Reverse Diet
brittaut
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Has anyone ever tried a reverse diet?
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yes2
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such as "teid"
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Any success with that?0
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Haha. From what I read about it, its basically eating a huge meal for breakfast, not necessarily breakfast menu items, and a smaller lunch and a very small dinner. Example:
Breakfast:
Chicken breast, boiled potato and steamed vegetables.
Lunch:
Tuna salad sandwich
Afternoon Snack:
Tofu berry smoothie
Dinner:
Shredded wheat with orange juice0 -
Haha. From what I read about it, its basically eating a huge meal for breakfast, not necessarily breakfast menu items, and a smaller lunch and a very small dinner. Example:
Breakfast:
Chicken breast, boiled potato and steamed vegetables.
Lunch:
Tuna salad sandwich
Afternoon Snack:
Tofu berry smoothie
Dinner:
Shredded wheat with orange juice
I've never seen that called a reverse diet.
What I've heard called a reverse diet is when you have been eating at a deficit and want to work your calories back up slowly in order to find (and hopefully maximize) your maintenance calorie level. You take your current daily calorie intake and add 100 calories and eat that new calorie level for a week or two. If you are still losing, add 100 more calories every week or two until you find your maintenance level.
As for your plan to eat most of your calories early in the day, that's not going to lead to any extra weight loss. Weight loss is about overall calorie deficit, not when you consume those calories.
If eating early leaves you more satiated overall, then go for it. Otherwise, experiment to find what works best for you.25 -
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »No.. that is not a reverse diet.
Thats just eating calorie amounts in a larger to smaller order and in all honesty it does not matter what amount you eat at any time, its deficit.
If you like to eat more at night, eat a bigger meal then.. save calories for a snack, do whatever you want.
And correct me if i am wrong here MFP peeps but reverse dieting i believe is slowly increasing your calories by 100 or so every week or so until you reach maintenance.
And a diet break is when you eat at maintenance for a couple weeks and then go back to deficit.
You are correct.
OP you are describing "eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper."11 -
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Yes, one of the articles I read did explain that part about increasing calorie intake. Im gonna try it, as Im not a fan of most traditional breakfast items. So Ive been known to skip it....but chicken for breakfast, that I can do. I typically dont eat enough to lose any weight. My body is used to being in starvation mode. I put myself on a 1200 calorie diet and that is hard to do sometimes. I was just curious about it mostly, wondering if anybody had any success on that diet. Thank you for your input.1
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"Reverse" diet? That's normal, x3 squares a day. "Reverse diet" instinctually leads me to assume eating in excess/you're going for weight gain.
I've tried eating my largest meal for breakfast and smallest for dinner. For several months. I saw no difference in weight loss. FYI.
The folks here on MFP helped set my head straight. CICO; meal order is irrelevant as long as your dinner is several hours before bedtime and you weigh yourself before dinner.0 -
There is no "starvation mode" such as you are describing. If it worked like that, no one could starve to death.Yes, one of the articles I read did explain that part about increasing calorie intake. Im gonna try it, as Im not a fan of most traditional breakfast items. So Ive been known to skip it....but chicken for breakfast, that I can do. I typically dont eat enough to lose any weight. My body is used to being in starvation mode. I put myself on a 1200 calorie diet and that is hard to do sometimes. I was just curious about it mostly, wondering if anybody had any success on that diet. Thank you for your input.
As for breakfast, you don't have to eat it if you don't want to eat it. People lose weight just fine with intermittent fasting, eating one meal a day, whatever timing works for them. The important part is the calorie deficit.9 -
Thank you. Im relatively new to dieting and how it works. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.1
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No and no.metalmeow1 wrote: »as long as your dinner is several hours before bedtime and you weigh yourself before dinner.
You can eat right before you go to sleep as long as you don't have gastric issues. I eat right before bed and I lose just fine.
Many on MFP (including me) recommend weighing first thing in the morning after using the bathroom. That cuts out the variability of recent food/liquid intake.9 -
OP look up Layne Norton reverse dieting. He has blogs, a podcast and a service on his website ($9 to figure macros) for reverse dieting.
Hope that helps.2 -
Starvation mode as in the body storing food for fat. Thats how my nutritionist described it to me. Is that I wasnt eating enough or consuming enough calories to be able to lose weight the healthy way. But yes, calorie deficit is the key.3
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No. You are confused.
Reverse dieting is a means of getting your calories back up to maintenance slowly, without adding extra pounds if you have acquired adaptive thermogenesis after being in a prolonged or aggressive caloric deficit. Some think it can be used to go beyond what your TDEE should be but I'm not sure there is much scientific evidence of that. Or of reverse dieting in general.
You do not store fat by not eating enough..9 -
The body is always storing and releasing fat from cells. The body can't store excess fat if it doesn't have the energy available to do so.Starvation mode as in the body storing food for fat. Thats how my nutritionist described it to me. Is that I wasnt eating enough or consuming enough calories to be able to lose weight the healthy way. But yes, calorie deficit is the key.
People who have gastric surgery couldn't lose weight if starvation mode worked that way. Doctor-supervised VLCD's could not work.
Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. Registered dietitians have degrees.14 -
Starvation mode as in the body storing food for fat. Thats how my nutritionist described it to me. Is that I wasnt eating enough or consuming enough calories to be able to lose weight the healthy way. But yes, calorie deficit is the key.
