What is something way too high in calories but you cant resist and how often do you have it?
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deannalfisher wrote: »
this was an earlier post...which is what keyed on to that part of the discussion - Either that or I have to go do an extra 2 or 3 hours of cardio!
Yeah, I saw that part. But that was just her talking about the math of TDEE.
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sausage, but the turkey one is only 100 cal instead of 190, so I switched to that one2
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Chunkahlunkah wrote: »What You're making an issue where there isn't one.
My thoughts exactly. Sheesh.
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deannalfisher wrote: »this was an earlier post...which is what keyed on to that part of the discussion - Either that or I have to go do an extra 2 or 3 hours of cardio!
Out of "guilt"? Where are you getting that from? I was referring to how I would address managing my calories if I consumed a big ol' slab of cheesecake that goes for 1000 - 1500 calories. First off - I wouldn't do it in the first place. Because it's too damn hard for me to work off, and even harder to reduce calories the rest of the week. Clearly you misread/misunderstood my posts. Guilt has not one thing to do with it.
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RaeBeeBaby wrote: »Kettle Chips. The Kettle Brand ones. All the flavors. Strangely, I can have unopened bags in my cupboard with no crazy desire to eat them, but rip the bag open and pretty soon I'm licking out the crumbs at the bottom.
Yes, I fit them in once a week or so, but usually make the husband take them to work once the bag is open.
Yeah I just don't buy the darn things anymore. Salty snacks are just a trigger food for me, and potato chips are the worst. My BF saw those Moscow Mule ones the other day. He really wanted to buy them, but I refused to even pick them up.
Did you try them yet? I was wondering what sort of flavor that was. 1 -
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White chocolate bread pudding, the extra cheese macaroni pizza- burger from a local place (just saying the name adds weight lol), dunkin donuts double chocolate donut and any krispy kreme...... the list goes on lol but I have learned I can have it all with that "moderation" thing they talk about- that's the best thing about cico- there are unlimited options0
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »Kettle Chips. The Kettle Brand ones. All the flavors. Strangely, I can have unopened bags in my cupboard with no crazy desire to eat them, but rip the bag open and pretty soon I'm licking out the crumbs at the bottom.
Yes, I fit them in once a week or so, but usually make the husband take them to work once the bag is open.
Yeah I just don't buy the darn things anymore. Salty snacks are just a trigger food for me, and potato chips are the worst. My BF saw those Moscow Mule ones the other day. He really wanted to buy them, but I refused to even pick them up. Did you try them yet? I was wondering what sort of flavor that was.
Yeah salty snacks I stopped buying altogether and I don't even try moderation with. Just not satisfying at all to eat a pitiful serving, and I guess I'd rather save my calories for sweet things anyway.1 -
Typical carnival goody from around here (and it's the season for them too... HELP!):
Imagine a deep fried crepe with a healthy dab of powdered sugar on top... It's around 200 calories per and there's no way I stop at one...
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »this was an earlier post...which is what keyed on to that part of the discussion - Either that or I have to go do an extra 2 or 3 hours of cardio!
Out of "guilt"? Where are you getting that from? I was referring to how I would address managing my calories if I consumed a big ol' slab of cheesecake that goes for 1000 - 1500 calories. First off - I wouldn't do it in the first place. Because it's too damn hard for me to work off, and even harder to reduce calories the rest of the week. Clearly you misread/misunderstood my posts. Guilt has not one thing to do with it.
perception..and you weren't talking about cheesecake...you were talking about a splurge on doritos...but obviously - we are just going to continue agreeing to disagree...1 -
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deannalfisher wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »feeling like you have to punish yourself for having a splurge is a sign of potential disordered eating...
LOL. You missed the point entirely.
not missing the point...if you feel like you need to work out an extra 2hours to burn off the calories from your Dorito "splurge" (in your own words) - then your relationship with food should be addressed
how many dorito's did you eat that you felt that way? any entire bag or a single serving?
IMHO, anyone who has to adhere so strictly to an eating plan that you can even fit in some fun/splurge foods - then it should be addressed
Really, no.
I exercise so I can eat more. End of the story. I'm not doing it to punish myself or burn off that piece of cheesecake. I actually enjoy it more than sitting in front of the TV for 2 hours... I just could never even fit in a 100 calorie treat if I didn't exercise/walked more. And I love eating, so it's a pretty simple choice for me.
Sedentary TDEE = 1600 calories. Active TDEE = up to 2400 calories (about 20k steps). It makes a big difference in how pleasant and happy my days are, believe me.
