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Finding time to Exercise
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.
My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.
My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.
You are arguing against things that no one here said. It gives the impression that you are lambasting us for things that were not said and did not read the discussion. There are 6 pages, but not of people saying "oh, I can't get in 30 minutes of exercise a day."1 -
Packerjohn wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.
My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.
This is certainly true. I do find it amusing that you never seen anyone complain that people spend too much time reading when they could be exercising.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Plenty of people have said they "don't have time" to exercise. I don't know if any of them said exactly how much time they don't have.0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Plenty of people have said they "don't have time" to exercise. I don't know if any of them said exactly how much time they don't have.
It's worth noting that it often takes more than 30 minutes to get 30 minutes of exercise. Depending on the activity you may have to travel, change clothing, shower, or other things before or after exercising.
I'm not suggesting it can't or shouldn't be done, but it does often take more than 30 minutes.6 -
I found I had plenty of time to watch TV, eat pizza, chips, and drink beer. I just switched that time to working out, and it's still less time than I spent watching TV.4
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NorthCascades wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Plenty of people have said they "don't have time" to exercise. I don't know if any of them said exactly how much time they don't have.
I actually don't think so. One poster was saying she didn't have time to exercise more than 60-90 minutes a day. I don't think one person said "no time to exercise" or "no time to do 30 minutes a day."1 -
Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.1 -
Peter Dinklage sums up 'Game of Thrones' in under a minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyJny1A-_I
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Mouse_Potato wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
I'm 5'3" and about 120 pounds and I regularly burn 2200-2300 calories a day. And that's being over 40 with a desk job.
Yep - 5'5, 135 pounds, size 6... can eat 2500 regularly and maintain... at 45 years old. MUSCLE is the key to a happy life eating
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:
That was a post in this thread, I don't think you can fairly say that's what started all of this. I mean, the debate was going on before this thread even existed (that's why it was split from the parent thread), and doesn't even appear until halfway down the first page of this one. Clearly this started before the post you found.0 -
Season one was impressively faithful to the book - give it a shot!xmichaelyx wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »armchairherpetologist wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.
I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.
My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.
It's all about prioritization.
The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/
Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.
How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.
Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.
People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.
I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.
And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.
LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.
My life isn't sad.
*blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol
I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.
The books were really fantastic, but there are over 1000 characters! I've never bothered with the series because so much has to be cut out that it doesn't seem worth it.
When I realize an author is getting crazy with characters as GRRM does, I just kind of tune them out until I see that they are sticking around. The character list is also helpful.
I can't even get through a whole work day without some form of exercise - if I don't move at lunch I'm tired and lethargic in the afternoon, and have the munchies.More on topic:
I don't get how people can commute for a long time, sit at a desk all day, and NOT work out. Lifting after working all day is the key to sanity and not feeling like crap.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
This is how I read it too - and remember that it was split from a discussion about an OP who was asking if he (I think) had damaged his metabolism because he believed he had to eat below a certain amount in order to lose. Others were chiming in that it seemed unlikely, and that there are even examples of petite women who eat more than that to lose weight, far more likely is that the OP of that other thread was underestimating calorie intake or overestimating calorie burns. When a few specific examples of petite females were given, then it was suggested that someone must be exercising 3 hours/day in order to achieve that high of a TDEE. I think the point is that not everyone with a high TDEE is exercising strenuously for hours upon end, some people (like myself) have worked hard to increase my NEAT activity AND my TDEE as a result. Examples of ways to incorporate day to day activity were provided and then it was suggested that posters were saying anyone not finding those ways to add in extra movement was spending all their time in front of a television (which no one said). Then we went off on the GOT tangent and I lost interest because I've never seen it and have no interest. THERE I SAID IT!!!!!4 -
MsHarryWinston wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »armchairherpetologist wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.
I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.
My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.
It's all about prioritization.
The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/
Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.
How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.
Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.
People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.
I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.
And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.
LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.
