Clean eating
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Plain yoghurt at its best has only milk and cultures in it. Even low fat Greek can be made without thickeners by manipulating the temperatures and cultures used, but it is trickier than full fat.
The problem comes with low fat flavoured yoghurt, where manufacturers feel the need to make up for lack of flavour by adding sugar etc.
Personally I prefer full fat Greek yoghurt with a bit of jam or honey - but that's just because that's what I like best. I don't think flavoured yoghurts are particularly unhealthy as such, but watch the calories.
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jonilynn70 wrote: »Thank you everyone. I wasn't referring to the cultures as junk. Obviously this is the primary reason to eat the yogurt. I was reading containers at Walmart and got frustrated and gave up. I don't recall the brands but this post makes me more comfortable that I can find something without additives and extras. Thanks again for the links.
In the end, it's going to be determined by how you are defining clean. This really shouldn't be something that stresses you out or makes you freak out. Just concentrate on getting an overall solid diet. You might enjoy the below thread. The video is from Dr. Layne Norton who has his degree in Nutritional Science. He is a researcher, powerlift, bodybuilder and coach. Very knowledgeable in regards to nutrition.
Personally, I like Chobani, Dannon Greek 100, Siggi, Nosa and Dannon Light N Fit. I get whatever is really on sale.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10503952/bro-do-you-even-eat-clean/p12 -
I use Norman's fat-free Greek yogurt with 2x protein in a single-serve container. I put it over 1 cup of red seedless grapes and crumble a granola bar on top. (If granola bars are out for you, try sprinkling some toasted nuts instead.)0
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kommodevaran wrote: »jonilynn70 wrote: »Can anyone shed some light for me on now low fat or fat free Greek yogurt can be included in clean eating recipes when the ingredient list is huge and full of junk? And the full fat type is 300 calories for a cup!!! Help!!
Clean eating means nothing, and do you really eat a cup (250 ml) of yogurt in one sitting?
Nope. 5 ounces I imagine.0 -
Honestly, the whole "of you can't pronounce it, it must be bad" thing doesn't necessarily hold up. It can be frustrating to determine what's ok and what's shifty on your ingredient lists. Linoleic acid sounds intimidating to someone who doesn't know it's an omega fatty acid. But there are some resources you can peruse online to dig into your nutrition labels. Often times, it's the dose that makes the poison as well.4
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doittoitgirl wrote: »Honestly, the whole "of you can't pronounce it, it must be bad" thing doesn't necessarily hold up. It can be frustrating to determine what's ok and what's shifty on your ingredient lists. Linoleic acid sounds intimidating to someone who doesn't know it's an omega fatty acid. But there are some resources you can peruse online to dig into your nutrition labels. Often times, it's the dose that makes the poison as well.
^ My favorite pics to illustrate that fact:
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Why don't you make it yourself? It may sound like a ballache but my mum makes her own yogurt with a yogurt maker, it tastes so good and is easy! That way you know exactly what is in it0
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Home made yoghurt is easy and fun to do. Even Greek. I used to do it all the time.0
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kommodevaran wrote: »jonilynn70 wrote: »Can anyone shed some light for me on now low fat or fat free Greek yogurt can be included in clean eating recipes when the ingredient list is huge and full of junk? And the full fat type is 300 calories for a cup!!! Help!!
Clean eating means nothing, and do you really eat a cup (250 ml) of yogurt in one sitting?
Why not? Makes for a good breakfast!0 -
I personally love the chobani fruit on the bottom yogurt so good.
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Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc. I don't eat yogurt, but if I did, I'd eat plain yogurt (low fat most likely) and add fruit for sweetness if I wanted it. Fat is a part of clean eating. I eat a lot of fat actually, in the form of nuts, avocado, seeds, some oil, etc. I don't worry about how much fat is in my diet though do put a lot less in recipes (like I make an awesome hummus with no added oil), and I have easily lost 70 pounds in the past year by simply eating a clean diet (minimally processed foods, minimal sugar, no additives/chemicals etc. etc.). If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!0
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jonilynn70 wrote: »Can anyone shed some light for me on now low fat or fat free Greek yogurt can be included in clean eating recipes when the ingredient list is huge and full of junk? And the full fat type is 300 calories for a cup!!! Help!!
What kind of Greek Yogurt are you looking at that has an ingredient list full of junk?
I use Fage nonfat, plain Greek yogurt...ingredients:
Grade A Pasteurized Skimmed Milk, Live Active Yogurt Cultures (L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus).
