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Spot Reducing...This Should Be Interesting...
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If spot reduction worked... everyone would be wearing waist trainers. Goodness knows I'd be rocking that if it did! I have had many Facebook friends selling the It Works! wraps, but were still overweight. Everyone wants the magic trick, but it doesn't work. If it did - there would be much fewer fat people. Be careful what you insist works, It's a miracle! Someone who's never heard any of this before and has no idea what they're doing could be completely derailed and give up when the inevitable happens.
And as many legs/butt/back workouts I do - They should be chiseled statues of perfection by now. Not a work in progress, still.
Edit: holy heck batman and typos.. my bad. Still getting used to my mac's tiny keyboard
This is true, there isn't a magic trick - it's just far easier for being to believe there is one.
It takes a while right...
My MacBook Air actually has a bigger keyboard than my Mac at home!0 -
AdamAthletic wrote: »If spot reduction worked... everyone would be wearing waist trainers. Goodness knows I'd be rocking that if it did! I have had many Facebook friends selling the It Works! wraps, but were still overweight. Everyone wants the magic trick, but it doesn't work. If it did - there would be much fewer fat people. Be careful what you insist works, It's a miracle! Someone who's never heard any of this before and has no idea what they're doing could be completely derailed and give up when the inevitable happens.
And as many legs/butt/back workouts I do - They should be chiseled statues of perfection by now. Not a work in progress, still.
Edit: holy heck batman and typos.. my bad. Still getting used to my mac's tiny keyboard
This is true, there isn't a magic trick - it's just far easier for being to believe there is one.
It takes a while right...
My MacBook Air actually has a bigger keyboard than my Mac at home!AdamAthletic wrote: »If spot reduction worked... everyone would be wearing waist trainers. Goodness knows I'd be rocking that if it did! I have had many Facebook friends selling the It Works! wraps, but were still overweight. Everyone wants the magic trick, but it doesn't work. If it did - there would be much fewer fat people. Be careful what you insist works, It's a miracle! Someone who's never heard any of this before and has no idea what they're doing could be completely derailed and give up when the inevitable happens.
And as many legs/butt/back workouts I do - They should be chiseled statues of perfection by now. Not a work in progress, still.
Edit: holy heck batman and typos.. my bad. Still getting used to my mac's tiny keyboard
This is true, there isn't a magic trick - it's just far easier for being to believe there is one.
It takes a while right...
My MacBook Air actually has a bigger keyboard than my Mac at home!
I know, isn't it insane?? I love it - just forget I have to slow down sometimes ... easy to get "finger" [tongue] tied.
Back on topic - it is easier to think/believe, but you're likely to fail if you aren't able to accept reality of the hard work it takes to transform yourself. Mentally, physically, emotionally.
ETA: If it were easy, I wouldn't want it so bad. I wouldn't look forward to my squat day as much as I do. And so on.2 -
AdamAthletic wrote: »If spot reduction worked... everyone would be wearing waist trainers. Goodness knows I'd be rocking that if it did! I have had many Facebook friends selling the It Works! wraps, but were still overweight. Everyone wants the magic trick, but it doesn't work. If it did - there would be much fewer fat people. Be careful what you insist works, It's a miracle! Someone who's never heard any of this before and has no idea what they're doing could be completely derailed and give up when the inevitable happens.
And as many legs/butt/back workouts I do - They should be chiseled statues of perfection by now. Not a work in progress, still.
Edit: holy heck batman and typos.. my bad. Still getting used to my mac's tiny keyboard
This is true, there isn't a magic trick - it's just far easier for being to believe there is one.
It takes a while right...
My MacBook Air actually has a bigger keyboard than my Mac at home!AdamAthletic wrote: »If spot reduction worked... everyone would be wearing waist trainers. Goodness knows I'd be rocking that if it did! I have had many Facebook friends selling the It Works! wraps, but were still overweight. Everyone wants the magic trick, but it doesn't work. If it did - there would be much fewer fat people. Be careful what you insist works, It's a miracle! Someone who's never heard any of this before and has no idea what they're doing could be completely derailed and give up when the inevitable happens.
And as many legs/butt/back workouts I do - They should be chiseled statues of perfection by now. Not a work in progress, still.
Edit: holy heck batman and typos.. my bad. Still getting used to my mac's tiny keyboard
This is true, there isn't a magic trick - it's just far easier for being to believe there is one.
