But I would have to add a HONEYBUN
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories
I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.
This is not "clean" by any defintion of "clean", most of these items in my house are considered junk food to be eaten every now and then, with the exception of lean cuisine (or anything similar) which I would not allow my kids to eat unless it was this or starve to death. Regardless of whether you are eating 700 or 7000 calories, this is extremely poor nutritionally!
I was expecting to see fresh vegetables, fruit and grilled meats in a supposedly "clean" diet!
This is why the term needs to die a fiery death.18 -
These numbers don't add up. You say you've seen 3 pounds of loss in 3 weeks, right? That means you've created a deficit of about 10,500 calories, or 500 calories per day. If yesterday is truly representative of the entire 3 weeks, it would mean that your TDEE is 1300 calories. That's unlikely, unless you're very light, very old or very sedentary. If the one example day is truly accurately representative of all 3 weeks and you're not a 100-pound 70-year-old woman, based on your results you might want to see a doctor.
(If you're planning to continue eating that way, you might want to see a doctor anyway. The one example day you posted is super unbalanced and is going to lead to some kind of nutritional deficiencies eventually).2 -
I get the feeling you don't really want help since you're dismissing people's ideas. You have to make time for things that are important. Wake up 15 minutes earlier to weigh things, and save a little money or work an extra hour or two if you can to buy a food scale. Test your logging. You've also been told that it would be wise to add calories but you don't seem to want to accept that, despite most of the people here saying that. You have to ask questions with an open mind and a willingness to change if you want results, and to feel good.6
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TavistockToad wrote: »
I'd feel like dog poo and my energy level would free fall, leading to me becoming world's largest slug. I wonder if a decrease in NEAT plus some iffy logging is a lot of what's going on here.3 -
OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
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Packerjohn wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?
so if it comes down to a honey bun or nothing, then go with nothing? Still makes zero sense...
if the choice is under eating or poor nutrtion, poor nutrition is the better or the two poor choices..
Bro, work on your reading comprehension. Nothing was said about not having the ability to get nutrient dense food. I also acknowledged the need for sufficient calories.
My post you were quoting
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan
If there are no restrictions medically or availability-wise do you think something more nutrient dense than a honeybun should fill in a calorie gap from 900 to 1200 calories?
I clearly stated my thoughts that OP should eat whatever gets her to, or over 1200, guess you did not read and comprehend that part....0 -
two things--the daily food intake that the OP posted is not even close to clean and second--I would be STARVING on that amount of food and kind of food. nothing on there is actually satisfying.4
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »So, I'm finding it incredibly difficult to meet 1200 calories a day. I eat when I'm hungry and make healthy choices. I love oven roasted vegetables for lunch. And then I typically have a lean cuisine at night. I am pretty much sedentary except the occasional days of walking around the local town. I typically cap off my days around 900 calories. I refuse to eat 1 and a half hours before I go to sleep. I know I'm supposed to be at 1200, but I can't seem to reach it. I'm just not that hungry. And get this - I've been at the same weight for almost a month!! Tips and advice appreciated.
No one does not lose weight because they eat too little.5 -
Maxematics wrote: »If you've been the same weight for a month, I'm 99.9% certain your calorie intake isn't 900 per day.
Exactly.5 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »
Yeah...no.1 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?
so if it comes down to a honey bun or nothing, then go with nothing? Still makes zero sense...
if the choice is under eating or poor nutrtion, poor nutrition is the better or the two poor choices..
Bro, work on your reading comprehension. Nothing was said about not having the ability to get nutrient dense food. I also acknowledged the need for sufficient calories.
My post you were quoting
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan
If there are no restrictions medically or availability-wise do you think something more nutrient dense than a honeybun should fill in a calorie gap from 900 to 1200 calories?
I clearly stated my thoughts that OP should eat whatever gets her to, or over 1200, guess you did not read and comprehend that part....
