i lift very heavy weights and i can't seem to drop weight

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  • sammyliftsandeats
    sammyliftsandeats Posts: 2,421 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    or do you feel 1550 is a better starting point? Thank you all so much for your help!! you guys are really the best!

    if your TDEE is 1850 for lightly active and remember this is an estimate, to lose a half lb would be 1600 calories. not counting exercise.. you can start out at 1600 and go from there. as long as you eat under your TDEE you should lose, if you dont lose anything in say a month after of course weighing and logging EVERYTHING, then you can drop your calories a little. but the best way to lose weight is being able to eat as much as you can while still losing. the slower the better as well.
  • Rusty740
    Rusty740 Posts: 749 Member
    edited February 2017
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food). Just a thought.
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    One more question and I'll leave all Of you alone :) .my goal is to lose 1 lb a week. if I put myself at lightly active MFP gives me 1380 calories, if I put myself at active it gives me 1640....at 1640 I would not add in exercise...at 1380 I would...if I plug in to lose .5 pound lightly active I'm given 1630...where and how should I put myself?

    you cant lose 1lb a week with only 10lbs to lose safely.maybe water weight.can I ask why you want to lose 1lb a week so badly? its not sustainable with so little to lose.

    I feel 1 pound a week is a good goal, I know a healthy range is .5 - 2 pounds a week, I really just want to see the scale starting to move down... If i set my weight loss goal at .5 pound a week i get 1630 not including exercise, I need to really track everything and eat a bit lower then that...im starting at 1600 (including exercise), and seeing how that amount works for me, if I need to drop 50 calories I will...but to eat 1650 + exercise points which is about 200 calories give or take is definitely more then not body needs right now

    I dont think you grasp how MFP works.2 lbs a week is for those with more than 75lbs to lose. 0.5 is for those with less than 25 or 30 to lose.those are the healthy ranges.what MFP gives you for calories is without exercise. aka its not included. then when you log your exercise it will give you additional calories to eat back. which some people eat back up to half(50%) some eat all of them back. if you exercise you are given a bigger deficit.if mfp gives you 1630 that is what you are supposed to eat calorie wise,not lower. once in awhile if you go lower its fine. so if you eat 1630 calories and exercise off 200 you will be netting 1430,. which makes you have a deficit of an additional 200 calories, if you try losing a lb thats a 700 calorie deficit(500 for one lb loss+ 200 calories from exercise). which you stated your TDEE is 2300 which means your deficit would be 870 calories which is is a little over 1 and a half lbs deficit total.

    if you use MFP you need to eat some of your exercise calories back,your deficit is already built in thats how MFP works. not to mention you said you want to be 130lb (I think that was the number). weight fluctuates you wont weigh that all the time, you will have a weight range. not to mention weight loss is not linear and you wont lose every week.especially with so little to lose. The last 10-20 lbs are the hardest to lose.

    I'm sorry I'm very confused right now, 1800 calories a day for me is was to much! if I typed in lightly active and my goal was .5 pound a week my calories are at 1630, excluding exercise. now if u exercise on top of that that's now an additional 150-200 calories that i now need to eat back. If this was the propped amount for me to eat then I would have been at my goal by now. 1630 plus work out calories is most likely my maintenance.

    please let me know if I'm off with this? 1380 being I'm lightly active (which is 1 pound a week )+ exercise add ins makes more sense

    looking forward to hearing from you

    I'd have to take a look at your diet, but 1650/cals a day and losing 1lb a week @ your height and weight seems unlikely, especially if you're eating back your "earned" cals. Doesn't matter what MFP says. You're simply eating too much. As you said yourself, you're not losing weight. Outside of a thyroid issue or something similar, simply start by reducing food intake.

    All bull**** aside, it's a calorie in, calorie out thing. I don't care what everyone one else says. It's really that simple.

    I'm 212lb @ 6'0, cutting from 225 going to 205lb. I only eat 1500 cals a day and only "half" of earned cardio calories. Earned lifting cals don't count imho. I'm eating 225 gms of protein in there too, and losing about 1 -1.5 lbs a week. However, it is a slower process near the end. I will say that when you eat is very important. I eat at 8am, 9:30 am. 11 am, 12:30pm, 3pm and then super at around 6:30 after the gym.