I don't think that was addressed to you but to the other poster indicating that they sometimes feel they have to spend 2-3 hours/day exercising to work off what they are.
It's a subtle distinction but I think a relevant one:
Person 1 plans what they want to eat, they have a craving or desire for something calorie dense, so they work out more that day or that week, cut calories a bit, so that they can fit in the food they want.
Person 2 eats a yummy calorie dense food that they weren't planning on eating, they consume more calories than normal, feel guilty or that they have to address the overage, so they work out more the next day to get back on track.
In reality, both people are probably in a net neutral situation for calories, but one mindset seems healthier to me.
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WinoGelato wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »feeling like you have to punish yourself for having a splurge is a sign of potential disordered eating...
LOL. You missed the point entirely.
not missing the point...if you feel like you need to work out an extra 2hours to burn off the calories from your Dorito "splurge" (in your own words) - then your relationship with food should be addressed
how many dorito's did you eat that you felt that way? any entire bag or a single serving?
IMHO, anyone who has to adhere so strictly to an eating plan that you can even fit in some fun/splurge foods - then it should be addressed
Really, no.
I exercise so I can eat more. End of the story. I'm not doing it to punish myself or burn off that piece of cheesecake. I actually enjoy it more than sitting in front of the TV for 2 hours... I just could never even fit in a 100 calorie treat if I didn't exercise/walked more. And I love eating, so it's a pretty simple choice for me.
Sedentary TDEE = 1600 calories. Active TDEE = up to 2400 calories (about 20k steps). It makes a big difference in how pleasant and happy my days are, believe me.
I don't think that was addressed to you but to the other poster indicating that they sometimes feel they have to spend 2-3 hours/day exercising to work off what they are.
It's a subtle distinction but I think a relevant one:
Person 1 plans what they want to eat, they have a craving or desire for something calorie dense, so they work out more that day or that week, cut calories a bit, so that they can fit in the food they want.
Person 2 eats a yummy calorie dense food that they weren't planning on eating, they consume more calories than normal, feel guilty or that they have to address the overage, so they work out more the next day to get back on track.
In reality, both people are probably in a net neutral situation for calories, but one mindset seems healthier to me.
I'm not sure. I don't think anyone would blink if a 'naturally slim' person decided to go for an extra walk after eating an extra piece of pie, you know? Or end up skipping dinner, which seems actually a worse option to me... but doesn't seem crazy when it's a 'naturally slim' person making that choice (as opposed to someone trying to lose weight).
For me, it's really just about choices. I don't mind going for a 30 minutes walk if it means I can eat two Thanks-a-Lots without having to worry about being over my calorie goal. I really don't think I have an eating disorder because of it. As I said above, my day is much more pleasant if I can walk for 2 hours and not have to worry too much about eating what I want - I love walking, and it relaxes me too... much more so than spending those 2 hours browsing the web or something.0 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »I can't think of anything that I can't fit into my weekly calories... even this bad boy if I plan well enough...
See, that means I don't get to eat ANYTHING the rest of the day. That looks like it is at least 1000 calories. No can do.
Worth it ^^
Mine is Booze, definitely. I seem to do an OK job with the food and then blow everything on alcohol!
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WinoGelato wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »feeling like you have to punish yourself for having a splurge is a sign of potential disordered eating...
LOL. You missed the point entirely.
not missing the point...if you feel like you need to work out an extra 2hours to burn off the calories from your Dorito "splurge" (in your own words) - then your relationship with food should be addressed
how many dorito's did you eat that you felt that way? any entire bag or a single serving?
IMHO, anyone who has to adhere so strictly to an eating plan that you can even fit in some fun/splurge foods - then it should be addressed
Really, no.
I exercise so I can eat more. End of the story. I'm not doing it to punish myself or burn off that piece of cheesecake. I actually enjoy it more than sitting in front of the TV for 2 hours... I just could never even fit in a 100 calorie treat if I didn't exercise/walked more. And I love eating, so it's a pretty simple choice for me.
Sedentary TDEE = 1600 calories. Active TDEE = up to 2400 calories (about 20k steps). It makes a big difference in how pleasant and happy my days are, believe me.
I don't think that was addressed to you but to the other poster indicating that they sometimes feel they have to spend 2-3 hours/day exercising to work off what they are.
It's a subtle distinction but I think a relevant one:
Person 1 plans what they want to eat, they have a craving or desire for something calorie dense, so they work out more that day or that week, cut calories a bit, so that they can fit in the food they want.