My life isn't sad.
*blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol
I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.
Hahaha yes there is sex but no it's not soft core porn. It's wonderfully complex, but I also read the books long before the tv show came out. But yeah, if you're not into historical fantasy then it's understandable it wouldn't be your thing. Like, I'm not a RealHousewives, or Kardashians type person so I've never watched those shows because I'm not into that kind of drama, but I know they're insanely popular, just not for me. *shrug*
I'm with you on all of this. Its also nice to have a show that others watch to talk about, since common shows are less common now than they used to be. (Also agree on Housewives, etc., except even though they are popular no one I know watches them -- they do watch some other shows I haven't gotten to yet, like Fargo and Saul).
Game of Thrones is what, 10 hours of a year, so I can't imagine it is anyone's reason for not exercising, although it personally would not be my choice for treadmill watching! ;-) We always have a Game of Thrones themed meal at least once during a season too -- there's a restaurant here that does one that I'd like to go to this coming year if they redo it, but I'm a geek. I read all the books on the L when going to work, so did it by multitasking!
I'm really not sure what the point is of the "Americans have a lot of screen time so have time to exercise." I haven't noticed one person in this discussion, not one, claiming that he or she lacks time to exercise the recommended amount per week. Didn't it start because someone said her TDEE was reasonably high for her size and then what struck me as judgy comments were made about the time she must spend on exercise.
That's so cool about the meal! For the show premier my husband and I made this huge date night of it and we cooked meat and potatoes (hearty food) and made proper mulled wine, and found chalices to drink it in while we watched episode 1. It was awesome, lol. When we first started dating he said to me "These are my favorite books so you have to read these books otherwise we are breaking up." Hahaha so I read them and ended up loving them. We are both HUGE book nerds so I found the threat hilarious. I haven't convinced him to read Outlander yet but he's agreed to watch the tv show.
I dated someone who made a similar threat about the Malazan Book of the Fallen. I broke up with him after Deadhouse Gates; I thought the bloodbath outside Aren was ridiculous.1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
This is how I read it too - and remember that it was split from a discussion about an OP who was asking if he (I think) had damaged his metabolism because he believed he had to eat below a certain amount in order to lose. Others were chiming in that it seemed unlikely, and that there are even examples of petite women who eat more than that to lose weight, far more likely is that the OP of that other thread was underestimating calorie intake or overestimating calorie burns. When a few specific examples of petite females were given, then it was suggested that someone must be exercising 3 hours/day in order to achieve that high of a TDEE. I think the point is that not everyone with a high TDEE is exercising strenuously for hours upon end, some people (like myself) have worked hard to increase my NEAT activity AND my TDEE as a result. Examples of ways to incorporate day to day activity were provided and then it was suggested that posters were saying anyone not finding those ways to add in extra movement was spending all their time in front of a television (which no one said). Then we went off on the GOT tangent and I lost interest because I've never seen it and have no interest. THERE I SAID IT!!!!!
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Mouse_Potato wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »Actually, if the before picture is you, you might be able to maintain on fewer calories than the calculators suggest. Studies disagree about whether preserving lean mass helps prevent the "reduced obese" phenomenon, but it does exist - people who lost a lot of weight are found to burn fewer calories than people of the same (current) weight who were never obese.
But THAT much? I'm 5'3", 113 pounds, and I lose on 2000 calories. I truly think, depending on how long he's been at this, he's being impatient or highly underestimating his food intake. I'm leaning toward the latter even though he says he weighs everything in grams. Do you have cheat days?
Do you run a daily half marathon to get that kind of burn?
I'm 5'3" and about 120 pounds and I regularly burn 2200-2300 calories a day. And that's being over 40 with a desk job.
Yep - 5'5, 135 pounds, size 6... can eat 2500 regularly and maintain... at 45 years old. MUSCLE is the key to a happy life eating
5'4", 140 pounds, size 4 and maintain around 2500 calories. 45 years as well.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.