    A lot of folks have advice, however I've always taken the approach of listening to folks who've actually been doing it , and doing it well for some time. Take a look at how they look physically, ask them what they did and how, and try to mimic that.

    Personal question; are you Clean? Like, are you taking anything? "Var" etc.. Rhetorical question - Don't answer that; but it will make you hold some water etc.

    Good luck!

    PS, Lift like a man, look like a Goddess.. Good Book..

    Thank you for this. why don't you eat your weight training calories back? 1630 is definitely to high for me to eat plus exercise...do you feel 1600 is a good number for me with my stats...im including weight training calories too.

    mfp says I should be eating 1380 to lose 1 lb a week, not including exercise

    feedback would be great
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food"). Just a thought.


    protein does not satiate everyone, for some its fat,others its carbs.while it takes more energy for your body to digest its not a very big effect, fat is lost in a deficit. it will help retain lean mass/muscle,but protein alone doesnt help reduce fat.@psuLemon,can you explain this in better detail please
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    or do you feel 1550 is a better starting point? Thank you all so much for your help!! you guys are really the best!

    if your TDEE is 1850 for lightly active and remember this is an estimate, to lose a half lb would be 1600 calories. not counting exercise.. you can start out at 1600 and go from there. as long as you eat under your TDEE you should lose, if you dont lose anything in say a month after of course weighing and logging EVERYTHING, then you can drop your calories a little. but the best way to lose weight is being able to eat as much as you can while still losing. the slower the better as well.

    and you are saying 1600 including exetcise, correct?
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food). Just a thought.

    just started today, and just want to start everything right
  • Rusty740
    Rusty740 Posts: 749 Member
    edited February 2017
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food"). Just a thought.


    protein does not satiate everyone, for some its fat,others its carbs.while it takes more energy for your body to digest its not a very big effect, fat is lost in a deficit. it will help retain lean mass/muscle,but protein alone doesnt help reduce fat.@psuLemon,can you explain this in better detail please

    You're right that fat is lost in a deficit, I think the OP gets this, but I think what she's after is that stubborn last bit.

    If we say that fat can be as satiating as protein it's still only going to be 20-30% of daily intake and at that it's still more than double the calories per pound as protein and carbs. 9 calories per lb vs 4 calories per lb. The thermic effect of fat and carbs are only about less than 10%, but protein is 25-30%. Combine those two things and upping protein is still worth a good try, but it's still correct that the deficit is what counts.
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food"). Just a thought.


    protein does not satiate everyone, for some its fat,others its carbs.while it takes more energy for your body to digest its not a very big effect, fat is lost in a deficit. it will help retain lean mass/muscle,but protein alone doesnt help reduce fat.@psuLemon,can you explain this in better detail please

    You're right that fat is lost in a deficit, I think the OP gets this, but I think what she's after is that stubborn last bit.

    If we say that fat can be as satiating as protein it's still only going to be 20-30% of daily intake and at that it's still more than double the calories per pound as protein and carbs. 9 calories per lb vs 4 calories per lb. The thermic effect of fat and carbs are only about less than 10%, but protein is 25-30%. Combine those two things and upping protein is still worth a good try, but it's still correct that the deficit is what counts.

    agree, and i plan to up my fat a bit, just looking for the right deficit.
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...
  • Rusty740
    Rusty740 Posts: 749 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    Something wrong... I just got 1419 BMR with age=30 weight=140lbs height=64.5" (5'4.5")
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    Something wrong... I just got 1419 BMR with age=30 weight=140lbs height=64.5" (5'4.5")

    so weird, that makes more sense
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food"). Just a thought.


    protein does not satiate everyone, for some its fat,others its carbs.while it takes more energy for your body to digest its not a very big effect, fat is lost in a deficit. it will help retain lean mass/muscle,but protein alone doesnt help reduce fat.@psuLemon,can you explain this in better detail please

    You're right that fat is lost in a deficit, I think the OP gets this, but I think what she's after is that stubborn last bit.

    If we say that fat can be as satiating as protein it's still only going to be 20-30% of daily intake and at that it's still more than double the calories per pound as protein and carbs. 9 calories per lb vs 4 calories per lb. The thermic effect of fat and carbs are only about less than 10%, but protein is 25-30%. Combine those two things and upping protein is still worth a good try, but it's still correct that the deficit is what counts.

    when you boil it down TEF is quite minimal.