Person 2 eats a yummy calorie dense food that they weren't planning on eating, they consume more calories than normal, feel guilty or that they have to address the overage, so they work out more the next day to get back on track.
In reality, both people are probably in a net neutral situation for calories, but one mindset seems healthier to me.
I'm not sure. I don't think anyone would blink if a 'naturally slim' person decided to go for an extra walk after eating an extra piece of pie, you know? Or end up skipping dinner, which seems actually a worse option to me... but doesn't seem crazy when it's a 'naturally slim' person making that choice (as opposed to someone trying to lose weight).
For me, it's really just about choices. I don't mind going for a 30 minutes walk if it means I can eat two Thanks-a-Lots without having to worry about being over my calorie goal. I really don't think I have an eating disorder because of it. As I said above, my day is much more pleasant if I can walk for 2 hours and not have to worry too much about eating what I want - I love walking, and it relaxes me too... much more so than spending those 2 hours browsing the web or something.
Again, I don't think the comments and concerns were directed at you but the person who has expressed that they can never have these sorts of indulgences because they would have to make up for it in the gym, and referenced having a low calorie goal but when asked, never said what that goal is. Some red flags there. It's not just the comments about exercise but some of the other things that are giving people pause.
For what it's worth I too exercise in part so that I can eat more, and I realized that increasing my NEAT through staying active and on my feet has a significant impact on my total calorie allotment. I also prefer walking to more intense exercise.
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Back to the original question, I'm not one that has trigger foods or foods that I can't control myself around. There aren't specific foods that I can think of, but I think for me, indulgence comes in the form of events where I eat a little more of a lot of different things than I normally would. Last night for example I had book club so I had some appetizers, a big bowl of potato soup with bacon and cheese, a salad, an assortment of desserts, and wine. All of those things are things I consume individually pretty regularly, but when there's a party where the food is sitting out for grazing, or lots of choices, then I tend to eat more than usual. I also love "football food" like we put out at the Super Bowl, so even though I'm not loving the teams I'm excited about the food!
Oh and a good bread pudding. That is something I will always say yes to....2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Back to the original question, I'm not one that has trigger foods or foods that I can't control myself around. There aren't specific foods that I can think of, but I think for me, indulgence comes in the form of events where I eat a little more of a lot of different things than I normally would. Last night for example I had book club so I had some appetizers, a big bowl of potato soup with bacon and cheese, a salad, an assortment of desserts, and wine. All of those things are things I consume individually pretty regularly, but when there's a party where the food is sitting out for grazing, or lots of choices, then I tend to eat more than usual. I also love "football food" like we put out at the Super Bowl, so even though I'm not loving the teams I'm excited about the food!
Oh and a good bread pudding. That is something I will always say yes to....
Hell yeah!! Pass the wings!
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Back to the original question, I'm not one that has trigger foods or foods that I can't control myself around. There aren't specific foods that I can think of, but I think for me, indulgence comes in the form of events where I eat a little more of a lot of different things than I normally would. Last night for example I had book club so I had some appetizers, a big bowl of potato soup with bacon and cheese, a salad, an assortment of desserts, and wine. All of those things are things I consume individually pretty regularly, but when there's a party where the food is sitting out for grazing, or lots of choices, then I tend to eat more than usual. I also love "football food" like we put out at the Super Bowl, so even though I'm not loving the teams I'm excited about the food!
Oh and a good bread pudding. That is something I will always say yes to....
Hell yeah!! Pass the wings!
I go back and forth on whether I want wings or buffalo chicken dip at the super bowl. I love them both... but we always have so much food. I think I will make spinach queso for my dip, and then do wings and mini pizzas in the oven. My kids always request soft pretzels and toasted ravioli. We stopped going to big parties because I want to be able to watch the game without all the distractions of people that are just there for food and commercials and keep trying to make small talk with me... so now I feel compelled to turn out a good spread though even though it just may be 4 or 6 of us..,
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For me it would be Pani Puri......
I allow myself to have it once a week.
its an evening snack ..... so you never get it in resturants or stall in the day time.....(good ones atleast)
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Burrito with queso blanco and refried beans...I can't even imaging how many calories on in it. Good thing the restaurant is far from me, cause it is only a monthly or weekly treat.0
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Hard alcohol. Give me one drink and I could polish off the bottle.
So I drink wine insteady, maybe 3 times a week.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »That's why you should look at your weekly goal not just daily.
