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So. What's the worst weight loss myth?
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"All calories are equal." Nope!0
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chocolate_owl wrote: »Lots of great contestants thrown into the ring... Are we going to debate which one is truly the worst?
I think the whole carbs/added sugar being evil is by far the most pervasive and inane. There are some close seconds though.
CLEARLY processed carbs have wreaked havoc on public health. Next!0 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »SymbolismNZ wrote: »Absolute, positive worst one I've seen yet - a varied diet with everything in moderation is biomedically equivalent to recreational drug usage in terms of impact upon your health.
Yes, that just happened.
So before you go running around threads and quoting me, how about showing me that evidence where moderate use of marijuana, psilocybin or amphetamines creates evidence of damage to your health... as I pointed out, you can even use the tip of looking at how research papers talk about refined sugar and compare it to recreational drug use.
We're stuck in the 1950s here, where ingesting fat is a bad idea, where moderate marijuana causes long term brain damage and where refined sugar doesn't have an impact on your neural receptors, causing you to be at higher risk of craving more.
Nope, fats not bad, marijuana doesn't cause brain damage and sugar isn't addictive. Please come on. Tell me I'm reading this wrong!
Sugar IS addictive... for some people. Lots and lots of science backs it up as does my own personal experience.0 -
How about all of the products with labels that state they don't contain a particular ingredient that they never use for that product any way. I'm waiting to see fat-free flour, caffeine-free water, sugar-free lard...
YES!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing that crazy trend. I actually saw a nut mix labeled "gluten-free".1 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »SymbolismNZ wrote: »leanjogreen18 wrote: »Which is kinda my point...everything in moderation:).
Which is cool, like I said in the thread he's quoting, the point I made in that thread is that refined sugar itself has been linked to a number of health risks in oncogenes, neurological disorders and appetite disorders and therefore consuming it in moderation is very similar to a moderate drug user, i/e the genesis of this debate.
Yeah, no. Very few drugs are used in moderation. I would love to agree with you but just no. I've not once seen a post where folks go full on the bag of sugar if they run out of cookies nor have I seen folks attack bananas, or any fruit because they are out of sweets. Have I known of folks going after mouthwash or cough syrup when they are out of alcohol or drugs, oh yeah. Sorry I want to believe you but it's just not proven other than the anti sugar folks. Please really think long and hard, folks would full on go for not only bags of sugar but any fruit if this were true.
...I don't know, Jo....I have done things for the sugar...I'm not sugar if it's addictive to everyone...but I'm not proud of the things I have done for sugar. The low doses like apples do nothing (not strong enough). Its the hard core dried fruits and processed sugar sources that get me. I have gone after the bag of sugar or wheat or corn when my fix wasn't available...
This is my shame.
People who dont have a struggle really shouldnt state such a struggle does not exist. The sugar thing is about refined sugars, not fruit.0 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »"You shouldn't mix different types of protein because your body won't be able to digest them fully."
Guess I learned the difference between a nutritionist and a registered dietician. According to that nutritionist, proteins are different length chains, and if you mix your proteins, then your body will only ever be able to process them to the length of the shortest chain. So if the protein in Greek yogurt is 3 links long and the one in chicken 5, and you mix them together, your body will only digest 3/5 of the chicken's protein...
Guess how often I returned to that lady...
And who would ever eat chicken and greek yogurt???0 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »Don't eat it if you can't pronounce it.
Dang it, I love Thai food!2 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »"You shouldn't mix different types of protein because your body won't be able to digest them fully."
Guess I learned the difference between a nutritionist and a registered dietician. According to that nutritionist, proteins are different length chains, and if you mix your proteins, then your body will only ever be able to process them to the length of the shortest chain. So if the protein in Greek yogurt is 3 links long and the one in chicken 5, and you mix them together, your body will only digest 3/5 of the chicken's protein...
Guess how often I returned to that lady...
And who would ever eat chicken and greek yogurt???
I do... but then again... I make a wicked good Parmesan chicken where the chicken is marinated in Greek yogurt, garlic and thyme and then coated in Parmesan before it's baked in the oven for 30minutes. Bonus points that you can set the chicken to marinate the day before and shove in the oven when you get home after work.
Or grilled chicken breast with a garlic sauced made with Greek yogurt as a base?
It's called being creative while cooking...
This said... I need to go buy Parmesan, chicken and Greek yogurt...4 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »SymbolismNZ wrote: »leanjogreen18 wrote: »Which is kinda my point...everything in moderation:).
Which is cool, like I said in the thread he's quoting, the point I made in that thread is that refined sugar itself has been linked to a number of health risks in oncogenes, neurological disorders and appetite disorders and therefore consuming it in moderation is very similar to a moderate drug user, i/e the genesis of this debate.