You forgot to add the part that the additional calories should be nutrient dense if at all possible, which is important for someone eating so few calories.3 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories
I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.
There are really only three possibilities:- You are not being honest with yourself, and/or your measuring is way off, and you are eating more than you think.
- You have developed a disordered way of dealing with food and your body is no longer giving you appropriate hunger signals, and you are undereating and underfueling your body.
- There is something medically wrong and you need to see a doctor. No adult woman should feel full on 900 cals or less every day. Sure every once and awhile it might happen, but routinely eating that little should leave you starving.
I got my food scale for $13 on Amazon. It takes literally seconds to weigh your portions, especially on a day like the one you posted where you are mostly eating convenience foods. It would take me less than a minute to weigh everything you listed for the day. If you are really eating less than 900 cals per day every day, please take a little time to figure out why, best of luck.5 -
Okay I'm just done reading comments on this thread.
1 - I never said I was okay with this. Hence the reason for the thread in the first place. I was looking for advice, not judgement.
2 - the original post stated that the honey bun was an exaggeration. For crying out loud, not everything is literal.
3 - my sugar has 10 calories per teaspoon. I use artificial because my blood sugar drops when I get too much real sugar.
4 - I also never said I eat clean. I only stated that I try to eat more clean than gas station confections with no substance other than trans fats and sugars and carbs.
I'm so done with this thread. I came looking for help and support for my diet and am, instead, being criticized for the very thing I pointed out as a problem, myself!
To those that DID offer advice and support and information on pros of weighing food, thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly and will try to get a good scale as soon as possible.
To those who have read this post and immediately want to give more backlash, have fun. I won't be coming back here to read it.2 -
You can always have your thread deleted. Good luck OP3
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »For the most part I try to avoid things with ingredient lists this long:
enriched flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), sugar, water, palm oil, vegetable shortening (soybean oil and palm oil with added mono- and diglycerides), yeast, contains 2% or less of each of the following: dextrose, salt, cornstarch, soy flour, monoglycerides, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda), datem, soy lecithin, soybean oil, dried honey, cinnamon, calcium sulfate, agar, colored with extracts of annatto and turmeric, titanium dioxide (for color), natural and artificial flavor, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, preserved with calcium propionate, sodium propionate, and potassium sorbate
Because....?
Because I prefer to eat as clean as possible. I'm not 100% into clean eating. But I would like to eat as clean as I can.
For the record, I believe it was this post that led most of us to believe you were saying you 'eat clean.' That's a loaded phrase around here, obviously. I hope you got some useful information from this thread, at the very least, that you can use going forward. No backlash.8 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay I'm just done reading comments on this thread.
1 - I never said I was okay with this. Hence the reason for the thread in the first place. I was looking for advice, not judgement.
2 - the original post stated that the honey bun was an exaggeration. For crying out loud, not everything is literal.
3 - my sugar has 10 calories per teaspoon. I use artificial because my blood sugar drops when I get too much real sugar.
4 - I also never said I eat clean. I only stated that I try to eat more clean than gas station confections with no substance other than trans fats and sugars and carbs.
I'm so done with this thread. I came looking for help and support for my diet and am, instead, being criticized for the very thing I pointed out as a problem, myself!
To those that DID offer advice and support and information on pros of weighing food, thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly and will try to get a good scale as soon as possible.
To those who have read this post and immediately want to give more backlash, have fun. I won't be coming back here to read it.
Have you had a chance to check out the list I linked to? I ask, because based on your sample menu from yesterday it looks like you haven't implemented any of the suggestions so far. Are there suggested foods that sound good to you? What kinds of things are you going to try next?
What about adding a couple of glasses of V8 or a smoothie for some micronutrients? It's often easier to drink calories than to eat them.5 -
I was thinking drinking the calories for a while, too. Like full-fat milk instead of water.2
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.
Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If she has not lost any weight in a month, she is not undereating. Eating more will make even more difficult to lose.2 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.
Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.
If this is true, it's alarming.2
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