It takes a while right...
My MacBook Air actually has a bigger keyboard than my Mac at home!
I know, isn't it insane?? I love it - just forget I have to slow down sometimes ... easy to get "finger" [tongue] tied.
Back on topic - it is easier to think/believe, but you're likely to fail if you aren't able to accept reality of the hard work it takes to transform yourself. Mentally, physically, emotionally.
ETA: If it were easy, I wouldn't want it so bad. I wouldn't look forward to my squat day as much as I do. And so on.
Totally with you on that.
The problem is, people are very quick to accept that easy options exist and take a lot longer to accept that it takes true dedication to get to where they really want to be!!
And hey, great work on the go-getter mentality.. That's exactly what it takes to succeed!2 -
If anyone knows how to spot reduce successfully, in the long run, I'll pay you 1M to give me your secret5
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I get the opposite effect. Works abs, low back, and obliques hard, and my waist measurement jumps by 1.5 inches or so. Clearly, deadlifts are making me fat...or it could be water in the musculature.8
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It helps with water loss.
A lot of girls now do body wraps (with anticellulite masks) during exercising. It helps to lose water and sweat and therefore to reduce cellulite.
Though I can not stand that burning sensation so I'm not into it.0 -
It helps with water loss.
A lot of girls now do body wraps (with anticellulite masks) during exercising. It helps to lose water and sweat and therefore to reduce cellulite.
Though I can not stand that burning sensation so I'm not into it.
That's how their slick sales pitch goes, but water loss from those wraps is temporary and does absolutely nothing to reduce cellulite. There is no lasting benefit to increasing sweat production in a particular area of the body. Unfortunately, people who don't realize this will waste their money on those useless scam products.4 -
I'm just here thinking that I'm a bellydancer and binding my belly that much is the last thing I'd want to do! A stocking sure, but a wrap? My undulations would suffer and I can't have that.4
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You can try that Cool treatment where they chill sections of your fat for maybe an hour.
After several treatments, it can kill off maybe 20% of the fat cells1 -
NikkiiBaby68 wrote: »Whats your view point on this.
You can't spot reduce.1 -
There are certain compounds that will allow spot reduction and others that have been medically shown in studies to fight certain areas of fat. Naturally through diet and exercise: NO. Your genetically predisposed to storing fat in certain areas depending on your genetics. Everybody differs. Unless you plan on taking certain compounds you cannot spot reduce fat. Water retention is another issue, completely.0
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There are certain compounds that will allow spot reduction and others that have been medically shown in studies to fight certain areas of fat. Naturally through diet and exercise: NO. Your genetically predisposed to storing fat in certain areas depending on your genetics. Everybody differs. Unless you plan on taking certain compounds you cannot spot reduce fat. Water retention is another issue, completely.
which compounds are those?1 -
jessiferrrb wrote: »There are certain compounds that will allow spot reduction and others that have been medically shown in studies to fight certain areas of fat. Naturally through diet and exercise: NO. Your genetically predisposed to storing fat in certain areas depending on your genetics. Everybody differs. Unless you plan on taking certain compounds you cannot spot reduce fat. Water retention is another issue, completely.
which compounds are those?
For the record you have been messaged with examples. Not something I condone as nothing beats exercise and diet for achieving personal goals but all these people saying you can't do this or that require a little clarification. Certain compounds can spot reduce and have been proven to do so.
Generally anybody with a ridiculous FFMI calculation probably knows the score.0 -
jessiferrrb wrote: »There are certain compounds that will allow spot reduction and others that have been medically shown in studies to fight certain areas of fat. Naturally through diet and exercise: NO. Your genetically predisposed to storing fat in certain areas depending on your genetics. Everybody differs. Unless you plan on taking certain compounds you cannot spot reduce fat. Water retention is another issue, completely.
which compounds are those?
For the record you have been messaged with examples. Not something I condone as nothing beats exercise and diet for achieving personal goals but all these people saying you can't do this or that require a little clarification. Certain compounds can spot reduce and have been proven to do so.
Generally anybody with a ridiculous FFMI calculation probably knows the score.
Are you talking about legal, publicly available "compounds"? Or controlled substances which are a felony to possess/use, many of which have potentially adverse side effects? Even of the latter, I know of none which have been found to be useful in targeted/spot reduction.