Also, "clean" has nothing to do with calories...it's pretty much a meaningless term anyways...everyone has a different stance on "clean", but it really doesn't have anything to do with calories. There are many whole foods that are highly nutritious and also calorie bombs.2 -
perfectjewel wrote: »Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc. I don't eat yogurt, but if I did, I'd eat plain yogurt (low fat most likely) and add fruit for sweetness if I wanted it. Fat is a part of clean eating. I eat a lot of fat actually, in the form of nuts, avocado, seeds, some oil, etc. I don't worry about how much fat is in my diet though do put a lot less in recipes (like I make an awesome hummus with no added oil), and I have easily lost 70 pounds in the past year by simply eating a clean diet (minimally processed foods, minimal sugar, no additives/chemicals etc. etc.). If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!
so anything not whole foods is dirty?7 -
This is the thingperfectjewel wrote: »Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc. I don't eat yogurt, but if I did, I'd eat plain yogurt (low fat most likely) and add fruit for sweetness if I wanted it. Fat is a part of clean eating. I eat a lot of fat actually, in the form of nuts, avocado, seeds, some oil, etc. I don't worry about how much fat is in my diet though do put a lot less in recipes (like I make an awesome hummus with no added oil), and I have easily lost 70 pounds in the past year by simply eating a clean diet (minimally processed foods, minimal sugar, no additives/chemicals etc. etc.). If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!
so anything not whole foods is dirty?
This is what annoys me too. I have no scientific problem with trying to eat more fruit and veg and consider environmental impact and cook more from scratch. These are all great things. But "clean eating" doesn't mean that. All it means is "my way of eating is better than yours" - and the way of eating that counts as "clean" is different every time. It's just tiring.
As for 250g yoghurt, I generally eat 150 - I could definitely see myself eating 250 on a hungry day.8 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »This is the thingperfectjewel wrote: »Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc. I don't eat yogurt, but if I did, I'd eat plain yogurt (low fat most likely) and add fruit for sweetness if I wanted it. Fat is a part of clean eating. I eat a lot of fat actually, in the form of nuts, avocado, seeds, some oil, etc. I don't worry about how much fat is in my diet though do put a lot less in recipes (like I make an awesome hummus with no added oil), and I have easily lost 70 pounds in the past year by simply eating a clean diet (minimally processed foods, minimal sugar, no additives/chemicals etc. etc.). If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!
so anything not whole foods is dirty?
This is what annoys me too. I have no scientific problem with trying to eat more fruit and veg and consider environmental impact and cook more from scratch. These are all great things. But "clean eating" doesn't mean that. All it means is "my way of eating is better than yours" - and the way of eating that counts as "clean" is different every time. It's just tiring.
As for 250g yoghurt, I generally eat 150 - I could definitely see myself eating 250 on a hungry day.
no, it is a ridiculous concept that has no basis in reality and has about a million different definitions.
Instead of worrying about what foods are clean, dirty, good, bad just eat a balanced diet and make sure that you meet your calorie, micro, macro targets.
There are no bad foods, only bad diets.6 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »jonilynn70 wrote: »Can anyone shed some light for me on now low fat or fat free Greek yogurt can be included in clean eating recipes when the ingredient list is huge and full of junk? And the full fat type is 300 calories for a cup!!! Help!!
What kind of Greek Yogurt are you looking at that has an ingredient list full of junk?
I use Fage nonfat, plain Greek yogurt...ingredients:
Grade A Pasteurized Skimmed Milk, Live Active Yogurt Cultures (L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus).
Also, "clean" has nothing to do with calories...it's pretty much a meaningless term anyways...everyone has a different stance on "clean", but it really doesn't have anything to do with calories. There are many whole foods that are highly nutritious and also calorie bombs.
Yeah, I don't know what is "clean". I don't even find the label on the yoplait in my lunch bag that scary, but I guess some people would.
The "don't eat something if you don't understand the ingredients" won't really work for yogurt if you don't know bacterias.3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »This is the thingperfectjewel wrote: »Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc. I don't eat yogurt, but if I did, I'd eat plain yogurt (low fat most likely) and add fruit for sweetness if I wanted it. Fat is a part of clean eating. I eat a lot of fat actually, in the form of nuts, avocado, seeds, some oil, etc. I don't worry about how much fat is in my diet though do put a lot less in recipes (like I make an awesome hummus with no added oil), and I have easily lost 70 pounds in the past year by simply eating a clean diet (minimally processed foods, minimal sugar, no additives/chemicals etc. etc.). If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!
so anything not whole foods is dirty?
This is what annoys me too. I have no scientific problem with trying to eat more fruit and veg and consider environmental impact and cook more from scratch. These are all great things. But "clean eating" doesn't mean that. All it means is "my way of eating is better than yours" - and the way of eating that counts as "clean" is different every time. It's just tiring.
As for 250g yoghurt, I generally eat 150 - I could definitely see myself eating 250 on a hungry day.
no, it is a ridiculous concept that has no basis in reality and has about a million different definitions.
Instead of worrying about what foods are clean, dirty, good, bad just eat a balanced diet and make sure that you meet your calorie, micro, macro targets.
There are no bad foods, only bad diets.
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That's what I was saying.0 -
Plain greek yogurt that's just milk and cultures - you don't gain anything in the "clean eating" brownie points for making it yourself. I checked our brand - Wegmans house brand is milk and three or four lactobacilli strains. Yum!