And it does at least 2 sittings!
Yeah that does not work for me. I have to be very strict, so daily is what I have to do.
Can I ask why it doesn't work for you? Medical reasons?
It doesn't work for me because if I go over one day, then the next day has to be that much less. Either that or I have to go do an extra 2 or 3 hours of cardio! So on my calorie budget, it's just too hard for me to restrict myself that much. Like I said, I expect that my calorie budget is far less than yours. If you are allowed 2000 calories a day ( or more), it's far easier to treat yourself and stay on a weekly target.
I'm on 1550 cals per day
Yeah more than me, but even if I had that much I'd never go for a slab of cheesecake or whatever, that was anywhere near 1000 calories. It's fine if others want to do that, and can manage it. But that does not work for me.
obviously you don't want people to help you as you're not answering any questions?
True this.RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »That's why you should look at your weekly goal not just daily.
And it does at least 2 sittings!
Yeah that does not work for me. I have to be very strict, so daily is what I have to do.
Can I ask why it doesn't work for you? Medical reasons?
It doesn't work for me because if I go over one day, then the next day has to be that much less. Either that or I have to go do an extra 2 or 3 hours of cardio! So on my calorie budget, it's just too hard for me to restrict myself that much. Like I said, I expect that my calorie budget is far less than yours. If you are allowed 2000 calories a day ( or more), it's far easier to treat yourself and stay on a weekly target.
My calories are 1200 for a 1lb a week loss. If I want to eat out I move more.
I move every day for 5 miles or so that I can eat 1600/1700 calories.
Most days I save 100/200 of these so that I can eat take away, restaurant meal etc one day a week.
You can make things fit if you try rather than just saying you can't.
EDIT- Forgot to say my diary is open, feel free to look.
Point is, Fir ME, it is simply too is no0 -
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Probably Beef Pad Thai. Also, I LOVE ham with mayonnaise on a toasted egg bagel.0
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brandi8484 wrote: »CHINESE BUFFET!
I had that last night... so much yum.1 -
Chinese all you can eat buffet. Ate it last night, up a pound this morning...1
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brandi8484 wrote: »CHINESE BUFFET!
Man, I've yet to find a buffet that really blows my mind.0 -
brandi8484 wrote: »CHINESE BUFFET!
Man, I've yet to find a buffet that really blows my mind.
I've only found one that has a great sushi bar and great Chinese food, but it's also a bit more then the average buffet. It's on Long Island over by the Source Mall.1 -
When I was in my first year of losing, I had an attitude that was very much in line with sticking to my daily deficit. I'd have slivers of things like deserts, or bank calories during the week to have something on the weekend. This was on 1200 calories with limited exercise, so I'd be eating at around 1200 to bank the calories. It was doable to earn a 300 calorie frosted chocolate cupcake for my birthday, for example. Or some cheese fries while we were on vacation. I lost weight steadily that year, sometimes at greater than expected rates following this careful planning strategy.
My exercise of choice at the time was walking. I did some light strength training two-three times a week.
Now that I'm down 95 pounds and fussing around with 5 (or is it 7?) vanity pounds, I'm much more relaxed. If I go over or feel like eating more one day, I do. I'm not in a rush to do this any more.
I do have trigger foods, and on occasion, I fully indulge in them in quantity. I shamelessly ate my way through the tub of caramel corn my family gave me for Christmas. I get boardwalk fries when we go on vacation. I get that caramel corn fresh and hot from the vendor on the boardwalk then too. Sometimes, I will buy a small bag of peanut M&M's and eat the whole thing.
Other things? I find work arounds. I love cheesecake, but it's kryptonite for me. There's a recipe on here for low calorie protein cheesecake that I'll be making this weekend, for example.
The important lesson I've taken away underscoring all the rambling I've just done is that I have finally separated myself from the guilt I used to feel about food. That is so phenomenally freeing to me. Some people would find it appalling to look at that empty tub of caramel corn and think that I ate the whole thing... how could she? It's not the proper portion? Isn't learning a healthy relationship with food learning how to have balance in all things? Well, yes and no. For me, I've found it's more healthy to sometimes just let loose the hounds of hell. This isn't binging. This is planned.
I didn't always feel this way. I've made posts in the past moralizing about this, and I apologize for them. I tend to think that if people felt guilt about eating before that it's far healthier to shed the guilt associated with that eating than it is to follow some arbitrary "shoulds".
BTW, my runs and lifts following these indulgence days are epic.8 -
potato chips.....
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burritos!
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