
Mike's Total: 31.7 miles
Taking a rest day today but had a nice 6 mile afternoon run with Mike and Fergus yesterday. I actually did the second mile in under 11 minutes (10:49) which is pretty darned fast for me. The other 5 were all under 12 minutes per mile each so I am feeling pretty good about the whole run, especially considering that I was at 13-14 minutes per mile just a few months ago. Again, I have not really been actively trying to get faster; I think it is just a by-product of working on good form and being persistent. I'm sure the cooler temps and lower humidity are helping, too. Still, I'll take it!
Looks like I am going to have to scrap my plans for the Choco Loco race this month. We've hit a bit of a rough patch financially and I just don't have the budget for entry fees right now. It is disappointing, but it isn't like it keeps me from running.
@AdrianChr92 That stove is lovely!
@bmelb1 I hope you get better resolution on those clinics. What a bummer! Try not to let it get you down and certainly don't let it stop you!
@ddmom0811 I agree with you wholeheartedly on the cooler temps! We rarely get them here in Houston either and the past week has been such great running weather most of the time...especially when the humidity has dropped along with the temp! Enjoy it while you can!
@lporter229 Fergus is most definitely a natural runner. You can't really tell from the picture, but his back end is built like a greyhound's. He has got some giddy-up, for sure. We've gone as long as 7 miles with him and he was still bouncing around and wanting to go further. Of course, we are running pretty slow compared to what he can do. Still, I have no idea at what point we would max out his distance. At the moment, we poop out long before he does so it isn't really a concern!
Have a fabulous rest of the day!
Completed Races:
12/3 Snowball Run 5K, Kingwood TX (35:34.2) *PR
Upcoming Races:
1/22 Choco Loco 10K, Houston, TX
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RespectTheKitty wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »@juliet3455 Most people have electric heat in the South and they are heat pumps, they just can't keep up when it's only 20F out.
Funny story... my son used to be obsessed with heat pumps. Here in the Chicago area, they are pretty rare so whenever we found one he would be so happy, and want to take a video of it. He would also watch heat pump videos on YouTube. My son is very mechanically minded, and he tells me he hopes to study Mechanical Engineering in college. He loves to know how things work, and heat pumps were a particular favorite.
@respectthekitty he can have my heat pump ha ha!! When I lived in Jersey the first thing I did when I brought my house was have gas hot water baseboard heat installed (it had electric forced hot air). I talked to a few people about gas here and they think I'm insane. When I stand under my ducts when the heat comes on it's actually chilly, how the heck can that heat my house. I did have to replace the unit a couple years ago and it did make a big difference on the efficiency of the unit.
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Calvin2008Brian wrote: »BeeerRunner wrote: »I know I'm late to respond to the question about running in the cold, but my thoughts are if I'd ski in the weather, I can certainly run in it.
Interesting. I was with the Army at Ft. Wainwright, Alaska for several years in the late 80s/early 90s. The ski slope on post would close all operations if the air temp was colder than -10, but we were required to run outdoors for PT unless the air temp was colder than -20 (but, that said, we didn't run very far at those temps and we got to do every other part of PT indoors).
Reflections on running at -20 and skiing at -10: neither is a very pleasant outing, lol, but with the right attire the running was less unpleasant. Being on a chairlift in the extreme cold is just brutal. Mix in even a slight wind and it's downright torture.
Also note that the reason I'm skiing in -10 is because I live in Texas and have traveled a long way to ski. If I lived near the slopes, I'd pass. Lol!! This year, I'm skiing in March so it should be nice and balmy!!
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I still have no miles for January due to illness, but am here creeping around regardless. Hoping to start easing back in tomorrow. I have a four mile prediction race, Dirty Snowflake, this weekend and only 12 weeks away from the Fools 25k. Patience with this virus is growing shorter by the minute.3
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@AdrianChr92 Neat stove! I'd love to have that in my house!
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1/4-2.48
1/5-2.39 miles & Pilates
1/6-Pilates
1/7-Rest day
1/8-Pilates
1/9-Pilates & 2.5 miles on the treadmill
@jennkain97 running barefoot? Does it hurt? I'm such a princess. I couldn't do it. I have this fear of something sticking to the bottom of my feet. I love the beach but I'm the person walking around in the sand on their tippy toes whining.
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Rest day today, only 3 miles in the snow at -17 Celsius
Date.......Distance
January 1 - 12.1 km
January 2 - 7.0 km
January 3 - 12.9+5.3 km
January 4 - 11.5 km
January 5 - 7.0 km
January 6 - 3.8 km
January 7 - 9.45 km
January 8 - 9.8+6.0 km
January 9 - 5.2 km
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@tdbernrd Your comment made me laugh. I'm a princess who never goes barefoot also
@melaniefay82 Sorry you've been ill!
@RespectTheKitty I walk "laps" through my building which is actually a zigzag from one side to the other. I have figured 1 full trip from front corner to opposite back corner AND BACK to be only a 1/10th mile. So I have to do 10 laps (or 20 single trips) to get 1 measly mile :-p I walk inside only when everyone else leaves. I can't walk outside because I have to answer the phone.1 -
@7lenny7 -I am always skeptical about calorie counts from any device. I no longer keep track of my calories burned from running. I spent enough time in maintenance while logging my food to pretty accurately assess my TDEE with running. If I average 35 mpw, I maintain my weight by eating a rough average of 1800 calories per day. When my weekly mileage starts to increase, I increase my daily calorie allowance proportionally by about 70 calories per mile (I weigh 100 lbs, so it works out). I have been maintaining this way for about 2 years. I continue to log my food because of other health issues and to ensure that I am eating enough to support my running. But the up side to this approach is that I no longer view my runs in terms of calories burned and I don't really tend to eat more on long run days than any other day of the week. Some days I am slightly over and other days I am under. For example, last week I was over 3 days and under 4, but I was 33 calories off from my weekly goal based on the 7 day average. I think spreading it out this way also helps a lot to keep me at a constant weight.4
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