Yeah, no. Very few drugs are used in moderation. I would love to agree with you but just no. I've not once seen a post where folks go full on the bag of sugar if they run out of cookies nor have I seen folks attack bananas, or any fruit because they are out of sweets. Have I known of folks going after mouthwash or cough syrup when they are out of alcohol or drugs, oh yeah. Sorry I want to believe you but it's just not proven other than the anti sugar folks. Please really think long and hard, folks would full on go for not only bags of sugar but any fruit if this were true.
...I don't know, Jo....I have done things for the sugar...I'm not sugar if it's addictive to everyone...but I'm not proud of the things I have done for sugar. The low doses like apples do nothing (not strong enough). Its the hard core dried fruits and processed sugar sources that get me. I have gone after the bag of sugar or wheat or corn when my fix wasn't available...
This is my shame.
People who dont have a struggle really shouldnt state such a struggle does not exist. The sugar thing is about refined sugars, not fruit.
Except that the sugar in fruit and the so called refined sugar are one and the same thing...10 -
i think the meal replacement shakes are a load of crap. i tried them it's obviously so unsustainable and as soon as you come off them and try to eat normal meals you just pile the weight on, i think they're more about gaining money than helping people lose weight.3
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ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »"You shouldn't mix different types of protein because your body won't be able to digest them fully."
Guess I learned the difference between a nutritionist and a registered dietician. According to that nutritionist, proteins are different length chains, and if you mix your proteins, then your body will only ever be able to process them to the length of the shortest chain. So if the protein in Greek yogurt is 3 links long and the one in chicken 5, and you mix them together, your body will only digest 3/5 of the chicken's protein...
Guess how often I returned to that lady...
And who would ever eat chicken and greek yogurt???
I do... but then again... I make a wicked good Parmesan chicken where the chicken is marinated in Greek yogurt, garlic and thyme and then coated in Parmesan before it's baked in the oven for 30minutes. Bonus points that you can set the chicken to marinate the day before and shove in the oven when you get home after work.
Or grilled chicken breast with a garlic sauced made with Greek yogurt as a base?
It's called being creative while cooking...
This said... I need to go buy Parmesan, chicken and Greek yogurt...
Yeah, I make a really good yogurt curry marinated chicken.2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »"You shouldn't mix different types of protein because your body won't be able to digest them fully."
Guess I learned the difference between a nutritionist and a registered dietician. According to that nutritionist, proteins are different length chains, and if you mix your proteins, then your body will only ever be able to process them to the length of the shortest chain. So if the protein in Greek yogurt is 3 links long and the one in chicken 5, and you mix them together, your body will only digest 3/5 of the chicken's protein...
Guess how often I returned to that lady...
And who would ever eat chicken and greek yogurt???
I do... but then again... I make a wicked good Parmesan chicken where the chicken is marinated in Greek yogurt, garlic and thyme and then coated in Parmesan before it's baked in the oven for 30minutes. Bonus points that you can set the chicken to marinate the day before and shove in the oven when you get home after work.
Or grilled chicken breast with a garlic sauced made with Greek yogurt as a base?
It's called being creative while cooking...
This said... I need to go buy Parmesan, chicken and Greek yogurt...
Yeah, I make a really good yogurt curry marinated chicken.
Sadly curry doesn't agree too well with my digestion... But that sounds delicious!0 -
Replace skinny with lean, and I'd say it's not a myth. If it weren't for the strength increases and anabolism that come with overfeeding, I'd never even lean bulk. I like abs and vascularity far more than I like food. Unfortunately, I like strength and muscle size increases more than abs and vascularity...within reason anyway.0 -
How about all of the products with labels that state they don't contain a particular ingredient that they never use for that product any way. I'm waiting to see fat-free flour, caffeine-free water, sugar-free lard...
YES!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing that crazy trend. I actually saw a nut mix labeled "gluten-free".
Nuts are often processed in facilities that also process wheat. (In Canada the label must say "may contain gluten" if it could have been in contact with gluten containing grains.) As a celiac, I have to pass over more nut products than I can safely eat. LOL4 -
ive had several people tell me fruit is bad for you, because of high carbs and sugars.
that low fat, low carb, and "sugar free" items are preferable to whole organic foods that are more nutrient dense (fats are not the enemy, but the way america packages it is a real issue for me).
and my favorite: do not eat kale, it will give you metallic poisoning!0 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »"You shouldn't mix different types of protein because your body won't be able to digest them fully."
Guess I learned the difference between a nutritionist and a registered dietician. According to that nutritionist, proteins are different length chains, and if you mix your proteins, then your body will only ever be able to process them to the length of the shortest chain. So if the protein in Greek yogurt is 3 links long and the one in chicken 5, and you mix them together, your body will only digest 3/5 of the chicken's protein...
Guess how often I returned to that lady...
And who would ever eat chicken and greek yogurt???
I use it in place of sour cream and it is so good with chicken fajitas!1 -
Here is the biggest myth of all: "You need 3 servings of dairy a day for Calcium"0
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