If they're legal "compounds", why not share your wisdom with the rest of us? I'm sure a lot of people would love to know what legal substances they could use that would facilitate fat reduction from those pesky areas everybody wants to get rid of.7 -
I don't even know of any illegal compounds that make you actually spot reduce either. I know of one or two that may even out your body's fat loss order preferences and make it more even across your body, but no spot reduction.2
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Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.0 -
Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.
Really? Now you're just splitting hairs.1 -
Sorry, but "Oh they exist but I'm not gonna tell you guys publicly" sounds fishy as hell.
And not only names but also verifiable sources showing the effects you're saying they have. You know, the way discourse works.7 -
Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.
You can't say they exist and then fail to list them.4 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.
Really? Now you're just splitting hairs.
Sure - because showing another user that the exact opposite of what OP has been told is true happens to be 'splitting hairs'.0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.
Really? Now you're just splitting hairs.
Sure - because showing another user that the exact opposite of what OP has been told is true happens to be 'splitting hairs'.
You didn't show anything... You came on the thread like a shady used car salesman and gave no information.10 -
Why am I not surprised you don't like people linking to the WHO?3
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stevencloser wrote: »Why am I not surprised you don't like people linking to the WHO?
The WHO wasn't the issue - the complete shock of the irrelevance of your 'research' was the issue. Anyway that's another thread. I just sent you two messages with two examples. You want some more messages with other examples? I also provided you with links if you require any more links or research into those let me know.
Without prescription and approval from a doctor I find it more appropriate to not discuss particulars but you get the idea 0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Both of you: These are prescribed for certain conditions but are not unknown to be available as performance enhancers.
Steven are you referring to something along the lines of a dihydrotestosterone such as stanozolol? Nope - definitely not that. Far safer than that in fact but still prescription based. Not unknown to be used for performance and aesthetic/physique improvements by those who compete, however.
Anyway: there's hardly a point listing them here (I did message the above initial posted with examples to prove my point) but it's scientifically incorrect to tell people there's no way to spot reduce when there are compounds that will do it. The use of *anything* without prescription or purpose is not a good idea although doctors have been known to prescribe at least one of these specifically for these kinds of purposes. Depends on the country etc. Things become more grey as the years progress and studies contribute positive connotations towards particular compounds.
Really? Now you're just splitting hairs.
Sure - because showing another user that the exact opposite of what OP has been told is true happens to be 'splitting hairs'.
You didn't show anything... You came on the thread like a shady used car salesman and gave no information.
Not to you - two people who asked for it (One of whom is online now - Steven) have been provided with examples. As for the used car salesman - if he so wishes to forward you any information that's up to him I certainly won't be to yourself.
"Showing another user" - I specifically messaged that initial user asking for clarification. I understand if English isn't your strong point but don't call people out if you're uncertain as to exactly what's going on, mmmkay? Or at least have the common decency to be polite when you do.0 -
NM... Not worth it.0
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Oh lookie, neither of the two things you sent me in the PMs actually showed spot reduction, just fat loss induced because one is a steroid and the other is hgh.9
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If ever a thread should be closed, it's this one.4
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »If ever a thread should be closed, it's this one.
And why would that be?
Hey - I'm not the one who thought to namedrop anything publicly. He wanted to show off and start spewing specifics. Pity that he is factually incorrect. Would have been better responding directly but something tells me that would have given little to no 'street cred'? heh1 -
stevencloser wrote: »Oh lookie, neither of the two things you sent me in the PMs actually showed spot reduction, just fat loss induced because one is a steroid and the other is hgh.
Care to share which miracle "spot reduction" things these are?2 -
It's not "bringing her down". It's an explanation of what actually happens with wrapping. Now why pray tell would it be refuted? Because someone will lock onto this and likely try it because of an anecdote. That's actually how ALL testimonies work for PRODUCT SALES although I don't believe the OP is intentionally doing that here.SpotLighttt wrote: »NikkiiBaby68 wrote: »The little test I did was a per week basis...on weeks i focused on these areas like this I lost about twice as much as the weeks I didnt and this was consistent. I did this over a span of about three months. Was just curious what everyone else thought and knew the kind of answers I was going to get.
you do you. If it works then great.
Best of luck. Dont let others bring you down.
Science actually works. There has been one study to show that you CAN spot reduce body fat from a chosen area, but the amount of exercise needed to get an insignificant loss would deter anyone from doing it.
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