My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.
This is certainly true. I do find it amusing that you never seen anyone complain that people spend too much time reading when they could be exercising.
Audio books for the win. I can listen while doing everything from vacuuming to running. I'm not proud of it, but I don't think I've read anything for pleasure in years.1 -
I think people underestimate the value of a 30 minute walk. Seriously, not all exercise has to be HIIT or get you sweaty. I'm not a fast walker myself, but I really enjoy strolling around town catching pokemon listening to a podcast or audio book.
Maybe you can't find time or money to go to a gym or buy specialized equipment, but unless there is something preventing you from walking, you can find time to exercise.3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
Well, the thread title is "Finding time to exercise" so while no one here is claiming they don't have 30 minutes to exercise, I think any post about finding time to exercise is indeed relevant
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kshama2001 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »armchairherpetologist wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »As the successful have stated - it's not about finding time, it's about making time.
I apply the Pareto Principle to this - devoting my energy to the 20% that truly matters and has impact. I intentionally neglect the 80% of lower priority issues that previously clogged up my time.
My wife and I are both working professionals with three active kids. She gets up at 4 am every day to hit the gym for an hour before work, then spend most of her day in a laboratory. I get up at 5 am and do calisthenics or take a quick run/bike, wake up the kids for 20 mins of calisthenics and get them ready for school. 45 min commute to an office setting, but I started up walking meetings for my team. We eat at our desks and use the lunch time for an afternoon workout. For teleconferences I go mobile and walk with an ear bud. My wife picks up the kids after school and starts the evening routine. I hit the gym on the way home and get my lifting in, then we all go for a walk/bike/whatever. Weekends involve hikes, climbing, swimming or something that gets us out of the house and moving.
It's all about prioritization.
The average American spends 50 non-work hours a week on screen time:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/health/americans-screen-time-nielsen/
Someone has to be a pretty special snowflake to not be able to find an hour a day to exercise.
How on earth does the "average American" manage that anyway? That's 7.5 hours a DAY of "screen time". Does the "average American" neither work or have any other hobbies or interests or obligations whatsoever? I expect imminent collapse of society if this study is accurate or as broad as portrayed.
Game of Thrones, Kim Kardashian's *kitten*, Honey Boo Boo, and, well, that's as much as I'm capable of naming off the top of my head, but you get the idea. These are the average American's hobbies and interests.
People ask me about television shows all the time and they think that I'm lying when I say I have no idea what they're talking about. My television "watching" is limited to the fact that I use it for background noise before I fall asleep. I can't imagine just sitting there staring at the the glowy box.
I get this too. All the time. Did you see the latest Game of Thrones? Um, no I'm less than 1/2 through season one. <blank stare> It's as if I said I'd never seen a tree.
And worst is that people keep giving us seasons of shows to watch as gifts (we actually had to buy a bigger DVD case just for all the DVDs we'll probably never watch) and then they constantly ask if I've watched it yet and seem irritated when we say no.
LOL, I haven't see the first 30 seconds of the first episode.
My life isn't sad.
*blink blink. Stares at you both like you've never seen a tree*
Yeah but... it's Game of friggin THRONES!
Lol, jk, but it really is an awesome show/book series. I mean come on... dragons! Lol
I've never seen a second of game of thrones, I heard it's more soft porn than anything, plus i'm not into medi- evil type shows/movies.
Hahaha yes there is sex but no it's not soft core porn. It's wonderfully complex, but I also read the books long before the tv show came out. But yeah, if you're not into historical fantasy then it's understandable it wouldn't be your thing. Like, I'm not a RealHousewives, or Kardashians type person so I've never watched those shows because I'm not into that kind of drama, but I know they're insanely popular, just not for me. *shrug*
I'm with you on all of this. Its also nice to have a show that others watch to talk about, since common shows are less common now than they used to be. (Also agree on Housewives, etc., except even though they are popular no one I know watches them -- they do watch some other shows I haven't gotten to yet, like Fargo and Saul).