    From reading this thread OP needs to accurately log intake for a few weeks and get her TDEE pegged down.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,430 MFP Moderator
    Rusty740 wrote: »
    I think you're on the right track here. You may want to consider some minor modifications to your macros. For body fat loss, consider upping your lean protein % a bit and reducing the other two macros. Protein does two things, it keeps you satiated longer and it takes more energy for your body to digest (Thermic Effect of Food"). Just a thought.


    protein does not satiate everyone, for some its fat,others its carbs.while it takes more energy for your body to digest its not a very big effect, fat is lost in a deficit. it will help retain lean mass/muscle,but protein alone doesnt help reduce fat.@psuLemon,can you explain this in better detail please

    Protein and fiber are fairly universal when it comes to satiety; fats and carbs are more individualistic. Having said that, TEF is generally over exaggerated; pro: 20-30%, Carbs: 5-6%, Fats: 1-2%. So if you normally eat 100g of protein, increase by 50% and now eat 150g, your increase in TEF = (50x4=200x.2 or .3 = 40-60 calories, plus you have to subtract out the macro you take it from). The bigger advantage, is protein is linked to maintaining metabolic functions and higher compliance during weight loss.


    Having said all of this, OP, all TDEE calculators are just estimates. Pick a number, track for 4-6 weeks and adjust based on actual results. So maybe start with 1500 and see how things go. Adjust macros based on goals and satiety and use a food scale.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    or do you feel 1550 is a better starting point? Thank you all so much for your help!! you guys are really the best!

    if your TDEE is 1850 for lightly active and remember this is an estimate, to lose a half lb would be 1600 calories. not counting exercise.. you can start out at 1600 and go from there. as long as you eat under your TDEE you should lose, if you dont lose anything in say a month after of course weighing and logging EVERYTHING, then you can drop your calories a little. but the best way to lose weight is being able to eat as much as you can while still losing. the slower the better as well.

    and you are saying 1600 including exetcise, correct?

    listen to what psuLemon said it the post at the bottom.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    Either use a calculator and use TDEE less 250 calories or use MFP set to sedentary and eat exercise calories. Pick one. Do it for 6-8 weeks. Track accurately. Reassess after that to see what your actual TDEE looks like.
  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    dannyjoe54 wrote: »
    My advice is to stop focusing on your weight and be more concerned about your body composition. The numbers on the scale don't mean anything without knowing your body fat %. At 130lbs you may think you'll look great or will you still be skinny fat? More resistance training is the ticket to a shapely athletic physique. If you need to keep adding cardio to control your weight you're doing something wrong. As a female you should be training with weights that allow you to do about 12 reps per set in good form and minimize the rest period between sets. Always train with focus and intensity! Don't forget adding muscle to your frame increases your BMR. Doing lots of Cardio will hinder that process and in some cases promote muscle loss! Eat a sugar free, salt free, low fat diet at all times.

    You realize your body needs salt and sugar to function right? I won't comment on the low fat diet portion b/c different strokes for different folks. But the no sugar and no salt thing is wrong.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?

    no its estimated, but all places post it in the 1400s
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?

    BMR isn't affected by exercise, that's TDEE. BMR is what you need to function in a coma.
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?

    Hi, Icant be so accurate because I don't know i work out intensely, but not sure if the exact expenditure...thats why I'm thinking 1550-1600 exercise included should be good
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,430 MFP Moderator
    zfitgal wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?

    Hi, Icant be so accurate because I don't know i work out intensely, but not sure if the exact expenditure...thats why I'm thinking 1550-1600 exercise included should be good

    Probably a good start. Try not to overthink. Pick a calorie goal, track for a month and adjust based on your goals.
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?

    Hi, Icant be so accurate because I don't know i work out intensely, but not sure if the exact expenditure...thats why I'm thinking 1550-1600 exercise included should be good

    Probably a good start. Try not to overthink. Pick a calorie goal, track for a month and adjust based on your goals.

    This is great advice. Actual data will give you a much more accurate path forward than any calculator.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?