Buy plain and then add your own flavors. You can control the sweetness and texture. Add some jam, add some honey, add a sprinkle of sugar to take the edge off the tartness. Add cut up fruit, or canned fruit and fruit juice.
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perfectjewel wrote: »Someone pointed out "clean eating" does have different meanings. To me, it means whole foods plant-based. Yogurt can be that - without the added sugar, with happy cows, organic, local, sustainable, etc.
I love yogurt and eat it a lot, but one thing it indisputably is not is plant-based. Can it be part of a plant-based diet? Depending on how you define that, sure, why not. A 100% plant-based diet? No. Because is it itself plant-based? No, it comes from an animal.If you do want non-fat yogurt, check out the ingredients in Trader Joe's (I used to eat their plain non-fat)- looking good!
As people have noted, there are tons of non-fat yogurts without added ingredients. The key is picking plain (if you care about that). I pick plain just because I like flavoring it myself with fruit of my choice.
Clean seems to mean whatever people think it means, and mostly just indicates that you want to call your diet clean for some reason. Whatever helps, I guess. (I happen to eat mostly from whole foods, etc. too, but I don't have a desire to claim that's cleaner than how others eat.)4 -
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Here in Canada I very much enjoy the Astro Balkan style yogurt. It has three ingredients; skim milk, cream, and bacterial cultures. I buy it in Wal-Mart. If you don't have it where you live why don't you move to Canada? We have a photogenic leader.
The natural sugar content is 3g per 100 grams.
The additives and thickeners I have seen in Yogurt might be carrageenan or gelatin; pretty harmless of themselves.0 -
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Here in Canada I very much enjoy the Astro Balkan style yogurt. It has three ingredients; skim milk, cream, and bacterial cultures. I buy it in Wal-Mart. If you don't have it where you live why don't you move to Canada? We have a photogenic leader.
The natural sugar content is 3g per 100 grams.
The additives and thickeners I have seen in Yogurt might be carrageenan or gelatin; pretty harmless of themselves.
But no Talenti in Canada. I'm not sure if the photogenic leader is enough to sway me to give up my Talenti....2 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Festering food at home does sound like something I want to do, or at least be able to tell people I'm doing!3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Festering food at home does sound like something I want to do, or at least be able to tell people I'm doing!
There are all sorts of festering options. Bread, beer, yoghurt, sauerkraut/kimchi, kefir, cheese... once you embrace the possibilities of deliberately letting food go off, you'll never look back!2 -
Sometimes I culture my own yogurt and sauerkraut, but I'm not big on festering either.lemurcat12 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Festering food at home does sound like something I want to do, or at least be able to tell people I'm doing!
(I'm really hoping that festering is an awesome autocorrect fail.)
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
I love rotting vegetables in jars on my counter! (I do pickles, kimchi, sauerkraut, and escabeche).
My math may have been different, but when I priced making yogurt vs. buying it didn't come out as a big savings, so I stick with non-dairy uses for my lactobacilli...0 -
Sometimes I culture my own yogurt and sauerkraut, but I'm not big on festering either.lemurcat12 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
Festering food at home does sound like something I want to do, or at least be able to tell people I'm doing!
(I'm really hoping that festering is an awesome autocorrect fail.)
Nope. I refer to creating interesting foods through their controlled infestation with tiny creatures, eg yeast, bacteria. You might prefer "culturing" or "fermenting" but I like "festering" because it's funny (and a true description).
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
I love rotting vegetables in jars on my counter! (I do pickles, kimchi, sauerkraut, and escabeche).
My math may have been different, but when I priced making yogurt vs. buying it didn't come out as a big savings, so I stick with non-dairy uses for my lactobacilli...
How do you calculate the price of home made yogurt?
milk + price of 1 yogurt (to get the whole thing started) + electricity + amortization investment = price?
I'm thinking of acquiring the necessary hardware to try considering that together with my mom, we go through about 10-15 of those things per week...0 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »
I love rotting vegetables in jars on my counter! (I do pickles, kimchi, sauerkraut, and escabeche).
My math may have been different, but when I priced making yogurt vs. buying it didn't come out as a big savings, so I stick with non-dairy uses for my lactobacilli...
How do you calculate the price of home made yogurt?
milk + price of 1 yogurt (to get the whole thing started) + electricity + amortization investment = price?
I'm thinking of acquiring the necessary hardware to try considering that together with my mom, we go through about 10-15 of those things per week...
What's an amortisation investment??
I use a slow cooker for yoghurt, with a dimmer plug that my electrician dad made me, and an instant read thermometer I had anyway. So no equipment costs, really. The slow cooker uses 30-40 watts when making yoghurt so that's not much power. I just reckon the cost of the milk and the starter (a tablespoon of plain yoghurt).
You don't need any special equipment, you can just make it in a pan wrapped with towels, like most people do in areas where yoghurt making is common (Eastern Europe, North Africa, Middle East).0
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