Game of Thrones is what, 10 hours of a year, so I can't imagine it is anyone's reason for not exercising, although it personally would not be my choice for treadmill watching! ;-) We always have a Game of Thrones themed meal at least once during a season too -- there's a restaurant here that does one that I'd like to go to this coming year if they redo it, but I'm a geek. I read all the books on the L when going to work, so did it by multitasking!
I'm really not sure what the point is of the "Americans have a lot of screen time so have time to exercise." I haven't noticed one person in this discussion, not one, claiming that he or she lacks time to exercise the recommended amount per week. Didn't it start because someone said her TDEE was reasonably high for her size and then what struck me as judgy comments were made about the time she must spend on exercise.
That's so cool about the meal! For the show premier my husband and I made this huge date night of it and we cooked meat and potatoes (hearty food) and made proper mulled wine, and found chalices to drink it in while we watched episode 1. It was awesome, lol. When we first started dating he said to me "These are my favorite books so you have to read these books otherwise we are breaking up." Hahaha so I read them and ended up loving them. We are both HUGE book nerds so I found the threat hilarious. I haven't convinced him to read Outlander yet but he's agreed to watch the tv show.
I dated someone who made a similar threat about the Malazan Book of the Fallen. I broke up with him after Deadhouse Gates; I thought the bloodbath outside Aren was ridiculous.
Ha, good call! Yeah we would have had issues if he had terrible taste in books but I wasn't too worried as I had known him for years. Lol0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
This is how I read it too - and remember that it was split from a discussion about an OP who was asking if he (I think) had damaged his metabolism because he believed he had to eat below a certain amount in order to lose. Others were chiming in that it seemed unlikely, and that there are even examples of petite women who eat more than that to lose weight, far more likely is that the OP of that other thread was underestimating calorie intake or overestimating calorie burns. When a few specific examples of petite females were given, then it was suggested that someone must be exercising 3 hours/day in order to achieve that high of a TDEE. I think the point is that not everyone with a high TDEE is exercising strenuously for hours upon end, some people (like myself) have worked hard to increase my NEAT activity AND my TDEE as a result. Examples of ways to incorporate day to day activity were provided and then it was suggested that posters were saying anyone not finding those ways to add in extra movement was spending all their time in front of a television (which no one said). Then we went off on the GOT tangent and I lost interest because I've never seen it and have no interest. THERE I SAID IT!!!!!
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NorthCascades wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:
That was a post in this thread, I don't think you can fairly say that's what started all of this. I mean, the debate was going on before this thread even existed (that's why it was split from the parent thread), and doesn't even appear until halfway down the first page of this one. Clearly this started before the post you found.
That's the post that started the sub-discussion about having time to exercise. It was never about not having any time or not having 30 minutes.
Here's the other thread: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10557138/is-my-metabolism-that-screwed-up/p10 -
kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
Well, the thread title is "Finding time to exercise" so while no one here is claiming they don't have 30 minutes to exercise, I think any post about finding time to exercise is indeed relevant
I'm just getting tired of us being hectored about how we do too have time to exercise and are lazy television addicts when no one in the thread said they did not have time to exercise at all.
Saying you don't have time to exercise for 3 hours (although no one was saying anyone needed to do that either) is NOT the same thing as saying you have no time to exercise at all.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I'm just getting tired of us being hectored about how we do too have time to exercise and are lazy television addicts when no one in the thread said they did not have time to exercise at all.
If you didn't say you have no time to exercise then why do you feel included in whatever nebulous "us" it is that doesn't exercise? This all sounds like a strawman to me.8 -
I read the first few GOT books before I just lost interest (for a variety of reasons). I tried to watch the TV show, but for whatever reason I never got into it despite the fact I truly loved some of the cast. I'd rather spend my screen time writing than reading or watching these days, honestly.