Bodies do not do that. Why would people who were truly starving be emaciated while people who were dieting and ate too little hold onto fat? Doesn't that seem illogical to you?11 -
Starvation mode as in the body storing food for fat. Thats how my nutritionist described it to me. Is that I wasnt eating enough or consuming enough calories to be able to lose weight the healthy way. But yes, calorie deficit is the key.
Fire your nutritionist. She's clueless, I'm afraid.
If you stop and think for a second - does being able to eat more *and* lose weight at the same time make any sense at all?6 -
One can also reverse diet in maintenance to increase ones maintenance calories.
ie: my maintenance calories, (I hit the trifecta of being petite, older, and quite sedentary when not exercising) are 1200. It worked fine for a while after hitting maintenance, but it gave little room for fun, so I started slowly increasing by 25 cals a day, every couple of weeks, until I got to 1375. That's where I started a slow gain so backed off to 1350.
Cheers, h.2 -
No and no.metalmeow1 wrote: »as long as your dinner is several hours before bedtime and you weigh yourself before dinner.
You can eat right before you go to sleep as long as you don't have gastric issues. I eat right before bed and I lose just fine.
Many on MFP (including me) recommend weighing first thing in the morning after using the bathroom. That cuts out the variability of recent food/liquid intake.
Yes and yes. I'm glad you lose just fine, so do I, but I lose faster doing what I'm doing than doing what you're doing.
It's more predictable to assume you can pee in the morning than poo (gross I know, but it's true and it's "fake weight." Some care, some don't. Personally I want accuracy when I weigh in.)
I didn't say you can't lose weight if you eat before bed. I'm saying not to because A.) My doctor tells me to eat dinner several hours before bed to promote healthy weight, B.) The body rests better while not having broken sleep or discomfort and C.) Your body operates better and feels better on a proper schedule with proper rest... Fact. What your shift is is irrelevant, schedule is very relevant.0 -
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This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.1
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metalmeow1 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »"Reverse" diet? That's normal, x3 squares a day. "Reverse diet" instinctually leads me to assume eating in excess/you're going for weight gain.
I've tried eating my largest meal for breakfast and smallest for dinner. For several months. I saw no difference in weight loss. FYI.
The folks here on MFP helped set my head straight. CICO; meal order is irrelevant *snip*.
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Unnecessary? You don't have my body. If I eat just before bed, the food sticks to me like glue, I'm too full to sleep 8 straight hours, have to go to the bathroom breaking my sleep (ALWAYS) and/or have gas. Having dinner several hours before bed works for me, especially if on medications.
I weigh myself in the mornings, so dinner would not only screw up that accuracy, but it would make me too full for breakfast the next morning (which I like) and then after, some of us don't like working out stuffed (it makes us sick.)
What's unnecessary to you is essential to others. Some benefit from schedules and a straight 8 hours of sleep without pee breaks.
I am much different than you, if I don't eat atleast a snack before bed I wake up at 3 or 4 hungry and can't sleep until I eat.2 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
Don't be put off.
First posts can some times be hard.
It is a public forum so sometime tone can be misinterpreted.
The majority of people were explaining what reverse dieting is. Some were explaining that meal timing is up to the individual and no way is the only way.
Give the way you proposed in your original post a try- if it gives you more success, bothe saitety wise and losing weight keep at it. If not try something else.
All one needs to lose weight is a calorie deficit. Weighting food with a scale can help with accuracy.
Cheers, h.5 -
Rebecca0224 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »metalmeow1 wrote: »"Reverse" diet? That's normal, x3 squares a day. "Reverse diet" instinctually leads me to assume eating in excess/you're going for weight gain.
I've tried eating my largest meal for breakfast and smallest for dinner. For several months. I saw no difference in weight loss. FYI.
The folks here on MFP helped set my head straight. CICO; meal order is irrelevant *snip*.
Unnecessary steps removed.
Unnecessary? You don't have my body. If I eat just before bed, the food sticks to me like glue, I'm too full to sleep 8 straight hours, have to go to the bathroom breaking my sleep (ALWAYS) and/or have gas. Having dinner several hours before bed works for me, especially if on medications.
I weigh myself in the mornings, so dinner would not only screw up that accuracy, but it would make me too full for breakfast the next morning (which I like) and then after, some of us don't like working out stuffed (it makes us sick.)
What's unnecessary to you is essential to others. Some benefit from schedules and a straight 8 hours of sleep without pee breaks.
I am much different than you, if I don't eat atleast a snack before bed I wake up at 3 or 4 hungry and can't sleep until I eat.
My brother's like that too. He's a snacker.
...Then again he never eats dinner on time, the same time every night. Just an observation.0 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
Mostly these forums / threads are great.
And sometimes a couple people do what they are doing in this thread.
Don't take it personally. It's obviously not about you; they're just doing what they do ...4 -
This discussion has become slightly rude. Thank you for the advice and whats important. It was a diet that I ran across while looking at different diets. And was merely explaining what I had read about it and was wondering if anyone had any success with it. That was it. This was my first post and probably will be my last. Didnt come here to ridiculed, maybe educated and get some advice from others with more dieting experience than I have.
You're not being ridiculed. I was genuinely confused by what you meant by saying "reverse diet" as were many others. I offered my advice in saying that yes, it turns out I did try it, and no, it didn't help me.
Stick around, most of the time it's pleasant around here
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So basically what I am reading is, it doesnt really matter what time of day you eat. All that matters is your calorie deficit. And you should lose weight? Granted you are eating the proper foods and not junk. Maybe it would be easier if someone would send me a message and explain it to me, if thats not correct. And in exercising you have to burn more calories than you consume, right?6
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