    BMR isn't affected by exercise, that's TDEE. BMR is what you need to function in a coma.

    I know but it gives me a BMR of 1489 but if I put in more exercise it give me a higher BMR. I know what BMR is.and TDEE can change everyday depending on how much you burn I know that too. Im just stating the info it gives me. the more exercise I put in the higher BMR it gives but then again I dont go by those calculators anyway so its a moot point for me.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?

    Hi, Icant be so accurate because I don't know i work out intensely, but not sure if the exact expenditure...thats why I'm thinking 1550-1600 exercise included should be good

    how intensely do you workout though? if you give some info of how much you workout,like what you do and how much day to day. do you lift everyday,how long? do you do cardio/hiit? how long? how often? then others may be able to help you out to get at least a baseline
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?

    BMR isn't affected by exercise, that's TDEE. BMR is what you need to function in a coma.

    I know but it gives me a BMR of 1489 but if I put in more exercise it give me a higher BMR. I know what BMR is.and TDEE can change everyday depending on how much you burn I know that too. Im just stating the info it gives me. the more exercise I put in the higher BMR it gives but then again I dont go by those calculators anyway so its a moot point for me.

    That's odd because on Scooby's calculator it stays the exact same for me. It doesn't make sense for it to change because it's not based on any exercise. It can change due to muscle mass but you'd need a more complex calculator for that but again, it should be static.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    zfitgal wrote: »
    Someone sent this to me..TDEE for Sedentary is around1600 and for lightly active is 1850 that's not taking into account exercise so personally if I was you I would aim for 1400-1500 per day and log your exercise, eat half the cals back and see where you are in a month. It might seem like slow progress but you're already at the top end of the "Normal" BMI range for your height so you probably don't have too much to lose.

    TDEE takes into account exercise.

    It is TOTAL DAILY ENERGY EXPENDITURE.

    My TDEE is ~2100 calories and that is my exercise, daily life, and all that.

    I like Scooby's TDEE calculator.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    thos is telling me that my bmr is 1100 and that's not true...

    for my height and weight/age its giving me for 1-3 hrs of light exercise a week(Im more active than that though) a BMR of 1486. but cant say if that For Me is correct since I have a metabolic disorder. but again everything is an estimate anyway.@zfitgal-how do you know what your BMR is? have you had it tested or?

    BMR isn't affected by exercise, that's TDEE. BMR is what you need to function in a coma.

    I know but it gives me a BMR of 1489 but if I put in more exercise it give me a higher BMR. I know what BMR is.and TDEE can change everyday depending on how much you burn I know that too. Im just stating the info it gives me. the more exercise I put in the higher BMR it gives but then again I dont go by those calculators anyway so its a moot point for me.

    That's odd because on Scooby's calculator it stays the exact same for me. It doesn't make sense for it to change because it's not based on any exercise. It can change due to muscle mass but you'd need a more complex calculator for that but again, it should be static.

    its not the same. for 5-6 days of intense activity it gives me like 1590+ for BMR. so obviously its a glitch
  • zfitgal
    zfitgal Posts: 519 Member
    zfitgal wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I think you're getting the two calculation methods confused.

    If you're using a TDEE calculator, it takes your average exercise into consideration, so you don't eat back any calories. You take your TDEE - whatever deficit (250 calories to lose 0.5 pounds per week, 500 calories to lose 1 pound, etc.), and just eat that number of calories.

    If you're using MFP, you don't factor any additional exercise calories into your activity level. MFP gives you your deficit, then you add back in your exercise calories.

    Roughly speaking, either method should get you to the same average weekly caloric intake. The big difference tends to be whether you want extra calories to eat on exercise days or whether you'd like to have a more consistent target no matter what you did that day.

    One question: how are you calculating your calorie burn for your exercise?

    Hi, Icant be so accurate because I don't know i work out intensely, but not sure if the exact expenditure...thats why I'm thinking 1550-1600 exercise included should be good

    how intensely do you workout though? if you give some info of how much you workout,like what you do and how much day to day. do you lift everyday,how long? do you do cardio/hiit? how long? how often? then others may be able to help you out to get at least a baseline

    I do HIT once a week, spin twice a week at a high intensity, erigjt train very heavy three days a week...very heavy lifting...one hour a session
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