As for making time to exercise, my work has been exceptionally helpful with that. I've been slowly working my way from couch potato to walking regularly with my next plan to get my 3 miles under 30 minutes as well as fitting in lifting and strength training along the way. I work in an area with actual miles marked out on running tracks, as well as many miles of walkable space. My boss also gives me about 60-90 minutes a day for walking/running as long as I use my lunch and breaks and don't get behind in my actual tasks/duties. That has made all the difference in the world, honestly. If I hadn't been able to start doing that at work, it would have taken a lot longer to establish the habit of doing it at home due to the tremendous inertia of habit and inclination. Now that I'm exercising regularly, I can't imagine not doing it, but in the beginning I was perfectly happy to lose weight solely through calorie deficit. That changed as I started to lose weight, and I got a step counter, and then things snowballed from there.
As another poster said, it's compellingly easy to make excuses, and the more barriers there are, the easier it is stick to those excuses to not implement both diet and exercise changes. I see both sides here, in that I do believe everyone would be able to figure out how to fit time in for exercise, but also that some people truly do feel it's impossible given their schedule/family/work/situation. Throw in all the nonsense in the fitness industry about how to exercise and all the endless myths and misinformation about fitness, and it can make the simple act of moving more seem almost insurmountable.
Still, that's another topic entirely.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
While this is technically true, there have been many posts in this thread deriding people for devoting any time to exercising and implying that it's impossible for most people to do anything like that. None of them specifically said "30 minutes" though.
Here are two examples from the first page, I didn't check the other 5 but remember more like them.How long does it take you to walk 8 miles a day and do your additional hour of exercise?heiliskrimsli wrote:I would say most people who work full time, particularly in office jobs, do not have that kind of time. Also, based on your math, walking for 75 minutes (4 miles per hour, five miles takes 75 minutes, not 60) each way to and from work means you're spending more like 2.5 hours walking to and from, so we're up to 3.5 hours per day.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, no one here is saying they cannot find time to do 30 minutes a day, are they?
Not sure, there are 6 pages of comments. However in virtually every study done on the topic, lack of time/busy schedule is on of the top reasons people give as to why they don't exercise.
My point is there is a lot of sedentary/exclusive screen time going on the in US and the not exercising is a choice, not a lack of time for many.
You are arguing against things that no one here said. It gives the impression that you are lambasting us for things that were not said and did not read the discussion. There are 6 pages, but not of people saying "oh, I can't get in 30 minutes of exercise a day."
Title of thread is "Finding Time to Exercise". My point/suggestion is Americans spend a lot of sedentary time in front of a screen. CDC recommends what works out to about 30 minutes a day of exercise for significant health benefits. Eliminating some screen time is a realistic/valid way to find time to exercise.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's the post that started this:heiliskrimsli wrote: »Lots of people don't have three hours a day to devote to exercise.... Do you consider your calorie burn typical and exercise for someone your size, or would you consider yourself unusual in that regard?
The poster who was being addressed had not actually said she exercised 3 hours a day, but as you can see it was not about people claiming they could not fit in 30 minutes. I think the poster speaking here would say she does exercise (30-90 minutes per day, if memory serves) and NOT that she cannot manage that.
Thus, to make this into a thread about people making excuses for not exercising at all is inaccurate and unfair, IMO.
Heh, and looking back I think only the first 2 pages were about how much time people exercise. The rest is about how Americans manage so much screen time.
Well, the thread title is "Finding time to exercise" so while no one here is claiming they don't have 30 minutes to exercise, I think any post about finding time to exercise is indeed relevant
I'm just getting tired of us being hectored about how we do too have time to exercise and are lazy television addicts when no one in the thread said they did not have time to exercise at all.
Saying you don't have time to exercise for 3 hours (although no one was saying anyone needed to do that either) is NOT the same thing as saying you have no time to exercise at all.
Unfortunately this is most likely the case for the collective "us" (typical US resident).2 -
The thing is your "exercise" doesn't have to come in one big block of time.1
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